Moderators AY Mod Posted January 6, 2022 Moderators Share Posted January 6, 2022 New tooling Loriot Liverpool and Manchester wagons Reliveries 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Nice selection of intermodal wagons, boxes and tanks. £25 for a coalfish is good value too, even better in the bundle of 3 wagons. Good timing for the Accurascale version coming soon too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post NHY 581 Posted January 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2022 Like the look of the L&MR Sheep wagon. 1 1 1 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottrains29 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, KDG said: Nice selection of intermodal wagons, boxes and tanks. £25 for a coalfish is good value too, even better in the bundle of 3 wagons. Good timing for the Accurascale version coming soon too. Looks like Hornby are using their older, taller MHA bodies with the wider footsteps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2022 Hmm, I wonder if they have any original ideas of their own for new tooling wagons about from stuff that was running in the 1830s? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 This looks like a reaction to accurascale releases. Priced just below theirs. Thanks Hornby but no thanks. 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, scottrains29 said: Looks like Hornby are using their older, taller MHA bodies with the wider footsteps. You may be right. Not so good then. Why would they do that when they have the proper tooling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dan Bennett Posted January 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2022 Ridiculous that they think they can charge over £30 for the VDA and Ferryvans with that prehistoric underframe 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottrains29 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, KDG said: You may be right. Not so good then. Why would they do that when they have the proper tooling? I'm hoping it's just the image that's wrong. The price is still a bit steep. A 3 pack is £72.99 for the old Hornby model vs £74.95 for the latest Accurascale version (less 10% if you buy 2+). Edited January 10, 2022 by scottrains29 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, scottrains29 said: I'm hoping it's just the image that's wrong. The price is still a bit steep. A 3 pack is £72.99 for the old Hornby model vs £74.99 for the latest Accurascale version (less 10% if you buy 2+). Hope so. Remember 72.99 is the rrp. The discounters will sell for less... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted January 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2022 I remember ‘“Bertie the Brakevan” from my teenage TrainSpotting days around Chester, happy to see this, I’ll definitely have one of these! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) The L&M wagons are based on the paintings of the L&MR, but I don't even think they were for coal. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/POSTCARD-LIVERPOOL-MANCHESTER-RAILWAY-GOODS-CARRIAGES-/192879760391 Jason Edited January 10, 2022 by Steamport Southport Mistake. Altered post to make it more relevant. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Nothing like the Accurascale wagons though. They're NE Chaldrons. These are based on the paintings of the L&MR and I don't even think they were for coal. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/POSTCARD-LIVERPOOL-MANCHESTER-RAILWAY-GOODS-CARRIAGES-/192879760391 Jason Cheesy was referring to the MHA coalfish wagons as I understand it. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted January 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dan Bennett said: Ridiculous that they think they can charge over £30 for the VDA and Ferryvans with that prehistoric underframe Probably less expensive than Bachmann VDA which might be the critical factor here . But is that the Lima GUV at £48.49 . Who would have thought that back in the early 80s . Just noticed same price as the recently developed Southern GUV . Edited January 10, 2022 by Legend 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Ooops. Sorry. Haven't been following the more "modern" Accurascale releases. EWS is a bit too modern for me, Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasatcopthorne Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I wonder where Hornby got their idea for the VIX van from. Elbow Lane? Dave. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestTom Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 The LMR wagons have my interest, although I must admit that I find myself wondering how difficult it would be to bash the coal wagons from Dapol Rocket kits. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, cheesysmith said: This looks like a reaction to accurascale releases. Priced just below theirs. Thanks Hornby but no thanks. I would excuse anyone for thinking that Hornby do not know Accurascale exist to be frank. The Hornby 2022 new tooled wagons - a Loriot, maybe, and a load of prehistoric L&M vehicles which I definitely won't buy, whereas in 2021 I bought twelve AS wagons, and would buy many more if I could afford it. The Hornby TV series of documentaries were all about Hornby getting back into profitability, but they do not seem to have grasped anything from their industry competitors about making money from models. It is all about glossy pacifics, pretty passenger coaches and a couple of oddball wagons of novelty interest. Simple example of my own. I don't particularly want a Loriot although I have a Cambrian kit. I do however want some transition era gunpoweder vans, so Rapido got the order - simples. Come on Simon, it is not all about gimmicks like real steam, nether is it exclusively about big wheeler glossy pacifics. Look around and see what you competitors are producing. . 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2022 3 hours ago, NHY 581 said: Like the look of the L&MR Sheep wagon. It is to cart you off to market. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 In the main, same old same old - ancient 20th Century models at 21st Century prices. Wagons sell in multiples, and yet they still don't have decent, accurate models of the most basic range of wagons. Why do they think that the wagon kit market exists - because the RTR sector won't invest in the most basic of wagon provision. Pathetic! CJI. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
90164 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 The LMS conflat is nothing like the real thing, which were highly distinctive. What you've got is a GWR/BR wagon masquerading as an LMS wagon. Imagine if the released a Hall but labelled it as a Black Five? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, 90164 said: Imagine if the released a Hall but labelled it as a Black Five? They would - if they thought that they could get away with it !! Hornby don't care about authenticity in wagons - they figure that they've got enough of a market with the 'if it's got a wheel at each corner I don't really care' brigade. CJI. 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 the Loriot Y WELTROL WP ? There were only two of them and unlike other GWR wagons https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrloriotlowmac/ecd70e6b One of the VDA has a fictitous number, the other https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brvda/ed50e07f 31 minutes ago, 90164 said: The LMS conflat is nothing like the real thing, which were highly distinctive. What you've got is a GWR/BR wagon masquerading as an LMS wagon. Imagine if the released a Hall but labelled it as a Black Five? Nor is it anything like a BR Conflat with that running number - by then they had clasp brake rigging! Hasn't Bertie been in their range before? https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsbrakevan/e41aa0c8 Just pleased I model in 7mm. Paul 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 35 minutes ago, 90164 said: The LMS conflat is nothing like the real thing, which were highly distinctive. What you've got is a GWR/BR wagon masquerading as an LMS wagon. Imagine if the released a Hall but labelled it as a Black Five? I wonder if you've looked at the same image as me. The illustration of the BR/GWR Conflat A shows the distinctive chain pocket, and a continuous curb-rail surrounding the floor. The LMS one has no chain pockets, and had a gap in the curb-rail, allowing access to the side doors of the container. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Fat Controller said: I wonder if you've looked at the same image as me. The illustration of the BR/GWR Conflat A shows the distinctive chain pocket, and a continuous curb-rail surrounding the floor. The LMS one has no chain pockets, and had a gap in the curb-rail, allowing access to the side doors of the container. That's what the anonymous 90164 was getting at, its wrong and he said so. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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