Peterborough North

[FarrMan]

I flirted with Perth, so to speak, but its a bit too big for the space I have available!

 

I’m wondering about a smaller 2/3 platform with goods yard - any suggestions?

Not looked at it in detail, but possibly Gleneagles?

[Oldddudders]

Gleneagles?

Scotland’s only 5-star hotel, so I was told decades ago.

[great northern]

That first picture I wouldn't bother, but would retain the dull blue-grey background and using a clone brush "spread" it around to all areas so the whole BG becomes a blueish overcast.

 

The second one is more fiddley but a similar result could be obtained by clone-painting from a photo of an overcast sky.

 

I imagine the process you use in PS is more automatic and fast, my hand-painting methods can require up to an hour per photo so may not be an option for everyone.

 I only know the basics of a basic programme Martin, and you are spot on, I don't want to spend an hour on a single photo, so when I look at things like this, I don't bother trying. I bin quite a lot actually. I suppose I should use flash when it is as dark as it always is at present, but I've never got on with it.

[great northern]

I flirted with Perth, so to speak, but its a bit too big for the space I have available!

 

I’m wondering about a smaller 2/3 platform with goods yard - any suggestions?

 That's the problem Peter, the really interesting places are far too big in most cases. I'm very lucky that the basics of PN are really quite compressed. Have you tried making a list as I did before I started on this? I started with "must haves", and if a location didn't allow for them that was that. I always felt that your previous layout was over ambitious for one man to either build or operate, so I'm relieved that you've lowered your sights a bit.

 

I reckon a fairly compact junction station is a good idea, as quite a lot of trains should stop there, and branch trains give a bit more interest. I don't know anywhere near enough about that part of Scotland to be able to suggest something that might be suitable though.

[St Enodoc]

Indeed I was, but remembering the A4 swan song and discovering that there were A3, A2 and A1 classes visiting Ferryhill in th e mid ‘60s makes me rethink

 

I could also squeeze in my extensive diesel collection!

An Aberdonian mate in New Zealand has just started a retirement project to build a 00 model of Ferryhilll shed in the 1960s. If you do decide to go that way I could put you in touch.

[St Enodoc]

Scotland’s only 5-star hotel, so I was told decades ago.

I believe that was the case before privatisation.

[Martin S-C]

 I only know the basics of a basic programme Martin, and you are spot on, I don't want to spend an hour on a single photo, so when I look at things like this, I don't bother trying. I bin quite a lot actually. I suppose I should use flash when it is as dark as it always is at present, but I've never got on with it.

Worth keeping Gilbert?

 

 

I haven't had a go with the other one as the signals make it pretty tricky.

[bigwordsmith]

 That's the problem Peter, the really interesting places are far too big in most cases. I'm very lucky that the basics of PN are really quite compressed. Have you tried making a list as I did before I started on this? I started with "must haves", and if a location didn't allow for them that was that. I always felt that your previous layout was over ambitious for one man to either build or operate, so I'm relieved that you've lowered your sights a bit.

 

I reckon a fairly compact junction station is a good idea, as quite a lot of trains should stop there, and branch trains give a bit more interest. I don't know anywhere near enough about that part of Scotland to be able to suggest something that might be suitable though.

 

 

Thanks Gilbert

You are more than welcome to say “I told you so.” It would be completely appropriate!

 

It was only when I got to the point of sitting looking at the potential wiring nightmare that was going to be Waverley east after doing the main lines, fiddle yard, Loco shed, carriage sidings, three double slips and Riccarton station, that I realised just how big an undertaking I had set out to achieve.

 

That said, he did all work, which is I suppose something to be pleased with.

 

The list is definitely taking shape, I know that I want to be able to do a little bit of shunting in a station, but   not a huge amount, and I do enjoy sitting back to watch the trains roll by, as well as doing a bit of fiddling around in the engine shed, and fiddle yard

 

The other challenge, which will probably be even bigger is to work out what pieces out of the 500+ items of stock that I possess I will actually want to use.

 

Because it doesn’t help that I’ve just acquired a Tango, and a B12!

 

I’ll stop hijacking the thread, and thank you for your indulgence and advice, both of which are much appreciated.

 

Now if only I could remember how to rename my existing thread, I can migrate the discussion over there!

 

ATB

 

Peter

 

An Aberdonian mate in New Zealand has just started a retirement project to build a 00 model of Ferryhilll shed in the 1960s. If you do decide to go that way I could put you in touch.

 

Yes Please!

[great northern]

Worth keeping Gilbert?

 

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I haven't had a go with the other one as the signals make it pretty tricky.

That's a big improvement Martin, thank you. As you say, those lattice posts do make things very tricky, near impossible, in fact. I'll be trying to get even more light up that end tomorrow, so we shall see what transpires.

[great northern]

Thanks Gilbert

You are more than welcome to say “I told you so.” It would be completely appropriate!

 

It was only when I got to the point of sitting looking at the potential wiring nightmare that was going to be Waverley east after doing the main lines, fiddle yard, Loco shed, carriage sidings, three double slips and Riccarton station, that I realised just how big an undertaking I had set out to achieve.

 

That said, he did all work, which is I suppose something to be pleased with.

 

The list is definitely taking shape, I know that I want to be able to do a little bit of shunting in a station, but   not a huge amount, and I do enjoy sitting back to watch the trains roll by, as well as doing a bit of fiddling around in the engine shed, and fiddle yard

 

The other challenge, which will probably be even bigger is to work out what pieces out of the 500+ items of stock that I possess I will actually want to use.

 

Because it doesn’t help that I’ve just acquired a Tango, and a B12!

 

I’ll stop hijacking the thread, and thank you for your indulgence and advice, both of which are much appreciated.

 

Now if only I could remember how to rename my existing thread, I can migrate the discussion over there!

 

ATB

 

Peter

 

 

Yes Please!

 I don't mind in the least Peter. It is railway related, and it will be interesting to see how things go. A B12 eh? Well, you could have one up that way, that's the good news, but it would have to be early 50s at the latest, and the Hornby model, lovely though it is, isn't right. You'd need the belpaire firebox variant, and I think that would be fairly difficult to achieve. There are some very clever people out there though.

[great northern]

 Velocity is off towards home, and we can watch her go.

The extra light behind the bridge has definitely helped.

 

The D16 is still waiting for the off, so we can get this rear three quarter view from the Midland sidings.

What a shame it is that none were preserved. New build, anyone?

[trw1089]

Just been enjoying (over several days), a catch up of my favourite thread.  I do like your updated cassette ideas and all the flexibility it gives you to represent the formations more closely.  While I was on our enforced "holiday" over Christmas with the inlaws I did some more research for my period and now have a sequence of about 50 moves from 5 am to around 2pm.  One thing that keeps coming up is the number of ordinary passenger services that ran on the Leeds extension, many of which were replaced by DMUs very early on, but at least in 1951-2 those smelly things weren't making inroads.  I'm curious as to why PN didn't have so many, is that because the main line services were frequent enough that local services weren't needed as much?  On the Leeds extension it seems the ratio is about 4 locals to one express.  Good for me as more short trains, plus I suppose there were many different destinations in that area of the West Riding (and even those to the same destination went different ways).  At least the research passed the time while suffering in-law dramas.  Back to work tomorrow to recover!

 

Thanks again for all your recent posts Gilbert, it keeps me inspired and motivated.

 

Cheers
Tony

[St Enodoc]

Yes Please!

PM sent.

[great northern]

Just been enjoying (over several days), a catch up of my favourite thread.  I do like your updated cassette ideas and all the flexibility it gives you to represent the formations more closely.  While I was on our enforced "holiday" over Christmas with the inlaws I did some more research for my period and now have a sequence of about 50 moves from 5 am to around 2pm.  One thing that keeps coming up is the number of ordinary passenger services that ran on the Leeds extension, many of which were replaced by DMUs very early on, but at least in 1951-2 those smelly things weren't making inroads.  I'm curious as to why PN didn't have so many, is that because the main line services were frequent enough that local services weren't needed as much?  On the Leeds extension it seems the ratio is about 4 locals to one express.  Good for me as more short trains, plus I suppose there were many different destinations in that area of the West Riding (and even those to the same destination went different ways).  At least the research passed the time while suffering in-law dramas.  Back to work tomorrow to recover!

 

Thanks again for all your recent posts Gilbert, it keeps me inspired and motivated.

 

Cheers

Tony

The West Riding local services were chosen for the first roll out of DMUs, were they not?  From what I've seen and read though, the Leeds - Doncaster locals kept steam haulage for a lot longer. There are lots of photos of Pacifics on four coach trains, either running in turns, or in later years just to find them something to do.

 

As I recall, DMUs were supposed to be the miracle cure that would turn loss making rural lines round, and so they went to areas like Lincoln, where we got them on the locals to Boston and Grantham very early on.  The E.Lincs was also targetted, but only three services each way were DMU in 1958. Then of course there were the Cravens units which were to save the M&GN, but it was closed before they arrived, so they went to plague London commuters instead.

 

As I've said before, I chose 1958 very carefully, as it gives me the last gasp of things I really like, before the diesels replaced them. Just two years later they were all gone.

[great northern]

Again we are promised sun, but there is no sign of it. At PN though it is a fine day, and a J50 can be seen bringing a short trip working from South yard to New England.

This crop really emphasises the bulk of the bridge, but the image started off like this.

Which do you prefer?

 

Then the D16 started its journey, and it's progress was closely followed, even after it had passed under the bridge, but that must wait until later.

 

 

[31A]

 

 

Which do you prefer?

 

 

 

 

 

Can't choose!

[CUTLER2579]

Gilbert,

 

The Cropped version.

 

Unlucky Imps     

[trw1089]

The first pic has more presence for me, and the J50 becomes the focal point more clearly, but that’s probably just my wonky ideas of composition!

 

Cheers

Tony

[Martin S-C]

The first picture is definitely the stronger composition as it brings focus to the two main elements - train and bridge.

[great northern]

The sun finally appeared, so I had to remember how to deal with a different set of photography problems, but a good running session with no fallings off confirmed that the new order seems to be a very good way forward. The experiment with additional lighting also continued. Here is a pretty horrid photo, included just to show where the additional light is situated.

 

This has worked well when there is little light coming in, but sadly today has shown that it has little effect when the sun is out. I have one more light to install, so hopefully if I get the location right that may help.

 

In the meantime, how about some more views of the departing D16.

The second one is the furthest along I've tried to go, and seems to work well with judicious cropping. It was also taken to include some recently weathered vans.

 

[great northern]

The Tees-Tyne pullman is due, but when it appears from under Spital Bridge we can see it doesn't have the usual A4 at the head.

It is an A1 cleaned to Top Shed's usual standards though, and the two roller bearing A1s at KX were normally in the top link.

And as it gets closer, it is a very fine sight indeed.

 

Now we await 1000am. but in my case without any real expectations. Hornby stealing the march on Bachmann with an almost ready for release V2 would be the ideal, I think. Other than that, I continue to marvel at the demands for yet more new tooling of diesel classes that have already been redone more than once.

[billy_anorak59]

For the fourth successive day we are promised wall to wall sunshine, but so far, as on the previous three, we have wall to wall low cloud and near darkness. Golf today though, so I predict that the sun will appear when I'm out, and can't take any photos.

 

Here's what happens when I try to take photos on days like this.

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Try photoshopping that background, particularly the poles.

 

 

Bit late I know, but here you go, Gilbert - embrace the gloom!

[great northern]

One more look at Great Eastern. Although it looks as though the photographer must have been standing in a very dangerous position, I have found prototype pictures like this, so it must have been possible to get such shots while safely standing on the Down platform.

The Pullman ran straight through, of course, so there was soon a path for B17 Gayton Hall to bring in the terminating service from Doncaster via Lincoln and Boston.

[great northern]

Gayton Hall runs on past the signal box.

 

And has to remove its stock quickly, as the Up is very busy at present. Our man noticed this unusual CK, and decided to take a picture of it.

[Martin S-C]

Gilbert, I think I'm in love with your ballast and the general grotty ground cover. Lovely job on that.

Edited January 8, 2019 by Martin S-C