Peterborough North

[great northern]

10 hours ago, trw1089 said:

That last shot is a cracker!  I really do like that viewpoint, even though you have to go through contortions to get it (but noting that it is less contortionistic than before...)

It is much easier now Tony, except for the sqeeze along the baseboards, but when I get the camera the other side of the bridge, or up on top, seeing the viewfinder can be tricky. I'm trying to think of a way around that problem.

[great northern]

A couple of shots that I don't think really came out well tonight, but I've learned now just to post them and leave you to make your own minds up. A close up of the V2 first.

 

 

 

then another Ivatt on the way in from Kings Lynn. An attempt at a new angle here, but as I say, it doesn't do much for me.

 

 

[Oldddudders]

We are essentially loco-centric. So a loco in the foreground pleases us. Failing that, then shots of detail, odd corners of the layout - and certainly items of rolling stock - will all please. The distant Ivatt is none of those. It misses all those targets. 

[richard.h]

1 hour ago, great northern said:

It is much easier now Tony, except for the sqeeze along the baseboards, but when I get the camera the other side of the bridge, or up on top, seeing the viewfinder can be tricky. I'm trying to think of a way around that problem.

 

This has probably been suggested before and I can't remember what kind of camera you have but if it has a WiFi connection you can control it from another device.

I sometimes use a tablet to control my Canon Camera, this way you don't even have to be behind the camera, you use the tablet to set-up and take the shot with the added advantage that the camera veiwscreen is turned off so your battery lasts much longer.

[great northern]

9 hours ago, Mallard60022 said:

With that backscene view under the bridge G, could you put it on paper that actually starts on the baseboard top and then curves up into that scene, rather than the sheet just sitting at 90* onto the board?  Experiment with the 'amount of curve required'.

P

That sounds very interesting Phil, but when you are feeling better I may need some more instruction on what to do, and how to do it.

[St Enodoc]

10 hours ago, great northern said:

It is much easier now Tony, except for the sqeeze along the baseboards, but when I get the camera the other side of the bridge, or up on top, seeing the viewfinder can be tricky. I'm trying to think of a way around that problem.

Periscope?

[great northern]

Quick pictures before I go shopping. When I return, I'll have another look at the manual for my camera to see what it can or can't talk to, and ponder on the other kind suggestions. I have a free day, so I can go and give the layout a good looking at.

 

More experiments at the North end. Comments/criticisms welcome as always.

 

 

 

 

That ladder needs sorting, I'm still thinking of an excuse for those scottish private owner wagons, and lattices are still a real pain to photoshop. Perhaps I could have remembered to put the lens hood on too.

[Tony Wright]

11 hours ago, great northern said:

Quick pictures before I go shopping. When I return, I'll have another look at the manual for my camera to see what it can or can't talk to, and ponder on the other kind suggestions. I have a free day, so I can go and give the layout a good looking at.

 

More experiments at the North end. Comments/criticisms welcome as always.

 

 

 

 

That ladder needs sorting, I'm still thinking of an excuse for those scottish private owner wagons, and lattices are still a real pain to photoshop. Perhaps I could have remembered to put the lens hood on too.

Interesting views, Gilbert - as always.

 

Regarding ex-PO wagons, BRILL illustrated one some little time ago still in use as late as 1965. It had a 'P' prefix to its BR number, and the tattered original ownership was still apparent. Why not put an appropriate 'P' number in the bottom left-hand corners of the bodies of those wagons in view, and heavily-weather them? Even to the extent of painting-in replacement planks?

 

Criticisms? Constructive, I hope, but that obese NEM pocket underneath the Ivatt's bufferbeam ruins any illusion of reality. I think the pony is made of plastic, so a moment's work with the Xurons and it's gone! The remains disappear completely behind a screw shackle. 

 

 

Do you remember this Bachmann 'Flying Pig'? It was once your property, ex-of our late, great friend, Dave Shakespeare. I plugged the gap in the buffer beam where a Kadee once protruded through, and made good with filler. I also snipped off the pocket and installed a screw shackle. It's really well worth doing, and doesn't take long. 

 

By the way, that old Airfix ex-LMS BSK behind the Ivatt has long-gone!

 

Regards,

 

Tony.  

[great northern]

1 hour ago, Tony Wright said:

Interesting views, Gilbert - as always.

 

Regarding ex-PO wagons, BRILL illustrated one some little time ago still in use as late as 1965. It had a 'P' prefix to its BR number, and the tattered original ownership was still apparent. Why not put an appropriate 'P' number in the bottom left-hand corners of the bodies of those wagons in view, and heavily-weather them? Even to the extent of painting-in replacement planks?

 

Criticisms? Constructive, I hope, but that obese NEM pocket underneath the Ivatt's bufferbeam ruins any illusion of reality. I think the pony is made of plastic, so a moment's work with the Xurons and it's gone! The remains disappear completely behind a screw shackle. 

 

 

Do you remember this Bachmann 'Flying Pig'? It was once your property, ex-of our late, great friend, Dave Shakespeare. I plugged the gap in the buffer beam where a Kadee once protruded through, and made good with filler. I also snipped off the pocket and installed a screw shackle. It's really well worth doing, and doesn't take long. 

 

By the way, that old Airfix ex-LMS BSK behind the Ivatt has long-gone!

 

Regards,

 

Tony.  

The PO wagons were a gift from our friend Eric (Merlin) on one of his visits Tony, so  I would rather leave them as they came. They stayed in boxes for ages, but when the midland lines came into existence I used them there, but in places where they wouldn't appear on camera. Then, of course, I forgot.

 

Four Ivatts to be done, but as I have finally finished two small jobs today, they can creep a little further up the long list of things to be done. I do indeed remember that loco, and it is good to know that it is still earning a living with you, as are the ones I have.

[great northern]

So, what happened today?  As I was about ready to go up and get on with the railway, and to find the manual for the camera, an e-mail arrived, attached to which were many pages of a report which we will be considering at a meeting tomorrow. Four hours later, the light had gone, and I forgot about the manual. I did just manage to complete one job though, of which more tomorrow.

 

There is still one more picture of that Ivatt.

 

 

It is a nice angle, but three lattices superimposed on each other are well beyond my photoshopping skills.  It is still too dark in that back corner too, so there's another thing for me to do.

 

Far less problems at the other end, as 61635 arrives with the 8.06 local from March.

 

 

 

Backscene works well at this angle, and with stock partly obscuring it. It even looks OK in b&w, or am I just deluding myself?

 

 

 

[St Enodoc]

2 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

By the way, that old Airfix ex-LMS BSK behind the Ivatt has long-gone!

A new coat of paint and some flush glazing makes a reasonable "layout coach".

[TrevorP1]

On 17/08/2019 at 22:57, great northern said:

This closer crop also shows that it is a bit too high still. If I take more off the bottom though, it doesn't look right at all. It may well need to be, literally, an artist's impression. The power station should be further to the left as well.

 

 

 

 

The backscene really does add to things Gilbert. In your efforts to get the best compromise, the book  ‘Creating a Backscene: A Railway Modelling Companion’ by Paul Bambrick is a very interesting read. There is a useful section on horizons and vanishing points which might be of particular interest.

[Tony Wright]

10 hours ago, great northern said:

The PO wagons were a gift from our friend Eric (Merlin) on one of his visits Tony, so  I would rather leave them as they came. They stayed in boxes for ages, but when the midland lines came into existence I used them there, but in places where they wouldn't appear on camera. Then, of course, I forgot.

 

Four Ivatts to be done, but as I have finally finished two small jobs today, they can creep a little further up the long list of things to be done. I do indeed remember that loco, and it is good to know that it is still earning a living with you, as are the ones I have.

Good morning Gilbert,

 

Eric also gave me some RTR Scottish PO wagons.

 

I've altered them as described. He didn't seem to mind.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

[great northern]

55 minutes ago, TrevorP1 said:

 

The backscene really does add to things Gilbert. In your efforts to get the best compromise, the book  ‘Creating a Backscene: A Railway Modelling Companion’ by Paul Bambrick is a very interesting read. There is a useful section on horizons and vanishing points which might be of particular interest.

Many thanks Trevor, I will have a look for that, as it sounds like it may be just what I need.

[great northern]

Big meeting this evening, but hopefully I have some free time today to get on with things. I admit that at present I am somewhat fixated on backscenes,

 

A lovely clean March B17 deserves more than one image.

 

 

This one was another backscene experiment, while the next one was to see how much easier this view will be to photoshop now that the alterations have taken place.

 

 

There was a lot of light to contend with when I took this, so it presented a challenge. Looks OK at this size, but defects become clear if you zoom in too far. The view though is one of my favourites.

 

 

 

[great northern]

Interwebby thing went off this morning, so I rang the number to find out if it was a supplier fault, rather than my own system. But it doesn't tell you that any more, you get "switch your router off and back on again", and when you indicate that doesn't work, "we'll put you through to an operative". Several minutes of plink plonk music  later, a human being answers, goes through interminable security questions, then tells me to switch the router off and back on again. Unsurprisingly, that doesn't work, so she goes through another ten minutes of "try this, try that". Eventually she says  "Oh I'm being told there is a problem in your area, just wait, and it will be back in a few hours time". I used to be able to find that out in thirty seconds. Such is progress. It was several hours, but all is well now.

 

Here is the formation behind the B17. Why one non corridor vehicle tacked on the rear I do not know.

 

 

 

Then the Ivatt insisted in getting in on the act again.

 

 

It was a long meeting, so I'm off to bed.

 

 

 

[great northern]

We are back up to Spital Bridge again this morning, in time to see a 9F heading south, having just taken over a Class C from Newcastle. The first shot is from ground level near the sand drag on the Down slow.

 

 

And we also have a man up on the bridge.

 

 

[great northern]

Just to show that I do occasionally get round to finishing something, here are two very nice brake vans. Purchased many months ago, underframe weathering done several months ago. main weathering started weeks ago, and finally completed two days ago. All that is needed now is the obligatory rear lamps. I have loads of those, so it is just a matter of remembering where I put them.

 

 

[cctransuk]

1 hour ago, great northern said:

Just to show that I do occasionally get round to finishing something, here are two very nice brake vans. Purchased many months ago, underframe weathering done several months ago. main weathering started weeks ago, and finally completed two days ago. All that is needed now is the obligatory rear lamps. I have loads of those, so it is just a matter of remembering where I put them.

 

 

 

On the RH model - could the weathering of the number be trying to disguise something?

 

I ask this as a supplier of model railway transfers.

 

Tut - tut!

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

[Mallard60022]

8 minutes ago, cctransuk said:

 

On the RH model - could the weathering of the number be trying to disguise something?

 

I ask this as a supplier of model railway transfers.

 

Tut - tut!

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

Love it John and as a satisfied customer may I say that those items tut tut are indeed excellent.

Now then G (and Co.), on another thread there is some chat about 'new' Hornby Gresleys (Teak). Presumably the Buffet is still incorrect?

Looks like they will be about £50 a pop; arghhh. Glad I have loads of ancient coaches from a variety of sources, some being not that accurate, however they did not cost that sort of dosh.

P

[Mallard60022]

2 hours ago, great northern said:

Just to show that I do occasionally get round to finishing something, here are two very nice brake vans. Purchased many months ago, underframe weathering done several months ago. main weathering started weeks ago, and finally completed two days ago. All that is needed now is the obligatory rear lamps. I have loads of those, so it is just a matter of remembering where I put them.

 

 

Despite already being an arse I do not want to be one here...……...however, if the B vans will always run just 'one way' then maybe you could get rid of the

rear coupling and replace with a nice set of links?

P

[great northern]

1 hour ago, cctransuk said:

 

On the RH model - could the weathering of the number be trying to disguise something?

 

I ask this as a supplier of model railway transfers.

 

Tut - tut!

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

I knew I'd forget something.

[great northern]

39 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said:

Despite already being an arse I do not want to be one here...……...however, if the B vans will always run just 'one way' then maybe you could get rid of the

rear coupling and replace with a nice set of links?

P

Now that one I have remembered Phil, and I shall deal with it when I find the lamps.

[great northern]

43 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said:

Love it John and as a satisfied customer may I say that those items tut tut are indeed excellent.

Now then G (and Co.), on another thread there is some chat about 'new' Hornby Gresleys (Teak). Presumably the Buffet is still incorrect?

Looks like they will be about £50 a pop; arghhh. Glad I have loads of ancient coaches from a variety of sources, some being not that accurate, however they did not cost that sort of dosh.

P

The teaks don't look as bad, as they don't have mid lining to be wrongly positioned, but I don't think the lack of tumblehome has been corrected. If it has, bring on the BR liveried ones.

[Mallard60022]

39 minutes ago, great northern said:

The teaks don't look as bad, as they don't have mid lining to be wrongly positioned, but I don't think the lack of tumblehome has been corrected. If it has, bring on the BR liveried ones.

I think we are all waiting for that?

P

Edited August 22, 2019 by Mallard60022