Peterborough North

[great northern]

8 minutes ago, davidw said:

Hi Gilbert, I've just received 'Lasy years of the Eastern Region' as an early birthday present. Cracking photos and lots of photographic  evidence the King's Cross locos were not always clean.

Could you post the ISBN please David? I'm not sure which one you are referring to. Is it a new book, and if so, who publishes it?

[davidw]

Its Book Law. ISBN 978-1-909625-95-2. Title corrected

[Tony Wright]

9 hours ago, great northern said:

Could you post the ISBN please David? I'm not sure which one you are referring to. Is it a new book, and if so, who publishes it?

Good morning Gilbert,

 

The book David West mentions, The Last Years of Steam on the Eastern Region by Paul Leavens & SVMRC, Book Law. ISBN: 9 781909 625952, is well worth obtaining because of the standard of the photographs and reproduction. In those regards, I've not seen better. For model-makers following latter day BR ER (mainly ECML) practice, it is a must.

 

However, as with so many more-recent books, 'beware' of the captions. (By the way, the shot on page 16 shows Deltic carrying lamps, and all its buffer beam gubbins). 

 

For instance. On page 4 the prototype Deltic is on the Up side at Doncaster, not the Down. On page 10, the articulated pair of cars behind 60144 (again at Doncaster) is definitely NOT from the pre-War 'Coronation', but a much more humble duo - a Tourist twin TO/TO. At the top of page 21 no mention is made that MERLIN is, in fact, on the Down Saturday 'Elizabethan' passing through Doncaster - note the extra cars at the north end in the consist. Incorrectly, the headboard is carried (not unusual). On page 31, 44576 is on a stopping passenger train at Sheffield, not empty stock (note the lamp). In the sequence of pictures at Retford (which also shows Deltic with lamps), the author (having noted a '10 mph' speed restriction) assumes that was for the main line over the flat crossing (it actually refers to the Up GN/GC link), when, in fact, the restriction was 65 mph. As he states 'appearances can be deceptive'.  As a native of Lincoln, you'll know your Up from your Down at Central. A shame the author didn't ask you! On page 96, an A3 is mistaken for an A1! And so on...................

 

The views at Peterborough will be of great interest to you. Are you contemplating making the point rodding?! There's a great shot of an EE Type 4, with discs. 

 

All the above said, as alluded to, I recommend anyone interested in actual ER prototype modelling (especially the make-up of trains on the ECML) to acquire this book. Rejoice in the pictures, but ignore a lot of the captions!

 

Regards,

 

Tony.   

 

Edited June 10, 2019 by Tony Wright
typo error

[great northern]

Where is the promised monsoon? Yellow warnings all over the place, and not a drop of rain in sight. The usual over reaction to avoid possible criticism, I suppose.

 

The Flying Scotsman is due, and Top Shed's favoutite Woolwinder has the honour,

 

 

 

We haven't had a shot under the roof for a while.

 

 

[PaulCheffus]

1 hour ago, great northern said:

Where is the promised monsoon? Yellow warnings all over the place, and not a drop of rain in sight. 

 

Hi 

 

Its definitely raining in Lincolnshire though I wouldn't call it a monsoon.

 

Data from the weather station in my back garden.

 

Cheers

 

Paul

 

[Oldddudders]

A particularly successful under-the-roof shot, that one, Gilbert. 

[landscapes]

15 hours ago, davidw said:

Hi Gilbert, I've just received 'Last years of Steam on the Eastern Region' as an early birthday present. Cracking photos and lots of photographic  evidence the King's Cross locos were not always clean.

Hi David 

Does the book in question have a front cover with two A4’s standing outside what looks like Kings Cross MPD?

And does it also have a soft back cover as well.

Regards

David

Edited June 10, 2019 by landscapes

[davidw]

Yes it is 

39 minutes ago, landscapes said:

Hi David 

Does the book in question have a front cover with two A4’s standing outside what looks like Kings Cross MPD?

And does it also have a soft back cover as well.

Regards

David

 

[great northern]

OK, so it did rain after all, but not as much as forecast. Plenty more opportunities though, they say.

 

We have one more look at the Flying Scotsman and Woolwinder.

 

 

 

Too tired for any more, so goodnight all.

 

 

 

 

[great northern]

21 hours ago, Oldddudders said:

A particularly successful under-the-roof shot, that one, Gilbert. 

I agree Ian, but I don't really know why, as I took it just like all the others. Perhaps the light was just right at the time I pressed the shutter.

[great northern]

Truly awful this morning, pouring down, and feels like February outside. Good old England.

 

We have a photo of a Leicester Midland based Standard 4 on its way there having taken over the Ely-Birmingham.

 

 

 

I'm having to ration things at present, as there has been no light for photography the last couple of days, and I'm supposed to be golfing tomorrow and Thursday. That seems increasingly unlikely at the moment though.

[CUTLER2579]

Gilbert,

I trust the Wet Suit isn't wet any longer,but a Rowing boat may be a better option.

Hose pipe bans to be announced next week ?

Regards,Derek.

[great northern]

1 hour ago, CUTLER2579 said:

Gilbert,

I trust the Wet Suit isn't wet any longer,but a Rowing boat may be a better option.

Hose pipe bans to be announced next week ?

Regards,Derek.

The wet suit is very wet Derek, as I have just been out shopping, and it is coming down very hard indeed. My pond is starting to become part of the patio, so I may soon need the rowing boat to access the rest of the garden. Hose pipe ban next week? No, you're exaggerating there. It'll be at least a fortnight.

[Oldddudders]

If it's any consolation, I am 350 miles south of you, and while we've had less rain, it is very damp and chilly. Mind you, it got a bit warm in the adjacent village (3 km away) last night when the local factory burnt down. 600 jobs are now at risk.

[Martin S-C]

13 hours ago, great northern said:

We have one more look at the Flying Scotsman and Woolwinder.

 

 

 

 

The weathering on Woolwinder, is I think, the finest work Tim has done. He has made the engine look both dirty and clean at the same time, with a soot and ash coating on the upper boiler yet an oily sheen along its lower half. A wiped-clean cab and tender side yet track dust and dirt coating the area just above footplate height. The wheels and motion are an overall drab, with none of the "artsy" highlights so many other modellers, myself included, would be tempted to add. Simply superb work.

Edited June 11, 2019 by Martin S-C

[stewartingram]

4 hours ago, great northern said:

Truly awful this morning, pouring down, and feels like February outside. Good old England.

 

We have a photo of a Leicester Midland based Standard 4 on its way there having taken over the Ely-Birmingham.

 

 

 

I'm having to ration things at present, as there has been no light for photography the last couple of days, and I'm supposed to be golfing tomorrow and Thursday. That seems increasingly unlikely at the moment though.

 

I've never before seen a standard 4 fitted with condensing apparatus! Such an unusual design too - must have been tight through the tunnels...

 

Stewart

[great northern]

3 hours ago, Martin S-C said:

The weathering on Woolwinder, is I think, the finest work Tim has done. He has made the engine look both dirty and clean at the same time, with a soot and ash coating on the upper boiler yet an oily sheen along its lower half. A wiped-clean cab and tender side yet track dust and dirt coating the area just above footplate height. The wheels and motion are an overall drab, with none of the "artsy" highlights so many other modellers, myself included, would be tempted to add. Simply superb work.

 Do you know, Martin, I nearly made a comment like that myself when I looked at it closely. Yes, if not the finest Tim has done, it is right up there.

[great northern]

2 hours ago, stewartingram said:

 

I've never before seen a standard 4 fitted with condensing apparatus! Such an unusual design too - must have been tight through the tunnels...

 

Stewart

Oooh, you are awful I spent quite a while composing this, and it was the least worst I could come up with. There is so much clutter at this end that avoiding one problem just brings in another. That water crane actually does need cutting down somewhat, but it will still intrude after that has been done.

[great northern]

Dismal. There is no more to be said. Well perhaps, cold and dismal, but that's it. No need at all to go as far as cold wet dark and dismal. But it was. So there.

 

Tonight we have a long range view looking south, showing that another Ivatt has appeared in number 4 bay with a train for Kings Lynn. We can also just see that something has crept into platform 3. You'll have to wait and see what that is, and I'm sure that you won't cheat by enlarging the image, will you?

 

 

[great northern]

Golf today at Burghley Park, a lovely place to visit, and normally something very much to look forward too. Alas, all is still gloomy and often wet, so I rather hoped it might be off. It isn't though, so we must make the best of it. At least all my gear has now dried out after Saturday's experience.

 

We have a picture. I know that, but will now have to check photo gallery to see what it is. Ah yes, "closer view" it says, and that is exactly what it is.

 

 

 

60523 has the lightweight 3.58 to Grantham, just an artic five set behind the tender.

[trw1089]

Damn, Sun Castle again, thought I was going to get a new cop!

[Oldddudders]

15 minutes ago, trw1089 said:

Damn, Sun Castle again, thought I was going to get a new cop!

Yeah, I copped it in 1961!

[great northern]

A whole round of golf without getting wet. What's more, we finished only one point behind the winners, and finished........ninth. Some old fool three putted four times on the back nine too. This evening though, the monsoon has returned in full force.

 

Here is another shot of Sun Castle, as it starts away towards Grantham.

 

 

What did you expect? Honeyway? Ocean Swell? No such luck.

 

 

 

[robmcg]

Shouldn't those driving wheels be spinning?  <g>

 

Cheers, great thread, thanks!

[great northern]

10 hours ago, robmcg said:

Shouldn't those driving wheels be spinning?  <g>

 

Cheers, great thread, thanks!

It's only got five on! Even one of Thompson's finest would struggle to slip with that sort of load.