Peterborough North

[great northern]

60028 emerges again into the fading daylight.

 

A few minutes later, an 02 hauled mixed goods heads for Hitchin.

 

 

 

 

 

[great northern]

The 02 moves slowly on as it gets darker still.

 

 

and is followed by 60105 with the last local from Grantham.

 

 

Rather strangely, it has got lighter again.

[thegreenhowards]

1 hour ago, great northern said:

The 02 moves slowly on as it gets darker still.

 

It's always good to se an O2 Gilbert. Even if such a sighting was rather rare on the prototype by 1958. I certainly run some on Gresley Jn., although I tend to choose one of my earlier period trains for it.

Andy

[great northern]

39 minutes ago, thegreenhowards said:

It's always good to se an O2 Gilbert. Even if such a sighting was rather rare on the prototype by 1958. I certainly run some on Gresley Jn., although I tend to choose one of my earlier period trains for it.

Andy

I now have a number of reliably dated photos of 02s at PN Andy, most of them waiting on the Down slow to get across into the yards, and with long trains too, so I reckon there were more of them about than some accounts suggest. The same applies with K3s too. Over generalisations are dangerous.

[45156]

Just love following this layout - it's iconic

 

Just one minor query - your "local" headed by 60105 carries class 1 headlights - is that correct?

[thegreenhowards]

1 hour ago, great northern said:

I now have a number of reliably dated photos of 02s at PN Andy, most of them waiting on the Down slow to get across into the yards, and with long trains too, so I reckon there were more of them about than some accounts suggest. The same applies with K3s too. Over generalisations are dangerous.

That’s good to hear. Plenty of excuses to run two of my favourite classes. Any chance of sharing any of the photos?

[great northern]

1 hour ago, 45156 said:

Just love following this layout - it's iconic

 

Just one minor query - your "local" headed by 60105 carries class 1 headlights - is that correct?

Well, there was I, humble pie ready for heating in the microwave, but when I checked the WTT, Class A it says, even though it stopped at nearly every station. There do seem to have been quite a lot of trains that ran Class A when the type of duty didn't seem to merit it. Can the railway experts explain?

[great northern]

It is fortunate that I did my running and photographing this morning, as the new Who album has just landed on my doormat. It will very shortly be played, probably more than once.

[great northern]

The Who album is living up to expectations. As usual, some tracks have instant appeal, while others take time to grow on me, but there's some real grassroots stuff in there.

 

The last trains of the day now. Victor Wild is at journey's end.

 

 

And from the South the 7.21 from KX arrives, with Woolwinder at the head. The HMRS survey shows that on four days out of five this was either an A3 or an A4 duty, so I follow suit. It would be interesting to find out what the next part of the diagram was, but I guess we shall never know.

 

 

[great northern]

The last of the last day.

 

 

with a reminder of where we have been.

 

This is followed rapidly by the start of a new day, and B17 Champion Lodge meandering down the engine road, soon to take over the Glasgow- Colchester.

 

 

For those statistically inclined, the last sequence took just 129 days to complete, so perhaps I'm getting a bit better at it. If that continues I should get through the whole thing four times in a year, which doesn't seem too bad. It does however mean that many locos will only run eight times per annum, the upside of which is that it should be quite a while before they expire.

[chris p bacon]

On 03/12/2019 at 17:53, phil.c said:

What track are you using, scratched pointwork or commercial?

 

On 03/12/2019 at 20:22, great northern said:

Norman Saunders of Just Tracks built the pointwork on the station side. If I remember correctly it is C&L based, but a lot of it was scratchbuilt. Fiddle yard side is Peco code 75.

 

On 04/12/2019 at 08:03, phil.c said:

That looks like SMP Finescale then?

 

On 04/12/2019 at 09:42, great northern said:

It's nearly ten years ago, but yes, I believe it is.

 

When Norman built some pointwork for me (following your recomendation Gilbert ) he said he preferred to use Exactoscale components for the plain track as they suited the C&L he used for pointwork. I'm sure yours is Exactoscale.

[FoxUnpopuli]

11 hours ago, great northern said:

The Who album is living up to expectations. As usual, some tracks have instant appeal, while others take time to grow on me, but there's some real grassroots stuff in there.

 

Ahh, a Who fan...

 

1 hour ago, great northern said:

For those statistically inclined, the last sequence took just 129 days to complete, so perhaps I'm getting a bit better at it. If that continues I should get through the whole thing four times in a year, which doesn't seem too bad.

 

...  not so much Rick Wakeman then?

 

[phil.c]

1 hour ago, chris p bacon said:

Apart from chairs etc on the Exactoscale site I can't see any rail lengths, so what does Norman use for flexi lengths and pointwork?

 

 

 

When Norman built some pointwork for me (following your recomendation Gilbert ) he said he preferred to use Exactoscale components for the plain track as they suited the C&L he used for pointwork. I'm sure yours is Exactoscale.

 

[FoxUnpopuli]

On 07/12/2019 at 16:15, Donington Road said:

PN features, starts at 2:07

 

Double posting, my bad manners, but I got around to finishing this and at around the 19mSomething mark, there's a PW train with multiple brakevans, crane, match trucks and bogie wagons with layers and layers of track upon them, tailed by the lifting jig for the track itself.  What a fabulous thing to model!

 

 

Also, what is the station throat seen at the late 21m early 22m mark?

Edited December 10, 2019 by FoxUnpopuli

[great northern]

21 hours ago, thegreenhowards said:

That’s good to hear. Plenty of excuses to run two of my favourite classes. Any chance of sharing any of the photos?

As usual they are scattered among goodness knows how many books, but here's one I have found.

 

 

Image is by the late Ben Brooksbank, and reproduced under common licence.

[chris p bacon]

2 minutes ago, phil.c said:

Apart from chairs etc on the Exactoscale site I can't see any rail lengths, so what does Norman use for flexi lengths and pointwork?

 

 Exactoscale is now sold through the 3 societies, (EM,P4 & S7 ?) and ASFAIK nothing is available direct from them.  What Norman reccommended to be used was the fast track bases  and plain HiNi rail, this was made up into 500mm or 1M lengths. It's not 'flexitrack' as you have to cut the webs to bend it but I used it as it gave the most realistic look and fitted in with the C&L components that Norman used to make pointwork.

I did all this after ripping up Peco code 75......it was all Gilberts fault as I was so struck by how good PN looks...even with all the work that came with it I'm very grateful to him as he showed that realism could be achieved 

[great northern]

1 hour ago, chris p bacon said:

 

 

 

 

When Norman built some pointwork for me (following your recomendation Gilbert ) he said he preferred to use Exactoscale components for the plain track as they suited the C&L he used for pointwork. I'm sure yours is Exactoscale.

Norman gave me a bit of stuff he had left over when he finished the job Dave. There were Exactoscale chairs and fishplates, but also some lengths of SMP plain track

Edited December 10, 2019 by great northern
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[chris p bacon]

To follow up a previous post. The totem for PN went to auction on the 7th with a guide price of £800-1200. It actually achieved £3400 + premium!!

 

That's a lot of golf balls.......or A4's....but preferably J6's 

 

[great northern]

47 minutes ago, chris p bacon said:

To follow up a previous post. The totem for PN went to auction on the 7th with a guide price of £800-1200. It actually achieved £3400 + premium!!

 

That's a lot of golf balls.......or A4's....but preferably J6's 

 

Right, that kills off any lingering thoughts about getting PN memorabilia!  You could get half the class of A4s for that.

[Clive Mortimore]

4 hours ago, chris p bacon said:

 

 Exactoscale is now sold through the 3 societies, (EM,P4 & S7 ?) and ASFAIK nothing is available direct from them.  What Norman reccommended to be used was the fast track bases  and plain HiNi rail, this was made up into 500mm or 1M lengths. It's not 'flexitrack' as you have to cut the webs to bend it but I used it as it gave the most realistic look and fitted in with the C&L components that Norman used to make pointwork.

I did all this after ripping up Peco code 75......it was all Gilberts fault as I was so struck by how good PN looks...even with all the work that came with it I'm very grateful to him as he showed that realism could be achieved 

If you look at photos from the period Gilbert is modelling the mainlines are fat bottom rail.

[gr.king]

50 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said:

If you look at photos from the period Gilbert is modelling the mainlines are fat bottom rail.

 

Too much consumption of crisps, chocolates and beer, plus insufficient exercise.

 

We "Danes" are not completely devoid of linguistic skills......

[Oldddudders]

Didn't someone sing that fat bottom rails make the world go round?

[great northern]

4 hours ago, gr.king said:

 

Too much consumption of crisps, chocolates and beer, plus insufficient exercise.

 

We "Danes" are not completely devoid of linguistic skills......

'Tis hard to exercise when you are firmly stuck down. I take the point about the beer though, it makes rolling stock wheels very sticky, so I won't give it any more of that.

[great northern]

7.15am, and all's well. A dishevelled B1 has brought in the stock for the Doncaster parliamentary, but won't be departing for another twenty minutes.

 

 

 

An equally disreputable Gateshead A3 has arrived with the Glasgow-Colchester, as the B17 waits in the bay.

 

 

[Clive Mortimore]

8 hours ago, gr.king said:

 

Too much consumption of crisps, chocolates and beer, plus insufficient exercise.

 

We "Danes" are not completely devoid of linguistic skills......

Ah, the missing "L" was spotted.

 

Now the question is did I miss it out by accident or as bait?

 

The reply was very good.

Edited December 11, 2019 by Clive Mortimore