jazzer Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Oldddudders said: But Hamilton Ellis described them as voracious coal-eaters, which Marsh's I3 for the Brighton showed up, leading to superheating arriving at Crewe. Ah, yes , but no but ...erm I don’t think rules include coal consumption . Were the Precursor tanks ever superheated ? I thought it was just the tender versions . However , I think even the I3 tanks were saturated as built but converted shortly afterwards, but it was apparently another company that led the way with superheating in this country. I forget where their works were but somewhere in down Wiltshire I think. Legend has it they were so good that their engineering tolerances were so fine they were still better when being scrapped than the rest were when they were brand new Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted June 22, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 22, 2020 Black 5 for me as well, although if we were voting for sound it might be a Jubilee on full chat! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium thegreenhowards Posted June 22, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 22, 2020 I didn’t vote for a Derby engine, mainly out of ignorance of what came from there. And I’m now confused is this steam only or all traction? If the former, then Black 5 but if I’m allowed diesels, then it will have to be a Class 52, Western. I’d certainly vote for Southern works and if you go west of London, while the steam is all contemptible, there were some superb diesels! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted June 22, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2020 Rather fatigued tonight, so a short visit. A local B1 with the 3.00pm to Grimsby. and at platform 6, a KX V2 with an ECS working. 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 G'Day Folks Going for a G2 Super D 0-8-0, built by the Romans, were around forever. manna 1 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodcock29 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Black 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 10 hours ago, great northern said: Rather fatigued tonight, so a short visit. A local B1 with the 3.00pm to Grimsby. and at platform 6, a KX V2 with an ECS working. Good morning Gilbert, I might well have asked this question before, but why has the V2 got rivets all over the Cartazzi frame. Having just been studying dozens of pictures of V2s for a model I'm currently building, I can find none with rivets (or studs) in this area. Regards, Tony. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted June 23, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: Good morning Gilbert, I might well have asked this question before, but why has the V2 got rivets all over the Cartazzi frame. Having just been studying dozens of pictures of V2s for a model I'm currently building, I can find none with rivets (or studs) in this area. Regards, Tony. You have Tony. This was built by a very well known and experienced person. I'm not naming names on here, that would be unfair in my view. I did on this occasion supply a good photograph of the locomotive I wanted, more than one if I remember correctly. A very well respected person made a mistake, but then we all do. The locomotive then went to another top professional for painting. You know him very well, as you do the builder. As both are in great demand, I waited a very long time for the model, at least two years, probably more. It was scratcbuilt, by the way. When it arrived, it had the wrong number! I had asked for 60852, and the photos I sent were of that loco. Someone else had made a mistake as well. So, what was I to do? I could have sent it back, but that would have meant another wait, and I desperately needed, and still do, good V2s. This is light years better than the old Bachmann things I still have to use, so I accept the mistakes, and use it often. I can live with the rivets, in fact I don't notice them. As you know, small detail doesn't bother me that much. 2 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted June 23, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2020 It is time for the Elizabethan to appear, 60012 having the Up duty today. A new headboard is needed, but I'm still looking for one which has gone missing, and which I know will turn up as soon as I order a replacement, so I will wait a little longer. 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted June 23, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 Black 5 8 votes, nothing else more than one. Perhaps I should have separated these into pre and post grouping categories. Anyway, having been assured that there will be a veritable flood of entries, today we shall consider the products of Eastleigh. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, great northern said: You have Tony. This was built by a very well known and experienced person. I'm not naming names on here, that would be unfair in my view. I did on this occasion supply a good photograph of the locomotive I wanted, more than one if I remember correctly. A very well respected person made a mistake, but then we all do. The locomotive then went to another top professional for painting. You know him very well, as you do the builder. As both are in great demand, I waited a very long time for the model, at least two years, probably more. It was scratcbuilt, by the way. When it arrived, it had the wrong number! I had asked for 60852, and the photos I sent were of that loco. Someone else had made a mistake as well. So, what was I to do? I could have sent it back, but that would have meant another wait, and I desperately needed, and still do, good V2s. This is light years better than the old Bachmann things I still have to use, so I accept the mistakes, and use it often. I can live with the rivets, in fact I don't notice them. As you know, small detail doesn't bother me that much. Thanks Gilbert, Is that the same V2 where I originally pointed out the dome was in the wrong place as well? Detail, whether large or small, is of great importance to me. Regards, Tony. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 Eastliegh, must be a Horsa glider. If not a Z class 0-8-0T cos I told Tim I would vote for it. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted June 23, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2020 Would you like a plonk with your tea? Or perhaps you would prefer to plonk a biscuit in it? Your tea, that is. 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Fox 34F Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 A Urie rebuilt T9 with the narrow driving wheel splashers and water cart tender. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 3rd Rail Exile Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 Slightly complicated this one, as design and construction were often carried out at different Southern works. The "Merchant Navies" were (apparently) largely designed at Brighton (but with assistance from both Ashford and Eastleigh), so despite having all been built (and rebuilt) at Eastleigh they might fall outside Gilbert's criteria. In similar vein, I'm not sure where the design work for the "Schools" and "Lord Nelsons" was carried out, despite being built at Eastleigh. So, in searching for "designed & built" at Eastleigh, I'll go for the original series "King Arthurs"... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 22 hours ago, Bloodnok said: this is a locomotive poll, which kinda rules out HST power cars Operationally they were regarded as locos from quite early on. However, they were designed at Derby so don't qualify under Gilbert's rules. Otherwise they'd get my vote too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieR4489 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 S15 gets my vote. Very capable, go-anywhere engines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Metropolitan H Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 I think it has to be the Urie S15 4-6-0, but it was a hard decision as the Urie rebuilt T9s with the narrow driving wheel splashers and water cart tender are another favourite - seeing No 120 running in LSWR colours in the late 150s / early 1960s was magical. When I went to the University of Southampton, in 1972, to study for a Mechanical Engineering Degree, our Engineering Drawing lecturer / tutor was a Mr Jolly, who had trained / worked at Eastleigh under Urie. He had a large framed print of an official works photograph of one of Urie's 4-6-0s on his office wall. After my first year, Mr Jolly took ill and died during the summer vacation 1973. He was replaced by a Mr Sadd! Regards Chris H 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Metropolitan H said: I think it has to be the Urie S15 4-6-0, but it was a hard decision as the Urie rebuilt T9s with the narrow driving wheel splashers and water cart tender are another favourite - seeing No 120 running in LSWR colours in the late 150s / early 1960s was magical. When I went to the University of Southampton, in 1972, to study for a Mechanical Engineering Degree, our Engineering Drawing lecturer / tutor was a Mr Jolly, who had trained / worked at Eastleigh under Urie. He had a large framed print of an official works photograph of one of Urie's 4-6-0s on his office wall. After my first year, Mr Jolly took ill and died during the summer vacation 1973. He was replaced by a Mr Sadd! Regards Chris H Did you know Andrew Kleissner at Uni? He was an old school mate of mine and built some nice N gauge layouts back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 Built at Eastleigh? Gordon Keeble Cars 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted June 23, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 Memo to self. Do not try to run polls which concern places about which others know far more than you do. 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 45156 Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 Does the rebuilt Merchant Navy count - I hope so, as my vote goes for that - utterly superb locos which were so much better than the unrebuilt version, IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Eastleigh? 10 4 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 3rd Rail Exile Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, 45156 said: Does the rebuilt Merchant Navy count - I hope so, as my vote goes for that - utterly superb locos which were so much better than the unrebuilt version, IMHO. Unfortunately, I think Jarvis was based at Brighton when he designed the rebuilds, so they're "designed at Brighton, built at Eastleigh" twice over... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simontaylor484 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Well i was going to suggest west country/battle of britain/ merchant navy but now not sure if they fit the criteria. But i will suggest them anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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