RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted December 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Butler Henderson said: It is with a jewellers piercing saw as I mentioned above - need to add the link wires Ah, now I see it from above, you can cut and leave two supports for each rail segment. Paul. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom F Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, PaulRhB said: Tom the ‘crazy track’ 12” rad point doesn’t have the rails split at the frog so the blue jumpers will cause a short unless you cut the rails where the orange line is too. I agree it’s a bit confusing as the points are from different eras design wise! Just powering the frog from the switch still has its advantages in reliability if you just leave off the blue jumpers. I’m a sucker for punishment and cut the rails very carefully with a small slitting disc, (others use a piercing saw), and protect the outer rails with card but you have to go careful so you don’t get too much heat and melt the chairs holding the rail Morning Paul Ill be honest, it’s still confusing me (I really I’m a bit thick with all this). I’m very tempted to leave the point as is and avoid any cutting. I would still like it powered and rely on point blades, so what should be wiring exactly? Just the green frog wire? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Yes if you keep the point as supplied then just a wire from whatever you use to switch the supply to the frog. The cut and new link method seeks to overcome the possibility of shorts arising between the inactive switch rail and stock rail as well as overcoming any issues arising from the active switch rail failing to make an electrical contact with the stock rail which Peco points as supplied rely on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom F Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, Butler Henderson said: Yes if you keep the point as supplied then just a wire from whatever you use to switch the supply to the frog. The cut and new link method seeks to overcome the possibility of shorts arising between the inactive switch rail and stock rail as well as overcoming any issues arising from the active switch rail failing to make an electrical contact with the stock rail which Peco points as supplied rely on Thanks Butler I just don’t want to get into a mess requiring buying new point work. The larger point seems easier to deal with. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom F Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, PaulRhB said: Tom the ‘crazy track’ 12” rad point doesn’t have the rails split at the frog so the blue jumpers will cause a short unless you cut the rails where the orange line is too. I agree it’s a bit confusing as the points are from different eras design wise! Just powering the frog from the switch still has its advantages in reliability if you just leave off the blue jumpers. I’m a sucker for punishment and cut the rails very carefully with a small slitting disc, (others use a piercing saw), and protect the outer rails with card but you have to go careful so you don’t get too much heat and melt the chairs holding the rail Ah I understand now. Right I’ll give that a go today! I’d forgot I’d need the cut in the track too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted December 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2021 If the rail seems loose after cutting I just drop a bit of thin superglue in off a cocktail stick and it all goes solid. It is fiddly but it just improves reliability that extra little bit on a show layout and means it usually works first time even after months in store. Nothing worse than stress the morning of a show 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom F Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) Thanks for all the feedback and advice. It’s greatly appreciated. Some tweaks to the track plan now utilising a Y point which works better. Line to the goods shed bearing off to the left, to the right at an angle, the coal line. I was very much inspired by the angle of the coal line at Beddgellert on the old Welsh Highland I am now thinking ahead to wiring the entire layout (I’ve just about got my head around the points). The layout will be analogue. I’ll need three isolating sections, both lines making up the loop and the sidings. Both sidings can be one isolating section. I’ve never done isolating sections, so this will require some help. Here is the plan: Edited December 31, 2021 by Tom F 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom F Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 Start the new year with how you mean to go on…..with trains Happy New Year! 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NeilHB Posted January 1, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2022 An excellent choice of railway to start the new year off with Tom! My last visit was October 2019, so I really must make amends and get there again this year for a trip. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player of trains Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 I can't believe I let this pass me by Mr Tom, Scaca Fell is frankly a piece of art not just a model so I eagerly await what you produce for Ballamoddy with such rugged landscape in that part of the Reverend's world, same goes for the locos of a line about to hit hard times which you'll no doubt weather beautifully. Watching with interest, Alec 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom F Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 Some photos from today's lovely trip up the Eskdale valley. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 1, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Tom F said: Some photos from today's lovely trip up the Eskdale valley. Now that would make a nice model... (one of my might-but-probably-never-will projects is Hythe, RH&DR, in the early 1960s when we first visited it). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDM34046 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Hi Tom! Considering the calibre of modelling on your last project I’m very much looking forward to the progress on this new one. I may be a bit late to the party but I might offer my own findings. I used the wire-in-tube method on my layout and found it very difficult to find the right switches. In the end I settled with Elaine’s Emporium for their slide switches. Jewellery wire was threaded through small plastic tubing and into the point. The excess was drilled through the switch and then wrapped around the switch. It looks crude but having since done the scenics and foliage it looks fine. Wiring was simply done, as per the wiring diagrams in this thread, made to change the polarity of the frog and hey presto, it worked. It’s great to see more modeller’s using this method, as when I initially did some research, I couldn’t find many methods of ways to do it! Sorry for the long post! Happy Modelling! And New Year! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom F Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 13 hours ago, LDM34046 said: Hi Tom! Considering the calibre of modelling on your last project I’m very much looking forward to the progress on this new one. I may be a bit late to the party but I might offer my own findings. I used the wire-in-tube method on my layout and found it very difficult to find the right switches. In the end I settled with Elaine’s Emporium for their slide switches. Jewellery wire was threaded through small plastic tubing and into the point. The excess was drilled through the switch and then wrapped around the switch. It looks crude but having since done the scenics and foliage it looks fine. Wiring was simply done, as per the wiring diagrams in this thread, made to change the polarity of the frog and hey presto, it worked. It’s great to see more modeller’s using this method, as when I initially did some research, I couldn’t find many methods of ways to do it! Sorry for the long post! Happy Modelling! And New Year! That's really useful! Yes thank you. I've ordered some wire from Eileens (the switches look very similar to the ones I've ordered from amazon, so hopefully we should be ok). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted January 4, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2022 Another lovely project! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom F Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) Brake van brigade on this very cold January morning! Just about ready for weathering. Edited January 5, 2022 by Tom F 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom F Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 More MSR stock branding this evening. Touch of homage to the WHR van fleet with some of the branding. Hope to weather them this weekend. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NeilHB Posted January 8, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2022 Lovely work Tom, they look very good. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom F Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 54 minutes ago, NeilHB said: Lovely work Tom, they look very good. Thanks Neil. It is making me chuckle how much smaller 'Cora' is than the Glyn Valley and Welsh Highland van! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NeilHB Posted January 8, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2022 10 hours ago, Tom F said: Thanks Neil. It is making me chuckle how much smaller 'Cora' is than the Glyn Valley and Welsh Highland van! I’d never realised before just how much of a size difference there is between them - ‘Cora’ really is dainty! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom F Posted January 8, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2022 Tonight I've cut the lengths of track on Ballamoddey. It is starting to feel like a real place. I'm particular pleased with the curving nature of the main line running through the station. I need to make a start thinking about wiring (groan). 24 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 That really does give a sense of open space. Oh the joys of wiring.... Never mind, you've got the interesting part after that. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JustinDean Posted January 9, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2022 Have you made any progress with your point actuation and wiring yet @Tom F? Jay 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom F Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, JustinDean said: Have you made any progress with your point actuation and wiring yet @Tom F? Jay My friend @Quarryscapes is in the process of making me a wiring diagram for the layout. I have the wire in a tube on order from Eileen's Emporium but it hasn't arrived yet. I'm probably going to leave the point wiring until next weekend. My aim this week on an evening, is to make a start adding the greenwich couplings to the wagon stock I've made. I really also need to make a start on putting together loco 'No.4' too in the next few weeks. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JustinDean Posted January 9, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2022 I know how daunting some of these tasks are so good to hear you have some help to hand! Looking forward to seeing your progress. Jay 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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