Ex LMS dining car M34M - what diagram?

[Roger Sunderland]

Please can somebody help here. I have a partial photo of an LMS 12 wheel dining car in a Liverpool/Newcastle service around 1963 . The caption says it is M34M but I 

have failed to find which diagram this is, having Googled it and trying to see if Comet do a kit for it. Anybody throw any light on it please?

[Moxy]

According to Jenkinson & Essery's LMS Coaches, no 34 was a Period 2 First class Kitchen/Dining car of LMS design, probably to either Diagram D1718 or D1810, but without knowing its pre 1932/3 number, it's difficult to narrow it down any further.

[Wickham Green too]

Diagram 1900 First Class Dining Car - according to the later - three-part - Jenkinson & Essery. ( Lot 865, Wolverton, 1935  - 'Period III' styling )

[Roger Sunderland]

Thanks guys. The picture shows it as a first class dining car(should have mentioned that) so I think the prize might go to Wickham Green too.

[Wickham Green too]

The prize - whatever it might be - should go to the late Mr.Jenkinson & Mr.Essery without whom we'd all be a lot less wise on LMS coaching stock matters.

Edited October 22, 2021 by Wickham Green too

[Roger Sunderland]

Indeed, you are correct. I don’t believe Comet do a diagram 1900 12 wheel dining car kit. Does anybody have any pictures, or a plan of the sides? Alternatively what are the differences between a diagram 1900 and say a 1901 or 1902 which Comet do do?

[Steamport Southport]

1 hour ago, Wickham Green too said:

The prize - whatever it might be - should go to the late Messrs Jenkinson & Essery without whom we'd all be a lot less wise on LMS coaching stock matters.

 

Bob Essery is still very much alive.

 

 

 

Jason

[Wickham Green too]

Sincere apologies.

 

Roger, there IS a drawing in the book .......... being First class, it's different from Dia.1901 - and having a kitchen, it's different from Dia.1902 ........................... try an e-mail to Phoenix Coaches ( sales@srg.org.uk )  -  Chris MIGHT still have Dia.1900 sides tucked away somewhere ( slim chance but worth asking ).

[Roger Sunderland]

Many thanks for this, I will give it a try.

[markw]

Comet M67 is the shallow sliding window vent version of the Restaurant First to d1857, otherwise the same as d1900. 

[Roger Sunderland]

Thanks Markw, that then is a possibility, I could probably live with that.