Peterborough North

[manna 13,691]

G'day Folks

 

I think the Catterick Camp leave train was a 'Runs as required' type of train.

 

manna

[thegreenhowards 6,092]

15 hours ago, great northern said:

Lots of food for thought. While I'm digesting it, here are the promised photos of the West Hill Wagon Works replacement NEM pocket for Bachmann MK1 bogies. Much delayed, as Royal Mail lost the first batch, and took several days to get the replacements to me.

 

 

 Original on right, just undo the screw, remove assembly, replace with Hunt, screw in, and job done. Pocket will accept Hunt's own, as seen here, or either kadees or tension locks. I also did one of my best Willets Gresleys, on which a little filing and fettling was needed, but only a couple of minutes work, and job done.

Gilbert,

 

That looks good and could provide a solution to many coaches, not just Bachmann Thompsons. 
 

One question if I may. I’m thinking of converting my loose stock over as it would make coupling the rakes up much easier. Are you converting your loose stock? If so, how are you coping with the end coach? I am planning to keep tension locks for the end of my rakes because so many of my locos have a TW style ‘goal’. I initially assumed I’d just leave a tension lock on the end but the brakes often go in the middle of the train and then I’m stuffed! Any thoughts?

 

Andy

[great northern 125,056]

The 5.00pm from KX has arrived, it is formed as a MK1 5 set, but was often Pacific hauled, as today, when Happy Knight has the easy task.

 

 

we also have another plonk.

 

 

[great northern 125,056]

1 hour ago, manna said:

G'day Folks

 

I think the Catterick Camp leave train was a 'Runs as required' type of train.

 

manna

Both my WTT and CWN show it as a regular train in summer 58, and the stock was required for an early SO departure from KX, so I think on balance it is OK as I do it. Anyway, I decide what is required, don't I?

[great northern 125,056]

37 minutes ago, thegreenhowards said:

Gilbert,

 

That looks good and could provide a solution to many coaches, not just Bachmann Thompsons. 
 

One question if I may. I’m thinking of converting my loose stock over as it would make coupling the rakes up much easier. Are you converting your loose stock? If so, how are you coping with the end coach? I am planning to keep tension locks for the end of my rakes because so many of my locos have a TW style ‘goal’. I initially assumed I’d just leave a tension lock on the end but the brakes often go in the middle of the train and then I’m stuffed! Any thoughts?

 

Andy

Nearly all of my locos have kadees at buffer beam height, so we both have the same problem. At least short term I have quite a lot of stock, mainly brakes, which has a kadee at one end. After my reorganisation I now have more loose stock though, and so I do have brakes with Hunts at both ends when needed in the middle of a formation.

 

This new box from Hunt will also mean that I can start to get rid of kadees in the middle of formations too, assuming the spares continue to be available. I think it will be a long time before I can completely standardise on Hunts though.

[TrevorP1 2,708]

2 hours ago, thegreenhowards said:

Gilbert,

 

That looks good and could provide a solution to many coaches, not just Bachmann Thompsons. 
 

One question if I may. I’m thinking of converting my loose stock over as it would make coupling the rakes up much easier. Are you converting your loose stock? If so, how are you coping with the end coach? I am planning to keep tension locks for the end of my rakes because so many of my locos have a TW style ‘goal’. I initially assumed I’d just leave a tension lock on the end but the brakes often go in the middle of the train and then I’m stuffed! Any thoughts?

 

Andy

 

I haven't got anything like the number of vehicles that Gilbert and others have but for what it's worth I have a small number of vehicles that are kept to run at the rear of trains. They do not have any working couplings and I'm working towards them having dummy screws, hoses, gangway covers and lamps.

[jwealleans 10,940]

While Gilbert contemplates, here's something to amuse you for about 15 minutes.  I'm not sure whether PN features, some of the locations we haven't identified.

 

https://mirc.sc.edu/islandora/object/usc:34684

 

These are the outtakes; shame we haven't tracked down the final film yet.

[manna 13,691]

G'Day Folks

 

The Catterick train, maybe in the Working Timetable, but that would also be a 'Pathing' purpose's, the train itself could still be 'runs as required'.

 

manna

[Flying Fox 34F 524]

2 hours ago, jwealleans said:

While Gilbert contemplates, here's something to amuse you for about 15 minutes.  I'm not sure whether PN features, some of the locations we haven't identified.

 

https://mirc.sc.edu/islandora/object/usc:34684

 

These are the outtakes; shame we haven't tracked down the final film yet.

Jonathan,

 

A great selection of outtakes. PN is present.  The footage runs from under the Crescent bridge, past the Power Station then over the Nene River Viaduct. There are a selection of carriages below on the approaches to the East station as the train passes over the viaduct.  There are also scenes at Hitchin, Woodwalton, Helpston, Lolham. No prizes for Welwyn!!!!  The curious little snippet is of GNR Somersaults signals with either an ex GER D13 or D14 passing on the opposite.  A lovely sight.

Anyway, I’ve spotted that most of the footage has been recorded from the back of a train, but then played backwards. The PN section implies the train is moving south on the Down Slow line??????

If you find anymore, I’d love to see it.

 

All the best

 

Paul

 

[great northern 125,056]

2 hours ago, jwealleans said:

While Gilbert contemplates, here's something to amuse you for about 15 minutes.  I'm not sure whether PN features, some of the locations we haven't identified.

 

https://mirc.sc.edu/islandora/object/usc:34684

 

These are the outtakes; shame we haven't tracked down the final film yet.

That's really interesting Jonathan, thanks very much. Carriage heaven for you, the first few minutes? Definitely PN, as Paul says, but the first time I've seen the view from a train heading South from Platform 6.

[great northern 125,056]

30 minutes ago, Flying Fox 34F said:

Jonathan,

 

A great selection of outtakes. PN is present.  The footage runs from under the Crescent bridge, past the Power Station then over the Nene River Viaduct. There are a selection of carriages below on the approaches to the East station as the train passes over the viaduct.  There are also scenes at Hitchin, Woodwalton, Helpston, Lolham. No prizes for Welwyn!!!!  The curious little snippet is of GNR Somersaults signals with either an ex GER D13 or D14 passing on the opposite.  A lovely sight.

Anyway, I’ve spotted that most of the footage has been recorded from the back of a train, but then played backwards. The PN section implies the train is moving south on the Down Slow line??????

If you find anymore, I’d love to see it.

 

All the best

 

Paul

 

You identified a bit more than I could Paul. The PN sequence shows a train leaving from Platform 6 and heading south. I thought at first it was heading for the chord down to East, but then came the views further down the ECML. I wonder if they were actually part of a different sequence.

[great northern 125,056]

2 hours ago, manna said:

G'Day Folks

 

The Catterick train, maybe in the Working Timetable, but that would also be a 'Pathing' purpose's, the train itself could still be 'runs as required'.

 

manna

I suppose then KX would have to find the stock for the next morning's northbound working?

[Flying Fox 34F 524]

6 minutes ago, great northern said:

You identified a bit more than I could Paul. The PN sequence shows a train leaving from Platform 6 and heading south. I thought at first it was heading for the chord down to East, but then came the views further down the ECML. I wonder if they were actually part of a different sequence.

Gilbert,

 

I agree the sequence of scenes is out of order, but I suspect the on train sections have been played in reverse. The views seem to be from the back of a train. There is one section where the train enters a small station on the wrong line in the wrong direction. The signals on the adjacent line reinforce my thoughts.

 

Paul

Edited November 4, 2020 by Flying Fox 34F
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[great northern 125,056]

Another Friday only train, the 6.10 KX- Leeds, with A1 Bois Roussel coming under Crescent Bridge.

 

 

and another plonk, featuring the poor guy who still doesn't know what to do with his parcel.

 

 

[TrevorP1 2,708]

I like the bottom photo with the van. Very effective. I genuinely did a double take, thinking it was the real thing.

[jwealleans 10,940]

9 hours ago, Flying Fox 34F said:

The footage runs from under the Crescent bridge, past the Power Station then over the Nene River Viaduct. There are a selection of carriages below on the approaches to the East station as the train passes over the viaduct.  There are also scenes at Hitchin, Woodwalton, Helpston, Lolham. No prizes for Welwyn!!!!  The curious little snippet is of GNR Somersaults signals with either an ex GER D13 or D14 passing on the opposite.  A lovely sight.

 

Thank you for that, Paul.  We watched it through last Friday and I hadn't had chance to go back to it since.  We thought that sequence was moving south from Peterborough, but I wouldn't have spotted the smaller stations.  Hitchin and Welwyn were easy enough and we think the NER 4-4-0 and clerestories may be at Selby. 

 

I have my work cut out identifying all the horseboxes in that one train although there are a fair few GN examples and what we think is a GE right at the rear.

 

Weeks of watching and researching to come.

 

 

[great northern 125,056]

Close up of Bois Roussel to start the day.

 

 

and another plonk.

 

 

[Gravy Train 3,730]

12 hours ago, great northern said:

Another Friday only train, the 6.10 KX- Leeds, with A1 Bois Roussel coming under Crescent Bridge.

 

 

and another plonk, featuring the poor guy who still doesn't know what to do with his parcel.

 

 

Gilbert, that photo is just so realistic, fabulous

[great northern 125,056]

16 hours ago, Flying Fox 34F said:

Gilbert,

 

I agree the sequence of scenes is out of order, but I suspect the on train sections have been played in reverse. The views seem to be from the back of a train. There is one section where the train enters a small station on the wrong line in the wrong direction. The signals on the adjacent line reinforce my thoughts.

 

Paul

I've had another look at it, and I'm still not sure what is going on. The PN bit cuts out just as the train is approaching points, but they seem to be set for the route down to East. The film then carries on down the main line though. Im sure I have seen Huntingdon, and then a sequence that looks like the Ouse at Offord, and further on a signal box name that seems to be Cadwell. Then we have Hitchin and Digswell, which would be logical. In between though it goes north from PN, and in addition to Helpston I think there is Walton on that stretch of line too. Some other bits look familiar, but I can't put a name to them.

[great northern 125,056]

I'm still pondering over what we could do to lighten the mood during lockdown, but I did take note of those who said they enjoy pictures of carriages. The 6.10 Down Friday only is a West Riding relief, and features nearly the same formation as the Catterick leave train. It is also shown as working out of KX quite early the following morning, another summer Saturday only job. Here it is.

 

 

Edited November 5, 2020 by great northern
to put pictures in!

[David Bell 2,127]

5 hours ago, great northern said:

I'm still pondering over what we could do to lighten the mood during lockdown, but I did take note of those who said they enjoy pictures of carriages. The 6.10 Down Friday only is a West Riding relief, and features nearly the same formation as the Catterick leave train. It is also shown as working out of KX quite early the following morning, another summer Saturday only job. Here it is.

 

 

These are brilliant. 

Love the pictures of train formations

Cheers

David

 

[great northern 125,056]

Your evening image features Galtee More, and the Heart of Midlothian.

 

 

[juke 53]

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Your evening image features Galtee More, and the Heart of Midlothian.

 

That's a great picture Gilbert. The sky is very natural and the loco has superb weathering. I like the lamps, Modelu?

 

Syd

 

[great northern 125,056]

9 hours ago, juke said:

 

That's a great picture Gilbert. The sky is very natural and the loco has superb weathering. I like the lamps, Modelu?

 

Syd

 

Thanks Syd. That is Tim's latest weathering job, and the lamps are Lanarkshire Models from Dave Franks.

[great northern 125,056]

I'm behind with photoshopping again, so this morning's image is another for coachoholics. Gresley Dia 1 FK, by Willets and Studley.