Peterborough North

[Mallard60022]

Flight completed. Le Duck (that should really be Le Drake should it not?), back at 36E and not one beastly bust-up upon the A46 and A1 thank goodness. Most enjoyable few hours rest at PN and Gilbert, do run that pesky Triplet round a good few times and have a good look at it to make sure you are happy with the realignment. If not, we shall tackle it soon matey. Good to meet your other guest today and have fun discussing the meaning of 42 and DCC. Thanks also for the mags; I shall, of course, return them if they were not intended to be parted with.

Yo

Le Drake of Retford.

[Martin S-C]

Wonderful to visit you today Gilbert to see the layout and chat about all kinds of things. Great to meet Herr von Duck as well. I learned a lot about DCC control and macros as well as the cassette arrangements.

I am sorry to say that Peterborough station is a shadow of what it was as is the surrounding area but if there is anything you need pics of, just drop me a note and I'll easily have time to do a quick photographic trip.

Now that I can put a face to the name I won't be calling you Kevin any more either!

 

The photos of that curious green machine with a cab at the wrong end have come out well.

[great northern]

2 hours ago, Mallard60022 said:

Flight completed. Le Duck (that should really be Le Drake should it not?), back at 36E and not one beastly bust-up upon the A46 and A1 thank goodness. Most enjoyable few hours rest at PN and Gilbert, do run that pesky Triplet round a good few times and have a good look at it to make sure you are happy with the realignment. If not, we shall tackle it soon matey. Good to meet your other guest today and have fun discussing the meaning of 42 and DCC. Thanks also for the mags; I shall, of course, return them if they were not intended to be parted with.

Yo

Le Drake of Retford.

No, no Phil. If you were French, and I'm not suggesting you are for one moment, mon dieu non, but if you were, and if you were also an aristocratic sort of chappie, you would be Le Duc de Retford, but Retford, when I lived there, showed very few gallic tendencies, so you may not be.

 

I don't need the mags back, so do with them what you will.

[New Haven Neil]

I see the N5 is there to take the train back......

[great northern]

4 hours ago, Martin S-C said:

Wonderful to visit you today Gilbert to see the layout and chat about all kinds of things. Great to meet Herr von Duck as well. I learned a lot about DCC control and macros as well as the cassette arrangements.

I am sorry to say that Peterborough station is a shadow of what it was as is the surrounding area but if there is anything you need pics of, just drop me a note and I'll easily have time to do a quick photographic trip.

Now that I can put a face to the name I won't be calling you Kevin any more either!

 

The photos of that curious green machine with a cab at the wrong end have come out well.

Good to meet you Martin, and a very enjoyable day. I hope something useful to you came out of it. It's really good that two people whose ideal layout wants are so different can get on as well as we did.

[great northern]

1 hour ago, New Haven Neil said:

I see the N5 is there to take the train back......

 Back to the carriage sidings is all Neil. I don't think that elderly lady could manage much more than that.

[great northern]

Our chap kept snapping away furiously, in the hope that he'd get some dosh for at least one of his efforts, perhaps even enough to pay for one of these new fangled two rail Hornby Dublo A4s.

 

 

 

When D5901 got out of the way, the A3 was just moving away, and he had the sense to get another shot of that as well.

 

 

[thegreenhowards]

I do like a baby Deltic even though I’m too young to have seen one. They’re one of the reasons I model the South end of the ECML. Is that the first time we’ve seen her on PN? Nice subtle weathering on the loco. 

[great northern]

 Still one more shot of the baby Deltic, before it goes off on shed and confounds the fitters.

 

 

 

and now, as the last of the light fades, our photographer wends his weary way home. By 7.00am though, either he or someone else is already up and about. All that is on view though is the C12  propelling the stock for the first KX stopper, which it will place in the carriage siding at the far end.

 

 

[great northern]

14 hours ago, thegreenhowards said:

I do like a baby Deltic even though I’m too young to have seen one. They’re one of the reasons I model the South end of the ECML. Is that the first time we’ve seen her on PN? Nice subtle weathering on the loco. 

I believe it is the first time Andy, though I can't remember why.

[great northern]

The C12 has moved along, and a Castle is revealed, a proper one too. Brancepeth Castle in fact.

 

 

 

Someone has also realised that the V2 which has been on pilot duty for days isn't going to get much mileage if it keeps on doing that. It doesn't quite have enough to allow a proposal for a general overhaul yet, so it has been sent off to do something which will boost it a bit. Its replacement looks even more in need of attention.

 

 

[Tom D]

As always, love to follow your thread, but couldn't put my finger on what was so different about the C12 shunting coaching stock.....after a long time staring at the picture, the penny finally dropped, ....................articulated bogie, lovely bit of modelling, how difficult is it to use this in your stock? 

 

Best regards,

 

Tom D

13 hours ago, great northern said:

 Still one more shot of the baby Deltic, before it goes off on shed and confounds the fitters.

 

 

 

and now, as the last of the light fades, our photographer wends his weary way home. By 7.00am though, either he or someone else is already up and about. All that is on view though is the C12  propelling the stock for the first KX stopper, which it will place in the carriage siding at the far end.

 

 

 

[jwealleans]

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Someone has also realised that the V2 which has been on pilot duty for days isn't going to get much mileage if it keeps on doing that.

 

Isn't it in Top Shed where PT relates that locos badly in need of an early shopping were booked to pilot duties and a nominal mileage each day while they sat cold in the shed until they reached the proposal threshhold?

[great northern]

10 hours ago, Tom D said:

As always, love to follow your thread, but couldn't put my finger on what was so different about the C12 shunting coaching stock.....after a long time staring at the picture, the penny finally dropped, ....................articulated bogie, lovely bit of modelling, how difficult is it to use this in your stock? 

 

Best regards,

 

Tom D

 

Sorry Tom, I'm not sure what you mean by difficult. It isn't difficult to justify using it, in fact it is absolutely essential for the Kings Cross stopping trains. Difficult in the sense of operation? No, I haven't experienced any problems with derailment, or anything else.

[great northern]

1 hour ago, jwealleans said:

 

Isn't it in Top Shed where PT relates that locos badly in need of an early shopping were booked to pilot duties and a nominal mileage each day while they sat cold in the shed until they reached the proposal threshhold?

 He certainly recounts a story about one Pacific, an A3 I think, though I don't remember which one, which was so run down and rough riding that the men refused to take it out on passenger work. As I recall, it was indeed refused because the mileage wasn't high enough, and the subterfuge of booking it to pilot duty was used.

 

I also remember Dick Hardy mentioning using the same solution, but again not the exact details.

[great northern]

This morning we have an image which will bring joy to a small island to the West.  Our other pilot has propelled in the stock for the 7.35 Parly to Doncaster.

It does make rather a nice shot actually, but it is only the camera which thinks the second coach is banana shaped. I assure you it is not.

 

We then get a picture which replicates something I have seen in quite a few prototype pictures, but have never before set up myself. No doubt to reduce line occupancy, both Up and Down slow lines were used to move several locomotives together. Here we have such an instance.

 

 

 

The diesel shunter will head on down to one of the yards, or possibly to Fletton to shunt the brickyard sidings. The B1 is the engine for the Doncaster Parly, and the V2 will take the 7.25 to KX, thus adding 76 miles legitimately towards that magic shopping figure. I now know how to set up what NCE refers to as a "consist". It took some time.....

[jwealleans]

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the stock for the 7.35 Parly to Doncaster.

 

Apologies if this has been covered before, but is that a 6 wheeler between vehicles 4 and 6?  If so is it a BZ and therefore non-gangwayed?  Is this two portions or a part ECS working?

 

 

[JeffP]

Great shot Gilbert, reminds me of the "Plant Stream".

[great northern]

3 hours ago, jwealleans said:

 

Apologies if this has been covered before, but is that a 6 wheeler between vehicles 4 and 6?  If so is it a BZ and therefore non-gangwayed?  Is this two portions or a part ECS working?

 

 

It is as the official formations book says it should be Jonathan. From far end, BZ BSK CK BZ for Doncaster, then BSK SK CK SK BSK for Retford, and BG at the rear for Manchester.

[calvin Streeting]

4 hours ago, great northern said:

 

can i ask whats the first coach..  (sorry for ignorance.. )  

 

found it a ex LNER BG coach.. i asume..  

 

 

Edited April 3, 2019 by calvin Streeting

[cctransuk]

5 minutes ago, great northern said:

From far end, BZ BSK CK BZ for Doncaster, then BSK SK CK SK BSK for Retford, and BG at the rear for Manchester.

 

... but I only count eight vehicles including the BG.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

[great northern]

2 hours ago, calvin Streeting said:

 

can i ask whats the first coach..  (sorry for ignorance.. )  

 

found it a ex LNER BG coach.. i asume..  

 

 

Yes. Gresley BG built from a Kirk kit many years ago.

[jwealleans]

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From far end, BZ BSK CK BZ for Doncaster, then BSK SK CK SK BSK for Retford, and BG at the rear for Manchester.

 

Portions.  Thought so.  If there's no catering, there's no need to have access throughout although you'd hope the guard would make sure everyone was in the right vehicles.

[great northern]

2 hours ago, cctransuk said:

 

... but I only count eight vehicles including the BG.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

OK guv, it's a fair cop. You got me bang to rights this time. There should be an Artic twin next to the trailing BG, but something must have distracted me, and I forgot.

 

 Here's a true story. A long long time ago, during the early years of my career, I was sitting in the local Magistrates Court one day, waiting for my client's case to be called, and idly listening to the case in progress. The very young PC giving evidence said that the Defendant had admitted the offence to him, using those exact hackneyed words quoted above. The Defence solicitor, very experienced, asked the Bench to acquit his client, on the basis that no-one would have actually said that, so the PC was lying. And they did! I've always wondered whether the Defendant deliberately said that to set up the defence later. The officer seemed quite genuine when giving his evidence.

[great northern]

" The dregs of Gateshead".  That's a description from Railway Observer in 1958, and here is one that fits the bill.  60070 brings in the Edinburgh- Colchester.

 

 

 

Having come off, it reverses along the Down slow towards New England for servicing and coaling, but definitely not for cleaning.

 

 

 

Another one that whispered to me that it would be better in black and white.