Peterborough North

[60027Merlin]

Golden Eagle at rest this morning.

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It was allegedly a particularly weak engine till it got the double chimney, but I love the bird names, and can't justify most as the Scots snaffled nearly all the best ones, so 23 it had to be.

 

For those who like this sort of thing, here's what lives in the Down side of the fiddle yard now.

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Road 13 remains empty, not because of superstition, but because I can't think of anything to put in there!

 

Gilbert

 

We may have had one more bird in B.R. days as in the late 40s Haymarket lost Golden Eagle to Gateshead in a swap for William Whitelaw!

 

Eric

 

PS could you check your pm

[Clive Mortimore]

Now now Clive, You've seen for yourself how pampered and cossetted DMUs are at PN. Why, they even have their own dedicated spurs in an exclusive and most sought after corner of the fiddle yard. Anyway, one unit wouldn't even start to fill up that road. However, there is an interesting entry in Railway Observer September 1958 which goes like this. " On Friday 1st August there was no stock available for the 3.59 relief KX- Cleethorpes, for which a number of two car diesel units were sent empty from Lincoln to constitute the first public multiple unit diesel train out of KX. The next day five two car diesel units formed the 6.50 Grimsby-KX and the 3.52 return."  How about this.... You build it, and I'll store it in Road 13. :jester:

Hi Gilbert

 

According to David Percival in Kings Cross Lineside 1958 to 1984 it was formed of four 2 car Cravens units. A photo of the train passing Hitchin is included in the book. The units are same variation as the Bachmann model without speed whiskers. There were front end differences and some had more or less windows in the brake van, thankfully bachamnn made the right version for the Lincoln and Cambridge batch.  Hugh Longworth in BR First Generation DMUs gives  Driver motor brake seconds E 51254 to 51263 and Driver Trailer Composites E56412 to E56421  as being new to Lincoln. These were delivered between May and July. There were some more of this batch new to Lincoln but they were delivered later in the year. So it would have been four of these ten units, I doubt anyone visiting Peterborough North will know the numbers of the coaches involved on the day.  There you go fuddle yard road 13 has an occupant. 

[great northern]

Hi Gilbert

 

According to David Percival in Kings Cross Lineside 1958 to 1984 it was formed of four 2 car Cravens units. A photo of the train passing Hitchin is included in the book. The units are same variation as the Bachmann model without speed whiskers. There were front end differences and some had more or less windows in the brake van, thankfully bachamnn made the right version for the Lincoln and Cambridge batch.  Hugh Longworth in BR First Generation DMUs gives  Driver motor brake seconds E 51254 to 51263 and Driver Trailer Composites E56412 to E56421  as being new to Lincoln. These were delivered between May and July. There were some more of this batch new to Lincoln but they were delivered later in the year. So it would have been four of these ten units, I doubt anyone visiting Peterborough North will know the numbers of the coaches involved on the day.  There you go fuddle yard road 13 has an occupant. 

 I should have known you would have the details Clive. I don't have that book, so I always pictured in my mind several Derby heavyweights. Do you know if this ever occurred again? It seems unlikely. I'm afraid three more Bachmann 105s won't be on my shopping list though.

[Clive Mortimore]

 I should have known you would have the details Clive. I don't have that book, so I always pictured in my mind several Derby heavyweights. Do you know if this ever occurred again? It seems unlikely. I'm afraid three more Bachmann 105s won't be on my shopping list though.

Go on you know you want to.....

[Oldddudders]

A nice pretty DMU?

Now there’s a contraception in terms!

[Clive Mortimore]

Now there’s a contraception in terms!

Hi Ian

 

We all know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, would you like to borrow my glasses?

[great northern]

Go on you know you want to.....

I didn't know that.

[great northern]

Now there’s a contraception in terms!

A prize for you, Ian, as that is the first time that word has ever appeared on this thread. I know what you meant, and it's not what others may be thinking. Dictionary definitions though only seem to recognise the more widely known meaning.

[great northern]

I have two folders with only one image in each, so I'll get rid of them. They aren't very exciting though. First up are the new occupants of the south spurs.

From the right we have the artic five set which usually appears in E.Lincs trains, and then the M&GN four set. Both are now directly accessible to road 1, and both are quite frequently used, so this is a good place for them. Then we have some loaded steel carriers, and t'other side of them pipes and tubes which will be loaded when I get round to it. Both of those will need a bit of toing and froing to get them on the end of the trains to which they were attached, but it doesn't take long. Finally, there are two BCKs in the far road, simply because I can't find anywhere else for them to live at present.

 

I really don't know why I took the next one, but here it is anyway.

Perhaps it was because you can see most of the rest of the train under the roof.

[great northern]

This morning we have a Colwick - KX goods Class F, B1 hauled.

Somehow a Lincoln engine has been used for this train, rather than one from 40E as might be expected. 61202 though is one of my earliest locomotive memories, always a Lincoln engine, and almost always seen on spotting visits, so an excuse had to be found to include it, and then work for it to do. Its running qualities have actually improved  since the last time it was called upon, but this is definitely a split chassis on its last legs.

[great northern]

The 1200pm (FO) to Newcastle is next in the procession of trains. Another Grantham A3, Victor Wild, has the job as far as its home town.

There would have been a lurch around the dogs leg curve, but not as severe as I've had to make it.

Back to those black and white days. I did take photos of the preceding goods formation, six of them in fact, but do you really want to see them?

[SR Chris]

I did take photos of the preceding goods formation, six of them in fact, but do you really want to see them?

 

Yes please !

[Tony Wright]

Lloyd,

Tony Wright on his layout Little Bytham is in the process of doing exactly that.

Regards,Derek.

I am Derek,

 

It takes about an hour to do a foot of the stuff at the moment (I'm up to six parallel runs). This includes soldering in the cranks and compensators. The time increases with each run, and there'll be around 17 by the time I reach the 'box from the north. About 14 then head off south.

 

Is it worth doing? Of course; in fact I now think it's essential. The moment it's made/installed, I think 'Yes, that completes the scene'. 

 

I did think it would be easy with the introduction of Wills plastic rodding, but it's far too big. I make mine up from MSE components, using a simple jig. 

 

How many runs are needed on PN is anyone's guess, but they're all visible in prototype shots. 

[Grafarman]

I am Derek,

 

It takes about an hour to do a foot of the stuff at the moment (I'm up to six parallel runs). This includes soldering in the cranks and compensators. The time increases with each run, and there'll be around 17 by the time I reach the 'box from the north. About 14 then head off south.

 

Is it worth doing? Of course; in fact I now think it's essential. The moment it's made/installed, I think 'Yes, that completes the scene'. 

 

I did think it would be easy with the introduction of Wills plastic rodding, but it's far too big. I make mine up from MSE components, using a simple jig. 

 

How many runs are needed on PN is anyone's guess, but they're all visible in prototype shots.

 

I hear the sound of a gauntlet being thrown down...

[great northern]

I am Derek,

 

It takes about an hour to do a foot of the stuff at the moment (I'm up to six parallel runs). This includes soldering in the cranks and compensators. The time increases with each run, and there'll be around 17 by the time I reach the 'box from the north. About 14 then head off south.

 

Is it worth doing? Of course; in fact I now think it's essential. The moment it's made/installed, I think 'Yes, that completes the scene'. 

 

I did think it would be easy with the introduction of Wills plastic rodding, but it's far too big. I make mine up from MSE components, using a simple jig. 

 

How many runs are needed on PN is anyone's guess, but they're all visible in prototype shots. 

My guess would be that there are an awful lot, Tony. I entirely agree that they complete the scene, and they look really good on LB, but no way could I do it, and I reckon I would be faced with a deafening silence if I asked someone else. Actually, I di buy some of the Wills stuff, but It doesn't look right.

[great northern]

OK, pictures of vans, opens, pipes and tubes appear below.

 

I'm finding that having these on layout rather than in cassettes really does speed things up, and the concept of adding the specials at the back from spurs took very little time as well, so I'm marking this experiment down as a big plus.

 

I also followed TW's advice and took a number of shots of the 1200 Newcastle. I then couldn't decide which of the two from this angle was better, so here's the other one.

[Tony Wright]

OK, pictures of vans, opens, pipes and tubes appear below.

3 goods 1.JPG

4 goods 2.JPG

5 goods 3.JPG

6 goods 4.JPG

7 goods 5.JPG

8 goods end.JPG

 

I'm finding that having these on layout rather than in cassettes really does speed things up, and the concept of adding the specials at the back from spurs took very little time as well, so I'm marking this experiment down as a big plus.

 

I also followed TW's advice and took a number of shots of the 1200 Newcastle. I then couldn't decide which of the two from this angle was better, so here's the other one.

11 105 3.JPG

With regard to picture of the A3, you've got the classic problem of contre jour (I don't know how to write accents), resulting in the top of the boiler being burnt-out and deep shadows this side.

 

I don't believe it's possible to link your camera with pulses of fill-in flash to compensate, because exposures needed are usually in excess of five seconds.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

[great northern]

With regard to picture of the A3, you've got the classic problem of contre jour (I don't know how to write accents), resulting in the top of the boiler being burnt-out and deep shadows this side.

 

I don't believe it's possible to link your camera with pulses of fill-in flash to compensate, because exposures needed are usually in excess of five seconds.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

Yes. it is almost always going to happen, but then it did in the afternoon in the real world. Would the lens hood you recommended help at all? I really do intend to get one, but on the rare occasions when I venture into Nottingham I always forget.

[Podhunter]

you've got the classic problem of contre jour (I don't know how to write accents)

contre jour doesn't have an accent, so you're OK.

But, if you do want to be grammatically correct when writing another language, the quickest way is to perform a web search for the phrase.  One of the first three results will probably contain the correctly accented form of the phrase.  For example, if I want to write raison detre correctly (missing apostrophe and accent), here is the first result after a short Web search: raison d'être.

[Tony Wright]

Yes. it is almost always going to happen, but then it did in the afternoon in the real world. Would the lens hood you recommended help at all? I really do intend to get one, but on the rare occasions when I venture into Nottingham I always forget.

It would help in two ways, Gilbert.

 

It would probably reduce the flare on top surfaces (not guaranteed) and definitely prevent the odd halos of light you get in deep shadows from time to time, caused by internal reflections between the lenses when shooting contre jour. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

[great northern]

It would help in two ways, Gilbert.

 

It would probably reduce the flare on top surfaces (not guaranteed) and definitely prevent the odd halos of light you get in deep shadows from time to time, caused by internal reflections between the lenses when shooting contre jour. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

Thanks Tony. I'll go to the good camera shop in the City next week, and see if they have got a suitable hood.

Edited January 18, 2019 by great northern

[great northern]

Another senior moment means that I processed the wrong version of this image, so I'll post it now and be done with.

Could be a nice shot for the future though.

[Tony Wright]

Another senior moment means that I processed the wrong version of this image, so I'll post it now and be done with.

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Could be a nice shot for the future though.

Sorry to be 'picky' Gilbert, but the nearer lamp is facing the wrong way.

 

And, please, ask Tim to take off the higher wiggly pipe on the side of the loco's smokebox. This was always on the opposite side to the drive. Hornby decided to put it on both sides at the same time it would seem. 

 

 

It's well worth doing. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

Edited January 18, 2019 by Tony Wright

[great northern]

Sorry to be 'picky' Gilbert, but the nearer lamp is facing the wrong way.

 

And, please, ask Tim to take off the higher wiggly pipe on the side of the loco's smokebox. This was always on the opposite side to the drive. Hornby decided to put it on both sides at the same time it would seem. 

 

Loco improve 07.jpg

 

It's well worth doing. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

Lamps are rapidly becoming the bane of my existence Tony. I just can't see the little perishers well ebougn, and I swear they sometimes move on their way round from the fiddle yard. This one though was a clear case of looking and not seeing. I'll ask Tim to deal with the pipe when this one gets to the top of the list of locos he hasn't had a chance to work on yet. It's quite a long list though, so I'll try to remember to ask him to deal with it when he next visits.

[great northern]

One more picture tonight, as Victor Wild heads for home.

Or it would if the signals were off. I despair.