RMweb Premium great northern Posted June 28, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 What a poll that wasn't. Thanks to those who stopped it being a complete flop, the majority of whom voted for A1/3. Hurriedly returning south of the border and onto what should be very solid ground, we come at last to Doncaster. Let's do this in stages, so today we will look at locos from the earliest days up to 1914. We seek the best classes to emerge from the Plant during that time, taking into account technical innovation, reliability, versatility, longevity, and influence upon the future. And we will split it into passenger and goods categories too. Coming to the end of this type of poll I think, so any further suggestions as to what I may have missed out should be made now. We aren't going West though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 For today's Poll, no problem - Passenger locos - Large Atlantic (LNER Class C1). Goods locos - GN Class J22 (LNER Class J6). 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieR4489 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Passenger - Klondikes. They were the first Atlantics in Britain and they led to the C1s which were still in service in the ‘40s. Both the C1s and the C2s were more versatile than Gresley’s pacifics, especially on the route to Leeds until the late ‘30s. Goods - J52; first built in 1897 and the last was withdrawn in 1961. Not much technical innovation, though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Metropolitan H Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 I agree on the C1 Atlantics for the passenger loco, but the Gresley 2-8-0 (LNER O1class) or his H3 2-6-0 (LNER K2) are equal first contenders for freight and mineral working. Regards Chris H 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted June 28, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2020 Slightly delayed tea break while I sorted some necessary tasks. but here is another look at the previous view, now from up on the bridge. 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 Doncaster? It has to be the AL5s 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUTLER2579 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 26 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Doncaster? It has to be the AL5s Clive, I didn't realise the AL5's were built pre 1914, when I saw them in the early 60's at Willesden Junction I got the impression they were newish especially as BR had built a new depot for them. Regards,Del boy. 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted June 28, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 44 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Doncaster? It has to be the AL5s Clive, dear chap, along with your other ailments you are now obviously suffering from premature polling. I believe there may be non intrusive treatment available, but you need to get it seen to. I think an infusion made from the leaves of ragwort may do the trick. 1 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieR4489 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Must be all those poly cement fumes... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, CUTLER2579 said: Clive, I didn't realise the AL5's were built pre 1914, when I saw them in the early 60's at Willesden Junction I got the impression they were newish especially as BR had built a new depot for them. Regards,Del boy. 51 minutes ago, great northern said: Clive, dear chap, along with your other ailments you are now obviously suffering from premature polling. I believe there may be non intrusive treatment available, but you need to get it seen to. I think an infusion made from the leaves of ragwort may do the trick. Oh did Doncaster produce anything good before the AL5s? To be honest I got as far as reading Doncaster and thought "WOW AL5s" and didn't read any further. 2 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwordsmith Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Clive Mortimore said: Doncaster? It has to be the AL5s THat's a second from me! Maybe you should just do a poll of 'Favourite ever loco!' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted June 28, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, bigwordsmith said: THat's a second from me! Maybe you should just do a poll of 'Favourite ever loco!' You have been led astray Peter. By those wot don't read the whole of what my typing digit has said. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, great northern said: You have been led astray Peter. By those wot don't read the whole of what my typing digit has said. Ah!!! I have a good excuse..................I am called Clive. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted June 28, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Ah!!! I have a good excuse..................I am called Clive. You were also the Peter perpetrator. He jumped to conclusions because you had done so previous like. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwordsmith Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Dion't blame me I'm just a good follower!. Anyway I like AL5s, but not as much as AL6's 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2750Papyrus Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Klondike and K2, for reasons stated above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I'd have to go for the C1. First of the wide firebox, plenty of steam, lively ride and pull anything tradition which kept the ECML going for sixty years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2020 I am concerned at our host's reference to ragwort. It is potentially lethal to horses, albeit in extended consumption, and thus a most unsavoury weed to mention in a thread about a railway so fond of racehorses. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzer Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 C1 passenger and K1 “Ragtimers” goods, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Stop using invisible ink then! Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted June 28, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Oldddudders said: I am concerned at our host's reference to ragwort. It is potentially lethal to horses, albeit in extended consumption, and thus a most unsavoury weed to mention in a thread about a railway so fond of racehorses. The connection goes like this Ian. Clive's wife keeps horses, and one of his jobs, almost never ending it seems, is to keep removing the ragwort in their paddocks. I don't think Clive likes ragwort any more than horses do. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Oooh! Ragwort in his paddocks - that sounds very nasty. Can he get tablets for it? Stewart 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium thegreenhowards Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 5 hours ago, 2750Papyrus said: Klondike and K2, for reasons stated above. Me too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted June 28, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2020 Today was spent being idle, I didn't even go out for a walk. This does not concern me one bit. I did run a few trains though, and watched a programme about people not finding a yeti. Images are of happenings on the Up main. First we have Gayton Hall, ready to leave with the 4.32 to Harwich. after which, a J6 came through with yet another trip working from New England to East. 26 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) G'Day Folks I'm going for a Small Atlantic, as they led to the Large Atlantic, goods is a little harder, for that I'll go for the J3, they had long non exciting lives, but did a lot of hard work. manna Edited June 28, 2020 by manna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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