Moderators AY Mod Posted January 13, 2022 Author Moderators Share Posted January 13, 2022 21 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: I doubt, for example, that the model railway magazines will be discussing the issue. As we were finalising the magazine at the end of last week only a passing reference was made rather than risk the chance that something changed between then and distribution of the mag. 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chris116 Posted January 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, AY Mod said: As we were finalising the magazine at the end of last week only a passing reference was made rather than risk the chance that something changed between then and distribution of the mag. A wise move given that there are so many possible outcomes to this situation. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) There's nothing to stop Hornby producing a replica of the Lion, the Loiret or the toad brake van. But I can't see how they can get away making a model of Dan's coach without the express permission of Studio Canal. Edited January 13, 2022 by PhilJ W 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, wombatofludham said: "Titgate" is getting traction across social media and not in a positive way from Hornby's perspective. Lets see if the tabloids get hold of it. What will the headlines be? "Titgate... Trouble int't toy train land" "Colonial upstarts terrorise traditional historic British toy train company" "Canadian Thunderbolt destroys Margate" "Hornby get their tracks crossed" There has to be better than that. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Porcy Mane said: There has to be better than that. Your talking about the British tabloids here. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyJay Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 I would have thought that the tabloids have got bigger fish to fry right now. It might make the 'and finally' slot. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 13, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, wombatofludham said: It is cropping up in other social media outlets, it even became the subject of a meme on Twitter which was retweeted by Nigel Harris. This is what I alluded to: this forum is but one subset of the model railway social media network. We're discussing it ad nauseam but it's out there on other platforms. Frankly the model railway magazines not discussing it won't be an issue. "Titgate" is getting traction across social media and not in a positive way from Hornby's perspective. And if it gets to the financial pages of any dailies or even to shore tipster sites ... Especially if Hornby are set on being less than supportive of their retailers. Hornby's share price rose 1.5p (to 57p) between close of trading on Friday and cose of trading on Monday, on Tuesday it fell 4p but recovered back to 55p on Wednesday. The question now is whether it can hold or whether it will follow what happened a year ago when a period of falling price followed the high around new range release date? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
banburysaint Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 51 minutes ago, Porcy Mane said: Lets see if the tabloids get hold of it. What will the headlines be? "Titgate... Trouble int't toy train land" "Colonial upstarts terrorise traditional historic British toy train company" "Canadian Thunderbolt destroys Margate" "Hornby get their tracks crossed" There has to be better than that. Its all gone Tits Up? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 13, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: a model of Sam's coach without the express permission of Studio Canal. Dan’s coach not Sam, I think Sam would fall over in delight if they modelled a coach for him Sorry Phil, too good to miss Edited January 13, 2022 by PaulRhB 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 33 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: Your talking about the British tabloids here. Do they have tabloids in Canada? Ont-ils des tabloïds au Canada? 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, banburysaint said: Its all gone Tits Up? Hornby, Rapido. Bust up over Titfield! Edited January 13, 2022 by Porcy Mane 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2022 38 minutes ago, PaulRhB said: Dan’s coach not Sam, I think Sam would fall over in delight if they modelled a coach for him Sorry Phil, too good to miss Suitably amended, I must have had a brainfart. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 I think everyone is overestimating our papers. If we get anything more imaginative than the lines they have used before repeatedly I will be shocked. It will be "Hornby's plans derailed/hit the buffers". Incidentally I googled Titgate and let me just say Hornby did not feature in the results... 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) Seeing how the press looks these days it might be more like: "Hornby take's back control from foriegners over British film rights!" "Boris give's Hornby control of Titfield at Downing street party." And that is without using national insults. Edited January 13, 2022 by JSpencer 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Titgate? Margate? Which one is it to be? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 hours ago, PaulRhB said: Dan’s coach not Sam, I think Sam would fall over in delight if they modelled a coach for him Sorry Phil, too good to miss Sam's the vicar. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welchester Posted January 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Steamport Southport said: Sam's the vicar. Olly's the bishop. Bob's your uncle. Fanny's your aunt. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted January 13, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, JSpencer said: Seeing how the press looks these days it might be more like: "Hornby take's back control from foriegners over British film rights!" "Boris give's Hornby control of Titfield at Downing street party." And that is without using national insults. Giant French company initiates legal action against a small British toy company over an old British film to protect foreign upstart? The headlines will write themselves...... Edited January 14, 2022 by ruggedpeak erroneous reference removed 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aire Head Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 34 minutes ago, stewartingram said: Titgate? Margate? Which one is it to be? The Margate what though? The Margate Mugging? The Margate Misappropriation? The Margate Mimicry? The Margate Mimeograph? 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 58 minutes ago, ruggedpeak said: Giant French company initiates legal action against a small British toy company over an old British black and white film to protect foreign upstart? The headlines will write themselves...... Colour.... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted January 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) On 13/01/2022 at 21:33, RJS1977 said: Colour.... Since when has the truth been important when there is a chance to paint jonney foreigner (particularly the French / Europeans) in a bad light in right wing papers. Edited January 17, 2022 by phil-b259 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 4 hours ago, PhilJ W said: There's nothing to stop Hornby producing a replica of the Lion, the Loiret or the toad brake van. But I can't see how they can get away making a model of Dan's coach without the express permission of Studio Canal. Provided the coach isn't too accurate (e.g. sticking a chimney on the roof of one of their 'generic' coach bodies), and is marketed as 'grounded coach body' there would be no issue. The issue really is the use of the 'Titfield Thunderbolt' name in the marketing. [Oxford Diecast have previously released Morse's Jag (246RPA) and Bond's DB5 (BMT416A) in their range, but have not marketed them as 'Inspector Morse' or 'James Bond' and as far as I am aware have not been subject to any legal action.] As another thought, a 14XX, W&U coach and Toad could legitimately be released as a 'Dad's Army' set as stock footage from The Titfield Thunderbolt was used in at least two episodes of Dad's Army! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted January 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2022 30 minutes ago, RJS1977 said: As another thought, a 14XX, W&U coach and Toad could legitimately be released as a 'Dad's Army' set as stock footage from The Titfield Thunderbolt was used in at least two episodes of Dad's Army! It doesn't work like that. Any TT clips in D's A will have been licenced and still remain property of Studio Canal. If that were not the case Hornby could simply say their model is a copy of Rapido's. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, Andy Hayter said: It doesn't work like that. Any TT clips in D's A will have been licenced and still remain property of Studio Canal. If that were not the case Hornby could simply say their model is a copy of Rapido's. As far as I'm aware, the clips used in Dad's Army are of the 14XX and the W&U coach not Thunderbolt. I haven't seen them for many years but IIRC they were out-takes, so probably obtained via John Huntley's archive and long before S-C acquired the rights to the movie. (CJL) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted January 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2022 13 hours ago, PhilJ W said: I presume Hornby know who they are taking on https://www.studiocanal.co.uk/ The third largest film distribution company in the world. Which in itself is owned by Vivendi which has a turnover in €10s of billions and had assets of €38 billion in 2020 It spends most of it's time in acquisitions. "Plucky British minnow, takes on huge voracious Euroshark" 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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