RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted July 28, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2021 A five minute wait for the 2P to get its breath back after the climb from East, and off it goes on its way. 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, great northern said: Here is Leicester's venerable 2P, 40452, shortly to be on its way home, a journey it will have made many times before. Good morning Gilbert, I trust you're keeping well. What an interesting loco. I'm making assumptions here (a dangerous practice) but it looks like a Hornby 2P which has been altered to represent a Midland-built 2P, with RH-drive (can I just see where the boiler has been filled-in on this side?). The tender has certainly been changed if it is an ex-RTR 2P. I assume this is kit-built? Or, is it a Bachmann tender? My compliments to whoever did the work. Regards, Tony. Edited July 28, 2021 by Tony Wright to add something 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted July 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, BMacdermott said: Tkangs Fhil My euyes aree 100% pufekt nuw amd I kan see tfe kaybooard souperbly weell. Brian PS Seriously, Phil, many thanks for your concern. I can honestly say that I am 100% happy with the result in all respects. I have a pair of very old glasses that are 95% good. I just have to wait for an optician appointment for new prescription glasses in about a month, then I'll be back to where I haven't been for about 18 months. It wasn't 'seriously bad' but needed doing. As a BR safety film put it about 50 years ago "You're wearing your last pair of eyes now!" So pleased things have gone as expected. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Oldddudders said: As a BR safety film put it about 50 years ago "You're wearing your last pair of eyes now!" So pleased things have gone as expected. There was the poster with a similar message ‘you can always get another pair of goggles’. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, great northern said: A five minute wait for the 2P to get its breath back after the climb from East, and off it goes on its way. Hi Gilbert What is the origin of the Midland 54ft third behind the 483 class loco? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2021 Good morning. For this poll, I’m voting for, 2, 4, 5, and 11. The D2’s worked some Hull to York trains and would be useful for myself, and the D16 Claude Hamilton would come in useful too - one was used on a railtour through Market Weighton in 1957. The K2 would be great to see RTR, and is a good class of engine. Finally, the A1/1, although controversial, to say the least, it would make a fascinating model along with plugging a gap in the ECML pacifics. Rob. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted July 28, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2021 9 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Good morning Gilbert, I trust you're keeping well. What an interesting loco. I'm making assumptions here (a dangerous practice) but it looks like a Hornby 2P which has been altered to represent a Midland-built 2P, with RH-drive (can I just see where the boiler has been filled-in on this side?). The tender has certainly been changed if it is an ex-RTR 2P. I assume this is kit-built? Or, is it a Bachmann tender? My compliments to whoever did the work. Regards, Tony. I am indeed well, thank you Tony. I've been meaning to ring you for ages. Could you tell me when would be convenient please? The 2P is Tim's work, taking a Hornby loco, substituting a Bachmann tender, and making it look at least more like the real thing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted July 28, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2021 8 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: Hi Gilbert What is the origin of the Midland 54ft third behind the 483 class loco? Larry Goddard built and painted it from one of his own range of kits, Clive. Probably took him about half a day. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted July 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2021 Ooops, nearly missed this poll! I shall go for 1, 4, 5 and 7. 1 and 4 more for sentimental reasons as being elegant locos rather than ones which would fit the theme of my layout, although if I was ever to turn back the clock and get my 1930s stock out again, they would fit in well. 5 - K2 - possibly quite rare in London by the roughly 1958-1961 'window' of my layout but there were still a few about, and would make a nice model. 7 - B2 - I've been on about making one of these for years; have a Hornby B17 lined up to be a donor and (most of) a Crownline conversion kit, and various other useful bits & pieces but have mainly been put off by the thought of painting the BR Lined Green livery! So an RTR one would be very welcome. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted July 28, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2021 Back to Pacifics, in the form of 60028, heading the 1000 Up Leeds. 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodcock29 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 for me Brian Initially I wasn't going to vote this time as I've got all these covered, well maybe not quite I don't have a fully valenced D16/3 and my D3 is currently being built with its extended smokebox for a superheated version. However, if any of these were to come onto the RTR market I'm sure I couldn't resist a nice LNER version lined out in red! Or indeed a Royal Claud in green. Andrew 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted July 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 29, 2021 Final Call for Votes - PN 00 Loco Mini-Poll No.3: Passenger – Tender Hello everyone A reminder that your 'Polling Station' closes at 1700 today with Results expected during tomorrow. If you haven't already voted, here’s what to do: 1. You may vote for any or all of the 12 items listed plus a response to item 13 (if you so wish) 2. They must be items with a ‘PN connection’ and which you would realistically wish to buy if made RTR at ‘affordable prices’. 3. Submit your entries on this thread simply as (for example): 2, 4, 5 – with comments and explanations following. 4. If you vote by PM, please only list your selection of numbers without explanations. 4-4-0 & 4-4-2 1 GNR C2 Atlantic 2 GNR D2 3 GNR D3 4 GER/LNER D16/3 Claud Hamilton – Decorative valance (in range 62501-62620) 2-6-0 5 GNR K2 (61720-61794) 6 LNER K3 (61800-61992) 4-6-0 7 LNER B2 (in range 61603-61671, but many are B17) 8 GER/LNER B12 (in range 61501-61563, but some are B12/4 and most are B12/3) 9 GER/LNER B12/4 (in range 61500-61532 but some are B12 and most are B12/3) 4-6-2 10 LNER A1 (60114-60162) 11 LNER A1/1 (60113) 2-8-2 12 LNER P2 Streamlined Style Nos.2003-2006 & Rebuilt Nos.2001/2 13 Your suggestions of locos not listed above. (They must have a ‘PN Connection’) Please give the company, wheel arrangement and class number (as per the list above). Get your thinking caps on and get voting! I will acknowledge receipt of your vote via the ‘Thx’ tick box. We look forward to your selections and comments! Brian & Chris (Note: These are ‘informal Polls for fun’ on Gilbert’s thread only and neither The 00 Wishlist Poll Team nor RMweb are specifically involved, apart from Chris and me in a ‘personal capacity’.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lek Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Hi folks, I'm finding this thread fascinating as I also plan to model Peterborough North station, once I have managed to complete my attic conversion, although I will be modelling it as it was in the '80s; my teenage years and the era I started my interest in the railway. Of course, by then the canopy had been removed and there was a further platform added. I have a good collection of diesel locos which were often seen in Peterborough in the 1980s, as well as a few steam locos (by then were only doing chartered runs; Mallard, Flying Scotsman, etc.). I also remember the 08 shunter that would often be seen resting around the side of the ticket office behind platform 1. I've managed to find a few photos of the station in the '80s, but always interested to find more, with details such as the signals, I know lights were in use by the '80s, but I can't recall if the older semaphore signals were still in place. I will make a fresh thread once my loft conversion is underway and I can get started on the layout. I'll be modelling a few landmarks north of the station too - I'm still swithering whether to do Marholm crossing as the level crossing with signal box (where Walton station once was), or the concrete bridge which replaced it at the beginning of the '80s. Also, I would like to mention what a marvellous job @great northern has done on Crescent Bridge and the ticket office / platform buildings. However, after trawling through the thread, can't find anything on how they were modelled, of course by the '80s, neither the platform buildings nor the bridge had changed much, so I'd be interested in using the same design & techniques for my layout. Thanks @great northern for keeping this post active, I'll be taking some time out to read the entire thread in full. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted July 29, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2021 Two A4s for the price of one this morning. Walter K approaches the platform, while Sir Murrough is still waiting for the Galsgow to arrive. Tim was here yesterday, bearing goodies as usual, more of which later. 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 60027Merlin Posted July 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 29, 2021 No. 5 (K2) - Only one suitable for further north and Peterborough North plus not available r-t-r. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Brian, my voting goes:- 4,5,7 and 10 As a confirmed locoholic, I have restrained myself to those that are essential in my terms. I must not weaken, I must not......... Anthony 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted July 29, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2021 Right, on to the goodies. The main purpose of the day was to run as many of the trains as possible, and to cure annoying derailments and sundry loco faults. That was entirely successful. There also arrived in Tim's backpack two locos. Both have been seen on PN before, but there have been changes.... First up is an A1, one of the earliest Bachmann models. We know that because when Tim took it apart, it turned out to have the original underpowered motor. I would have sworn that I had taken Bachmann up on their offer to remotor all A1s, but obviously I missed this one. It has functioned for many years in the guise of 60133 Pommern, but I don't like that name much, and it was still in standard Bachmann green, so I asked for it to be Timmed, and for it to become Osprey, a much nicer name. The photos we found for 1958 showed it to be in normal Copley Hill condition, for which read dirty. We had previously discussed trying to capture locos which were in a condition of filth, but where it could be seen that they had been green when they left the paint shop, so that was the brief for this one. As always, Tim was up to the task. The other arrival was my A5, 69808, which had been out of action for a long time. It had been built in 2000 with a live chassis, and DCC did not like that. Tim effectively rebuilt the chassis, though there is still more to be done. Equally vital though was to make this look a lot more like an A5 than the Craftsman kit does as built, the smokebox door being bulbous and totally unlike any that the GCR put on its locos. So here it is, Timmed inside and out, looking like an A5, and given a proper weathering job. I'm so pleased with this that you get more than the usual angles. This was an engine which my uncle drove regularly at Boston, and I know I have been in the cab of the real thing, probably when it was dead on shed on a Sunday. That smokebox door always spoiled it for me, so it is great to see it as it should be. I even took another angle of Osprey. As usual, I will leave Tim to do the explaining as to how these were transformed. 24 1 12 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lek Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 I hope my post earlier today wasn't seen as hijacking the thread. Apologies if so. After reading further, I've noticed the discussion has since moved on from the topic of building the setup to running the trains. I'll make my own thread when I get started on mine. Again, apologies my post was not on topic with the most recent posts, I hadn't read the entire thread before posting. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2750Papyrus Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Beautiful weathering, and good to see an A5. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted July 29, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 hours ago, Lek said: I hope my post earlier today wasn't seen as hijacking the thread. Apologies if so. After reading further, I've noticed the discussion has since moved on from the topic of building the setup to running the trains. I'll make my own thread when I get started on mine. Again, apologies my post was not on topic with the most recent posts, I hadn't read the entire thread before posting. Not at all. We bounce around all over the place on here. Reading the whole thread would be a considerable feat in itself! Very little of the old set up was left by the 1980s. The frontage was completely new, the old island platform gone completely, as were all the station buildings. If there were any semaphore signals left at all, it would only have been within what remained of New England yard. So, all that would be left of what is on my model would be the two bridges, the Great Northern hotel, and the Up Platform itself. All of my buildings and the bridges were made by master builder and craftsman Peter Leyland, though Crescent Bridge is formed around a Roco bridge kit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted July 29, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2021 Here comes Gannet with the Glasgow. The photographer will have a very short life if he keeps standing in places like this. It makes quite a dramatic picture though. 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, great northern said: Here comes Gannet with the Glasgow. The photographer will have a very short life if he keeps standing in places like this. It makes quite a dramatic picture though. Or is a very short man and can duck under the approaching train? 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted July 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2021 Results – PN 00 Loco Mini-Poll No.3: Passenger – Tender Hello everyone Many thanks to the 17 voters who took part. The number of votes to each item is shown in the left hand column and Comments Received are appended on a PDF as usual. Please note that the results reflect the views of those who voted here and may not necessarily reflect those of the wider modelling community. High Polling 11 K2 (61720-61794) 10 B2 (in range 61603-61671, but many are B17) 9 D16/3 Claud Hamilton – Decorative valance (in range 62501-62620) Middle Polling 7 A1/1 (60113) 6 D2 4 D3 4 K3 (61800-61992) Low Polling 3 C2 Atlantic 2 A1 (60114-60162) 1 P2 Streamlined Style Nos.2003-2006 & Rebuilt Nos.2001/2 0 B12 (in range 61501-61563, but some are B12/4 and most are B12/3) 0 B12/4 (in range 61500-61532 but some are B12 and most are B12/3) Your suggestions of locos not listed. (They must have a ‘PN Connection’) 2 60503/60504. 1 M&GN Class A 1 D52 1 D53 1 D54 1 GC D9 1 Ex-GC 4-6-0 1 Ex-NE Atlantic 1 A2 1 A2/1s The Overall Top-to-Bottom Results of the three loco Mini-Polls will follow very shortly. Brian & Chris (Note: These are ‘informal Polls for fun’ on Gilbert’s thread only and neither The 00 Wishlist Poll Team nor RMweb are specifically involved, apart from Chris and me in a ‘personal capacity’.) Mini-Poll PN Loco No.3 Passenger Tender Comments Received.pdf 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted July 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2021 Overall Results, Top-to-Bottom, PN 00 Loco Mini-Polls Nos.1-3 Hello everyone As promised, here are the Overall Results, Top-to-Bottom. We hope you have enjoyed the Loco Mini-Polls but – importantly – that we have all learned from the experience. High Polling 12 J6 (64170-64279) 12 J39 (64700-64988) 11 J67/J68/J69 (68491-68666) 11 K2 (61720-61794) 10 B2 (in range 61603-61671, but many are B17) 9 A5/1 (69800-69829) 9 D16/3 Claud Hamilton – Decorative valance (in range 62501-62620) 9 B16/1 (in range 61410-61478, but some are B16/2 or B16/3) Middle Polling 8 B16/3 (in range 61420-61468, but some are B16/2 and most B16/1) 8 C12 (67350-67399) 8 J17 (65500-65589) 8 J52 (68757-68889) 8 N1 (69430-69485) 8 N4/N5 (69225-69247, 69250-69370) 7 A1/1 (60113) 7 B16/2 (in range 61435-61457, but some are B16/3 and most B16/1) 6 O4/8 (in range 63573-63915 with gaps) 6 J20 (64675-64699) 6 D2 5 N2 (69490-69596) Low Polling 4 D3 4 J19 (64640-64674) 4 K3 (61800-61992) 3 C2 Atlantic 2 A1 (60114-60162) 2 P1 Nos.2393 & 2394 1 P2 Streamlined Style Nos.2003-2006 & Rebuilt Nos.2001/2 0 B12 (in range 61501-61563, but some are B12/4 and most are B12/3) 0 B12/4 (in range 61500-61532 but some are B12 and most are B12/3) Brian & Chris 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2750Papyrus Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Thanks very much to Brian and Gilbert for these polls. I'm scratching my head to try and think of another! Infrastructure came to mind but I can't get much further than somersault signals, water columns and fencing (already available from Isinglass). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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