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On 15/10/2021 at 18:50, ikcdab said:

Is there more advertising then usual? Going just by the page numbers, advertising is around 73 pages.

Actual editorial content is 70 pages or so.

On one hand this is good, as it shows that the hobby is vibrant with lots of business support. But I wonder how up to date these adverts can be when do much is done on line.

I do like very much that the adverts and editorial are completely segregated.

Ian C

Much more advertising and editorial content than previously.

The conclusion to be drawn is that publishing costs in these days of computer generated content & printing is so much less.

Going to the early 1960s where I have a few copies, you'll find 24 pages of editorial stuff and 20 of advertising . Only the very largest manufacturers had full page ads, then only one. Not like today, where the likes of Hattons, Rails of Sheffield etc have multiple pages, or even supplements.

 

I remember reading of Ernest F. Carter assembling the first issue of Model Railway Constructor and he knocked it off the table, managing to catch it, just in time - no mean feat, because he only had one arm. Because of the lateness, if it had hit the ground and the text flew everywhere, there wouldn't have been time to redo it.

 

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The above came from Ernest F. Carter himself. He wrote it in the MRC 1976 January issue, the occasion of issue 500. His is amongst a few letters from the Mr. Bigs of the hobby of the time.

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On 14/10/2021 at 21:33, Phil Parker said:

Maybe this is the future.

 

Practical Model Railways cover_500..jpg

Much better than the early days, where it would be father and son, with dad leaning across the layout and boy, with his pipe hanging out his mouth!

Same with exhibition photos.

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5 hours ago, Oldddudders said:

I tend to assume that MRJ caters for modellers with your sort of taste, rather than those mags at the bright and glossy end of the spectrum.

 

It does indeed. Which is why it is the only one I purchase regularly nowadays unless one of the mainstream magazines carries something of particular interest to me, such as a layout I have an involvement with, or an article specifically related to my own rather narrow interests.

 

I get to see the other magazines because I visit the home of somebody who has subscriptions and he always offers me a read of his. I can't remember the last time one took me more than a couple of minutes to skim through and I can't recall the last time I read a whole article that wasn't in MRJ.

 

I was asked to write an article for one of the mainstream magazines a year or two ago and I was told "Don't write lots of words. Our readers are more interested in pictures rather than actually reading and they don't have enough attention span to read a long article."

 

As somebody who enjoys reading, I found that rather sad.

 

I am quite happy to accept that my interests are at one extreme of the modelling spectrum, so the fact that the main magazines don't cater much for me says more about me than it does about the magazines!

 

 

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Well the postie must be reading this as the Modeller has just been delivered. I showed the front cover to Mrs HR and her reaction was "its just an advert isn't it?"  So there we have the reaction of the man in the street , so to say.

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5 hours ago, Mike Bellamy said:

 

 

The D Class quoted by Phil is hardly a mass produced model straight out of the box - it was in 7mm by Lee Marsh and only 60 were produced at a cost of £2850 each - information from Gauge O Guild Gazette - and the next advert three months later said they were sold out.

 

I was talking about the V2 rather than the D Class. However, my thoughts are the same. It is the difference between a model you can buy and it looks just like the one on the cover, or a model that an individual has done something to, which it makes it more personal and individual.

 

The D Class is a real beauty but it doesn't inspire me to have a go at producing something similar, whereas a kit built example by a fellow modeller might.

 

I could afford a Lee Marsh loco if I really wanted one. I would much rather have a loco that I have built myself. I don't expect everybody else to feel the same way. They are rather lovely after all!

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12 minutes ago, Hibelroad said:

Well the postie must be reading this as the Modeller has just been delivered. I showed the front cover to Mrs HR and her reaction was "its just an advert isn't it?"  So there we have the reaction of the man in the street , so to say.

 

That is how it came across to me too. My first thought was to wonder whether Bachmann had paid for the extra advertising (on the front cover too) or if Railway Modeller had just gifted it to them. There are times when I turn a page in a magazine and have to work out whether I am looking at an article or an advert.

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Worth a read the actual review of the V2 in the magazine , I will leave it as "interesting"  compared to what has been said by others , on the V2 thread herein.

The only thing of note on the front cover, is the Zebra Crossing on front of the Cab, the lining is that wide !!.

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2 hours ago, Hibelroad said:

I wish I could see this controversial cover, I think the postie is still reading my copy. However I did have a quick look at the digital copy and my reaction was that it looked like a Bachman’s advert. There may be past examples of this but I would much prefer a layout picture relevant to the main contents. 

 

 

https://pocketmags.com/railway-modeller-magazine?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIs9Hug9XM8wIVi5ntCh2dwwe7EAQYAiABEgKH6PD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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14 hours ago, Oldddudders said:

Not for nothing was Amateur Photographer known as "The weekly with the girls on the front"!

At one point in (I think) the early 80s, we used to refer to AP as the "Amateur Pornographer", some of the features, especially those of the work of David Hamilton, would now get you put on the sex offenders register.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hamilton_(photographer)

 

As for past Railway Modeller covers, before the layouts completely took over on the cover, there were layouts, young ladies admiring layouts and, at Christmas a happy bloke with a pipe and a hat from a cracker...

 

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On 14/10/2021 at 11:33, Phil Parker said:

Maybe this is the future.

 

Practical Model Railways cover_500..jpg

"And on next month's cover we feature rmweb's very own glamour puss, Phil Parker! Make sure you reserve YOUR copy at your local newsagents!" 

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I beg to differ with the comments that RM is aimed at the lower spectrum of modellers.

 

What magazine has just had a three part article on building a 7mm Connoisseur Models kit of a LMS 4F? Also had recent articles from Tony Wright on building DJH loco kits. Has had articles on building wagon kits. Also the only magazine that has regular articles with drawings, this month it's Highley Signal Box.

 

Previous magazine has GWR 15XX drawings. Slate wagon construction and scratchbuilding huts.

 

Maybe people should try looking at a recent issue rather than using outdated views from years ago.

 

 

 

Jason

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I just tried visiting the pocket mags website to view this allegedly controversial front cover and all the webpages have a grey sheen over them and you can't click on anything.  Is it just me?

 

EDIT - Scrub that, it's my Adblocker!!!

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