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Greyscroft Mine – Cleveland Ironstone in 1955.

Modelled in 4mm scale, EM gauge.

The history.

Greyscroft Mine is based on the shaft mines of the Cleveland Main seam in the Skelton – Brotton – Kilton area as it may have been towards the end of the mining era in 1955. Mining started at Eston mine in 1850 and continued in the area until North Skelton mine closed in 1964. More than 50 mines were opened and closed in the intervening years. Part of Loftus mine has been converted into the Tom Leonard Mining Museum

The layout.

Work started in 2006 and progressed steadily since then and it had its first outing at the Shipley show in September 2009.

The baseboards, built from 6mm ply, the sides and ends are beams a la Barry Norman with a single 6mm top, are arranged in an arc with the viewer in the ‘centre’ with the layout curving around them. Although this gives a good effect, it made baseboard construction difficult and transporting the layout a nightmare, each board has had to have its own box, this way does keep the scenery safe. The layout is 18'6" long and the boards are 2' wide, the whole layout works out at about 3'6" wide with the arc. The plan below is straight and not to scale.

A few photos of how the layout looks now, I'll post some of the earlier construction later.

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J72 68690 propels loaded ironstone hoppers into the loop.
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Ivatt 4MT 43074 passes behind Greyscroft mill as it aproaches Greyscroft station.
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Loaded ironstone hoppers. Loaded with real Cleveland ironstone.
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68690 removes loaded hoppers.
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80118, one of Whitby's finest behind the mill, Bolckow street is in the background.
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Looks like plenty of operating interest, would love to hear more about the PW side of the layout. Have been staining ply sleepers in preparation for a small experimental diarama, tales of your experiences would be good.

Cheers

Martin

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Thanks for the comments.

 

Fursty, the PW is mostly C&L, plain is flexitrack, point timbers are a mixture of C&L plastic and EMGS ply. all chairs are C&L. check out my Felton Lane thread (link in sig) for a detailed build of the points.

 

Signalmaintainer, be patient!!

 

Mike, the winding gear has turned with the gizmo attached, what is the maximum voltage it will take? it needs a bit more than the batteries give now it is turning the whole thing. The problem I have now is the knot jumping out, I will have to make the groove in the wheels a bit deeper.

 

Downcast shaft and winding gear. The winding engine house is a shortened version of North Skelton, the rest is based on bits from other mines.

Mike (49395) has made me an electronic gizmo to run the winding gear, it should run for 30 seconds, stop and wait for about 5 then reverse for 30 seconds and so on. I don't know how, ask him nicely and he might explain it.

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Boiller house and boilers are based on photos of the ones that were at Lumpsey Mine (Brotton). The water tank is two Wills kits.

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Mine workshops are a model of the old stable block at work. Much work to complete here.

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Mike, the winding gear has turned with the gizmo attached, what is the maximum voltage it will take? it needs a bit more than the batteries give now it is turning the whole thing. The problem I have now is the knot jumping out, I will have to make the groove in the wheels a bit deeper.

 

 

 

It should be able to easily cope with anything up to 12V, the chips are made to cope with a bit more than that.

 

12V might be a bit fast though, the transistors that run the motor drop about 1.5V so the motor is using 3V off a 4.5V supply.

 

I'm glad to hear it works!

 

Mike

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Back to the beginning...

 

A couple of photos from late 2006 showing the first three boards completed and the top for board 4 resting on top of the bin/chair combo for marking out where the cut outs for the stream will be. The second photo shows the part completed board 4, this also shows baseboard construction.

 

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Back to the present day...

 

The English countryside in early summer...

 

Board 5 is the 'Whitby' end fiddleyard, the front of this board is scenic to hide the yard from view. The track disapears beneath a road bridge, there is a junction to the front and the road to Brotton runs along the front of the board, the road to Skelton passes off the front edge.

 

The basic scenery was completed early last year and I have now started to detail it to look like it is early summer (June). The hedgerows have had Elder, Dog Rose and Honeysuckle added with the verges having Cow Parsley, Buttercups, Red Campion and immature Rosebay Willowherb.

 

The white flowers are 'Flower Soft' (cadged from my Mum!) the fine yellow for the buttercups is the residue from the bottom of a bag of Woodland scenics (WS) yellow flowers, the other colours are Greenscene. The tall plants (Cow Parsley and Rosebay Willowherb) are made from brush bristles sprayed with 'Craft Mount' and rolled in WS scatter. The flowers were added later by spraying a little glue onto the ends and dipping them into the flower material. They were then stuck into the grass with Evostick.

 

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Next I have made and added some Foxgloves to the railway cutting beside the bridge. These were made the same way as the tall plants but were dipped in the red Greenscene flowers with no green, I tried to only put them on one side of the stem but with limited success.

 

Let me know what you all think.

 

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Of course all the time I was working on this I had an audience!biggrin.gif

 

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Your scenics look really good. Nice to see someone actually trying to emulate real-life flowers etc. The shiny cars are a nice touch as well. Not everything has to be weathered to within an inch of its life.

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A few photos of the central section of GM. There is still a lot of work to do on the layout, quite a lot of fencing and the terrace (Bolckow Street) needs a new roof (the Metcalfe one was put on as I ran out of time) and all sorts of bits and pieces still need to be added.

 

J26 65763 arrives with empty hoppers as 80118 aproaches from Whitby with a passenger train.

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J26 65763.

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80118.

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A quiet moment in Greyscroft goods yard.

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80118 gets the board with a train bound for Whitby.

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Having deposited it's train of empty hoppers, 65763 waits for J72 68690 to shunt a loaded train.

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Middlesbrough shed's Ivatt 4MT 43074 shunts Greyscroft goods yard.

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43074 gets ready to depart.

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Later in the day 80118 crosses Grey beck with another train from Whitby.

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Lunch time Quoits practice in full swing.

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Hi Paul I have just seen this thread - pointed at it from the Felton Lane topic. The only thing I can say is superb!!

 

It is very much my neck of the woods - My cottage is one of the former ore miners cottages in Brotton. I have wandered over the footpath to the site of the Lumpsey mine a few times but I have never seen any pictures of it in operation.

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Hi Paul I have just seen this thread - pointed at it from the Felton Lane topic. The only thing I can say is superb!!

 

It is very much my neck of the woods - My cottage is one of the former ore miners cottages in Brotton. I have wandered over the footpath to the site of the Lumpsey mine a few times but I have never seen any pictures of it in operation.

 

 

Glad you like it Rob.

 

Lumpsey is a wonderful place to wander round, luckily there is, as you say, a footpath going right through middle, there is also the base of a signal cabin (Lingdale Junction?) out towards Kilton and of course there is the Boulby trains passing by if you like your locos green and diesely.

 

When you are next in the area pop into The Guisborough Bookshop, they have a range of booklets profiling the Cleveland mines, most written by Simon Chapman, the local expert (and NYMR S&T man). The one you want is 'Lumpsey Mine - Flower of Cleveland' (although you will be tempted by many more).

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It's been a while since I did any work on GM but as ExpoEM North is approaching fast I thought some jobs ought to be completed. First a few track problems have been sorted out with a couple more still to do.

 

On the scenic side I've wanted to add a fence along the wall behind the mill. The major problem has been finding some suitable 'cast iron' stanchions, but a few weeks ago I saw an advert for some from Ratio, I think ones that had previously only been in their kits, so a couple of packs were ordered form DRM and tonight I have started to fit them. 0.8mm holes were drilled at 20mm centres and the stanchions glued in with Evo Stik. The wires have been added, the ends were bent around a needle file handle. Although these stanchions aren't strictly correct for NER fencing, they look ok to me.

 

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This is the longest section, using a whole pack of 20 stanchions.

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Hi there.

 

Your layout certainly has atmosphere particulary with the lunch time quoits session.

 

Those railings look brilliant and exactly what we want for our layout so an order will be going in for those in due course.

 

Can you please tell me what you used for the wall that the railings are mounted on?

 

Regards

 

David

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Thanks for the comments Guys.

 

Danemouth - The track and ballast (Woodland scenics black cinders) was given a light spray with Railmatch 'Frame dirt', just enough to cover the sleepers. It needs a bit more detailed weathering sometime.

 

DJH584 - The wall is Wills stone with coping stones made from mounting board. unfortunatly from this angle, the light is from the right, the joints can be seen. these are not so visible with the mill in place and the layout lights on.

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More work on the railings, they have now been painted black and weathered with dry-brushed Humbrol 62 (leather) for rust. I'm very happy with the results.

 

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One of the shorter lengths.

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I've had some bee skeps (Unit Models resin castings) at the top of the mill field for some time now. I've never been completely happy with them, they looked too tall and were 'weathered' black over the straw colour when they should be a clean straw colour. so tonight I took them off and cut about 1.5mm off the bottom and mounted them on a base and painted them with Humbrol 63, they have now been re-fitted back in the top of the mill field. The black dots are air holes in the castings and really need filling.

 

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Station building.

 

The station building has been somewhere near complete for some time now, all that needed to be done was to make the chimneys, fit guttering & downpipes and make and fit some pillars to support the veranda.

 

Come and see us at ExpoEM North this weekend.

 

The chimneys are made from blocks of wood with Metcalf brick and plasticard for the stone caps. The pots are whitemetal castings, possibly Langley.

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The veranda pillars are two sizes of brass tubes soldered together, the top one with a cutout to fit behind the roof.

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The finished station building. The guttering is Wills.

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As Jamie has posted a photo of himself with the cup he won with Culreoch I thought I would post a link to the EMGS website where there is a photo of yours truly being presented with the best layout trophy et ExpoEM North. Click on ExpoEM events 2010 and scroll down.

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