Tony Wright Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Sandhole said: Interesting about the axle loading Gilbert. I have a soft spot for V2s. I run a Jamieson kit-build one . Yes, I know there are problems with the kit. It was built using a photo of one I saw at York, as a boy. Can I run it at Manc/Oldham Rd.? Yes. There was one freight diag, that came to Manc. over the Calder Valley route. The loco was so close to being overweight, that it got sent back by return as a light engine, if there was no return load. That's how I justify my ancient kit built V2. XO4, worm and gear drive and all. I love her. Regards, Chris. Good evening Chris, May we see your Jamieson V2, please? I know Gilbert's thread is really about Peterborough North, but I'm always fascinated to see others' work. I'm sure if Gilbert objects, he'll tell us. I built this Jamieson V2 in 1979. It's on Wright writes as well, where V2s are also being discussed. Despite its age, it still sees service. Just because Jamieson kits are old, doesn't mean they can't still be built into 'acceptable models, does it? I built this one about three years ago, making a DMR tender to go with it (which, as can be seen, has the correct disc wheels). Yes, there are deficiencies. I've since closed the gap at the bottom of the boiler prior to its being painted, but I should have carved off that ugly smokebox dart and replaced it with a separate one. Gilbert has shown us how good the forthcoming new Bachmann RTR V2 is. It's certainly superior to this pair, but will it mean I'll build no more V2s from whatever source? No. Regards, Tony. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 I'll dig her out and post a shot tomorrow. Regards, Chris. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Sandhole said: I'll dig her out and post a shot tomorrow. Regards, Chris. Thanks Chris, If you don't want to clutter up Gilbert's thread, please post it in Wright writes in MM&M. Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 She's thirty years old now. I bought her, part built at Banbury show, I think in the late 80s. She was built for me by a Jamieson master Brian Wiltshire. Coachbogie's Dad. He was a kit building mentor to me and is much missed. She's basic, but I love her. Chris. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Awful photo, sorry. Chris. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 I meant to ask, are Bachmann going to produce the different variants of the V2.? Double chimney, inside steampipes as well as the variant illustrated. Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted September 11, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Sandhole said: I meant to ask, are Bachmann going to produce the different variants of the V2.? Double chimney, inside steampipes as well as the variant illustrated. Chris. In this first batch, inside steampipes in BR black and apple green. I've no doubt they will do a double chimney version at some stage, as they have in the past with the original model. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted September 11, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2021 Tonight's image shows Deltic rumbling away at Platform 2, and 60501 about to pass it on its way home with the 2.10 KX- York and Hull. 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted September 12, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2021 A quick move round to the other side reveals the B17 to be Gayton Hall, which will be coming off here, and will be replaced by a Midland engine. If we had a poll to find the best view on PN, I reckon this one would be hard to beat. 29 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted September 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2021 22 hours ago, Oldddudders said: Well, bully for the manager trying to put the punter on the path of righteousness. A thankless task at the best of times. I was in a model shop, and picked up a Hornby Maunsell in olive livery, and another in BR(S) green. I was told in no uncertain terms that these were from very different periods - true. I had to point out that Hornby's versions of malachite green and BR(S) green on their Maunsells are identical to most eyes, and so I could remove the BR(S) lettering and apply Southern equivalents, thus having two vehicles which would have been seen together post-war..... He did look a little crestfallen, and I heard the lad on the till snigger! Hello everyone Further on this subject... I was once in a model shop which was owned by a respected GWR modeller. A customer was saying that he had a 14xx loco and was looking for 'something passenger' for it to haul. As one would expect, the owner showed the customer a B-set and an Autocoach - dutifully explaining the ins and outs of both types. What did the customer buy...? Half a B-set! The owner glanced across the shop to me and we both rolled our eyes. Brian 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium thegreenhowards Posted September 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, great northern said: A quick move round to the other side reveals the B17 to be Gayton Hall, which will be coming off here, and will be replaced by a Midland engine. If we had a poll to find the best view on PN, I reckon this one would be hard to beat. It’s good Gilbert and certainly shows off your station buildings. But for me the best view is down trains departing taken from the bridge at the North end. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted September 12, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2021 60501 again this evening, in black and white, and resting at Platform 3. This has been a frustrating day. I have to change the identity of my lovely new V2, as it is too late for 1958, so I've been looking for suitable locos that it could become. There weren't all that many with outside steam pipes by 1958, and I soon found that most of those that had them were north east based, the majority at Heaton. Was there some secret arrangement between that shed and Darlington works, I wonder?As Heaton engines were rarely seen south of New England, they were out, and when I narrowed it down more I was left with just three to choose from, 60821 of Grantham, 60856 of York, or 60859 of Copley Hill. I have plenty of southern area V2s, so a York one for the KX Goods to Dringhouses Class Cs seemed a good idea. I'd already spent some time looking for a 1958 image of 60856, but neither my quite extensive book collection nor the Internet came up with any. This afternoon though I found one more book I had overlooked, and there was a 1959 photo of 60856...... with a flared tender. The one I reviewed, and which I get to keep, has a straight sided one of course. Tracking back to 856's last overhaul, it became clear there wouldn't have been a tender change between then and 1959, so that's that. 184 engines,and only 11 flared tenders. One of those stayed with the same engine all its life, so there were only 10 that could frustrate me, and against high odds, one did. So 60859 it will be. That shed did also have braked goods diagrams to London, and I have a good and relaible image showing it with a straight sided tender in my period, so that's OK. Took quite a while to get there though. 14 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Don't you love it, when a plan comes together. Chris. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted September 13, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 A dull and dismal morning, hopefully brightened up a little by another look at 60501. 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 10/09/2021 at 15:25, Woodcock29 said: The V front to the cab is strange as it appears Bachmann have moulded a 'boiler band' to the front of the V adjacent to where it meets the firebox. This is not evident in any prototype photos. I'm not sure black and white lining will hide that. However, if like some other recent Bachmann models the body can be disassembled it might be possible to remove it? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) The front smokebox door hinges are also missing the distinctive "horns" that limit the opening: In fairness to Gilbert I guess we should be commenting on this model in a Bachmann thread rather than clutter up Peterborough North. Edited September 13, 2021 by MikeTrice 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted September 13, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, MikeTrice said: I've had another look while wearing my extreme close up glasses, and with plenty of light. I think the answer is quite simply that the two components, firebox and cab, just don't meet up absolutely flush. I got my Hornby A2/2 out and looked at the join on that, and once again, there is just a very slight gap. Something the manufacturing process can't quite deal with, maybe? With a kit built loco, one would deal with this with filler or soldering of the seam, but neither can be done with plastic, I think. Not very well phrased, was it? Even I wouldn't try to solder plastic. Edited September 13, 2021 by great northern to correct stupidity 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 08/09/2021 at 08:08, manna said: G'Day Folks This may be a A2/2.........but, interesting. manna Well, I was completely not hunting for it, but after seeing this photo on Saturday, the following last segment of video struck me as VERY familiar! Just magic stuff. The link is time cued so should play right at the appropriate time. If not, it is the very last scene, around 24:50. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodcock29 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 5 hours ago, MikeTrice said: A most interesting photo. Thanks Mike looks like I was wrong about the 'band' on the edge of the V. The only time I've seen 4771 was my first trip back to UK in 1981. The photos then were slides although I took a range of views I've not yet bothered to find them - looks like I should! Its interesting the handrails are black - I've always imagined they were green on the green parts of a loco. Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 4 hours ago, 69843 said: Well, I was completely not hunting for it, but after seeing this photo on Saturday, the following last segment of video struck me as VERY familiar! Just magic stuff. The link is time cued so should play right at the appropriate time. If not, it is the very last scene, around 24:50. The stock in the A2/2s train is incredible! Is that a Coronation twin at the front, still in blue and white livery, followed by a Thompson corridor in painted teak livery, as well as two Gresley sleeping cars? Remarkable. Chris. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted September 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Sandhole said: The stock in the A2/2s train is incredible! Is that a Coronation twin at the front, still in blue and white livery, followed by a Thompson corridor in painted teak livery, as well as two Gresley sleeping cars? Remarkable. Chris. and a 'Banker'? If so, why? P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Mallard60022 said: and a 'Banker'? If so, why? P Good question, I wondered that too. Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted September 13, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 Here comes the Flying Scotsman, and a very famous A4, which should have been preserved. 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted September 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) On 13/09/2021 at 10:11, MikeTrice said: I think the problem (and there is a problem) is that Bachmann have made more of a 'feature' of this than exists on the prototype. They have made the piece (handily painted black on 4771) in two parts, one on the firebox the other on the cab. The cab part is far too heavily rendered (heavier than the previous model). This significantly alters the look of the cab. This visual issue plus the issue with the smokebox, the chunky looking rods and valve gear plus the small looking cabside windows (and the curious choice of glazing the second window) have led me to cancel my pre order. Not saying I wont buy one but want to see it in the flesh first. The tender wheel mistake is disappointing and should have been picked up. The price is what the manufacturer chooses to charge, I have no issue with that but it is strong when compared to the newly announced Brush Type 4/ Class 47 which has a significantly higher specification and greater attention to detail than is evident with the V2. Edited September 14, 2021 by MikeParkin65 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted September 14, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 A head on view of Silver Link now, which confirms that I still can't get lamps on straight, and that the bl***dy platform signal has moved again somehow. I'm not going to fix it down when I know that it will be replaced in due course. 23 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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