Peterborough North

[great northern]

And so some silly person thought that if we could get up really high, we might get an idea of the full length of the 9F's train. A little levitation later, this was the result.

 

 

 

It does give an idea, though some of the mineral wagons are still in the fiddle yard, but it is not sensible to try to photoshop this, so after some swearing, we came back to earth,and a tried and trusted view.

 

 

[FarrMan]

2 hours ago, great northern said:

And so some silly person thought that if we could get up really high, we might get an idea of the full length of the 9F's train. A little levitation later, this was the result.

 

 

 

It does give an idea, though some of the mineral wagons are still in the fiddle yard, but it is not sensible to try to photoshop this, so after some swearing, we came back to earth,and a tried and trusted view.

 

 

I agree with you, Gilbert, about the angle compared to protoype photos. The parapet on Spital Bridge was quite high on both sides from the road, and extended all the way down to the junction on the East (Up) side, and so the only spot for a photo without a ladder was at the end of the parapets where the fence started on the West (Down) side of the line. This was just beyond the Midland lines/sidings. I can imagine having difficulties getting into that position without demolition - and the dust from that would be unthinkable!

 

I always thought that the weight sank (sagged?) down as you got older, and that you got shorter. When I go to pick up something off the floor, though, it seams further away than ever.

 

Many thanks again, Gilbert, for all your work and acrobatics to give us such magnificent prompts to reminisce.

 

Lloyd

[great northern]

17 minutes ago, FarrMan said:

I agree with you, Gilbert, about the angle compared to protoype photos. The parapet on Spital Bridge was quite high on both sides from the road, and extended all the way down to the junction on the East (Up) side, and so the only spot for a photo without a ladder was at the end of the parapets where the fence started on the West (Down) side of the line. This was just beyond the Midland lines/sidings. I can imagine having difficulties getting into that position without demolition - and the dust from that would be unthinkable!

 

I always thought that the weight sank (sagged?) down as you got older, and that you got shorter. When I go to pick up something off the floor, though, it seams further away than ever.

 

Many thanks again, Gilbert, for all your work and acrobatics to give us such magnificent prompts to reminisce.

 

Lloyd

Many thanks Lloyd. I' ve never succeeded in working out  exactly where photographers were standing though it was clear that they all seemed to be in the same place. Though I've visited a couple of times since starting the project, I've never ventured onto Spital Bridge myself. Now I know what can't be done, so I can stop worrying about it!

 

As to access, I've just measured the space between baseboard edge and wall, which is eleven and a half inches. I shall now take the view that, though it is a tight fit, I'm doing quite well if I can get in there at all. It is also a powerful disincentive to putting on any more excess weight, which must be a good thing.

[great northern]

One of our resourceful cameramen must have brought a ladder with him. How else could he have got this shot from the "wrong" side of Spital Bridge?

 

 

 

Our other man had remained in his normal position though, and so he could get this more acceptable view.

 

 

[jwealleans]

Gilbert, have I lost my orientation or was there a double-sided buffer stop more or less where the 58' GN carriage is standing?

[great northern]

1 hour ago, jwealleans said:

Gilbert, have I lost my orientation or was there a double-sided buffer stop more or less where the 58' GN carriage is standing?

There was Jonathan, and it is on the "to do" list. Here it is.

 

 

 

Peter and I have looked at it several times, and always decided to defer it until later. An intereasting scratchbuilding project?

[great northern]

Another Leicester bound local runs under Crescent Bridge, D16 hauled this time.

 

 

 

This is the only time of the day when both Up and Down Leicesters pass at PN, and here is the evidence to prove it.

 

 

[great northern]

Another lovely B17 tonight. Kimbolton Castle is waiting to depart with the 9.42 to Norwich.

 

 

 

First though, HA Ivatt takes precedence and comes through with the West Riding.

 

 

 

 

 

[great northern]

I am taking a break from golf, as it is doing my head in. Six shots from twenty yards from the green yesterday was the last straw. This means that more time may be spent on things that have been neglected for ages, but time will tell whether that happens.

 

More shots of Kimbolton Castle today. This angle coming out of Platform 6 and under the bridge has plenty of potential. Off to Norwich she goes.

 

 

 

 

No bookcases intermingled with the bridge supports to have to photoshop any more.

 

 

 

[trw1089]

B17s, always beautiful no matter what the angle!

[stewartingram]

Especially compared to a Flirt (or whatever they are called)

 

Stewart.

[great northern]

Deltic rumbles in on its normal morning turn.

 

 

 

and after it has departed, fish empties for Hull appear, KX having found something for one of its unwanted Standard 5s to do. I've never seen a photo of any of them employed on passenger duties.

[Fenman]

12 hours ago, stewartingram said:

Especially compared to a Flirt (or whatever they are called)

 

Stewart.

 

Sorry for O/T but I saw my first Flirts in the flesh at Cambridge yesterday. I thought they had a real presence — looking much more purposeful and “solid” than they do in photos. Very impressive, from the outside, at least. 

 

Back to PN: I’m not sure I agree that B17s are “beautiful”, but I think they’re hugely attractive machines. Poised and powerful-looking. A pumped-up muscleman compared to the more human D16s. 

 

But whatever the description, they’re lovely to see. PN just keeps getting better. 

 

Paul

[Pilgrim in France]

I believe a Standard class 5 was trialled on the Grimsby/Cleethorpes to Kings Cross express. Certainly I must have had evidence of this as it enabled me to justify buying one for the layout I had based on Boston. 

[great northern]

Please, vot is a flirt? Clearly it isn't what I've always understood one to be.

 

As to B17s, I admit to enormous bias where they are concerned, but as Paul says "hugely atrractive" is a very good description. D16s are beautiful though.

 

 

[great northern]

2 minutes ago, Pilgrim in France said:

I believe a Standard class 5 was trialled on the Grimsby/Cleethorpes to Kings Cross express. Certainly I must have had evidence of this as it enabled me to justify buying one for the layout I had based on Boston. 

That's very interesting. I wonder what Immingham and Boston enginemen had to say about it?  I've never seen anything other than Immingham locos on the Grimsby/Cleethorpes expresses, and they were the most prestigious duties either shed had. Was Top Shed hoping to get rid of the standards to Immingham? If so, it didn't work.

[great northern]

I've had a nice lie in this morning, and can now contemplate a railway related day. I just have to make sure I get some exercise though.

 

I'm still concentrating on lighting at the North end, so far without much success, as lighting one problem area just causes shadows to appear in another.  This shot is much easier now though.

 

 

But I don't find it particularly inspiring. It's this incoming view that I want to be able to improve, but it really is problematical.

 

 

This is the morning Parly from Doncaster, by the way. One unforeseen lighting difficulty is immediately apparent. Otherwise, this isn't bad. It is when the train gets closer that things get very difficult, as three lattice posts get superimposed one on top of the other, and I'm finding that impossible to deal with, as you can see below.

 

 

It were a low flying seagull that knocked the vac pipe sideways.

[great northern]

Two more shots of the incoming B1 tonight, after which we move on to something else.

 

 

This one was slightly easier thanks to improved lighting, but I've dicovered that the batteries in these things don't last very long at all, so that's another consideration I will have to factor in.  Next up is another look through that convenient archway.

 

 

[great northern]

Another load of empties is next on the Down, and it is still early enough for there to be a path on the main.GN cab 02 to be admired.

 

 

 

with journey's end in sight, 63940 passes local B1 61113, which will be off up the E.Lincs in a little while.

 

 

[thegreenhowards]

Gilbert,

 

Regarding the KX Standard 5s, I don’t recall ever seeing a picture of one on a passenger train bound for or through PN, but I have seen a few of them on KX- Cambridge passenger trains (e.g. Steam Days June 2011). That’s my justification for one!

 

Andy

[31A]

20 minutes ago, thegreenhowards said:

Gilbert,

 

Regarding the KX Standard 5s, I don’t recall ever seeing a picture of one on a passenger train bound for or through PN, but I have seen a few of them on KX- Cambridge passenger trains (e.g. Steam Days June 2011). That’s my justification for one!

 

Andy

 

Ditto; as per "King's Cross Lineside 1958-1984" p.34.  Bachmann helpfully made one of theirs 73158!

[great northern]

43 minutes ago, thegreenhowards said:

Gilbert,

 

Regarding the KX Standard 5s, I don’t recall ever seeing a picture of one on a passenger train bound for or through PN, but I have seen a few of them on KX- Cambridge passenger trains (e.g. Steam Days June 2011). That’s my justification for one!

 

Andy

 

22 minutes ago, 31A said:

 

Ditto; as per "King's Cross Lineside 1958-1984" p.34.  Bachmann helpfully made one of theirs 73158!

Yes, that makes sense doesn't it?  As I recall that is what they did with the Black 5 that arrived in the mid 50s too.

 

As a B1 equivalent, it would also be logical to use them on the summer Saturday Skegness trains, but I haven't seen any evidence of that. I suppose its the same old story. Something different, not what they were used to, and thus regarded with suspicion and dislike.

[69843]

On 23/08/2019 at 19:07, great northern said:

 

 

Playing a bit of catch-up here, but just noticed the lamp missing the, well, lamp.

The good news is I've got a new batch in a new, clear resin already pencilled in to trial next week. All being well, some new, tougher, clearer lamps should be on their way to you soon Gilbert.

[CUTLER2579]

2 hours ago, great northern said:

 

Yes, that makes sense doesn't it?  As I recall that is what they did with the Black 5 that arrived in the mid 50s too.

 

As a B1 equivalent, it would also be logical to use them on the summer Saturday Skegness trains, but I haven't seen any evidence of that. I suppose its the same old story. Something different, not what they were used to, and thus regarded with suspicion and dislike.

 

They were disliked by Crews and Fitters alike.My father who worked at 34D Neasden spent 5 days a fortnight working at Top Shed on the Standard Class 5's and on Stanier,s Black Five 44911 when it was on loan at Top Shed after it's move from Chester for A.W.S. tests in the late 1950,s.he loved it as it gave him travelling time and bumped up his wages. 

[great northern]

49 minutes ago, 69843 said:

Playing a bit of catch-up here, but just noticed the lamp missing the, well, lamp.

The good news is I've got a new batch in a new, clear resin already pencilled in to trial next week. All being well, some new, tougher, clearer lamps should be on their way to you soon Gilbert.

Many thanks. I still have one or two spares, but as you say they still are rather delicate, so I'm grateful for what you are now doing. It would help if I wasn't so hamfisted as well though.