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2 hours ago, great northern said:

These high level views from Spital Bridge always seem to be popular, so here are a couple more at slightly different angles.

 

 

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I love the K3 shots. I hadn’t realised New England had any left by 1958 but they do make a nice change.

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39 minutes ago, thegreenhowards said:

I love the K3 shots. I hadn’t realised New England had any left by 1958 but they do make a nice change.

Just five left in 58, and they rarely worked south of New England, but I reckon this is the sort of duty they might have been diagrammed for. I have a photo of an Immingham K3 coming under Crescent Bridge with a Class C, which the caption says is 58. The loco has the late crest, so it may well be correct. I think so long as one doesn't overdo the unusual and turn it into the norm, there isn't a problem. I can't find a Class C working which would have been an Immingham job from KX, but the photo shows that it happened, and the loco got down to London somehow first, didn't it?

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5 hours ago, great northern said:

Just five left in 58, and they rarely worked south of New England, but I reckon this is the sort of duty they might have been diagrammed for. I have a photo of an Immingham K3 coming under Crescent Bridge with a Class C, which the caption says is 58. The loco has the late crest, so it may well be correct. I think so long as one doesn't overdo the unusual and turn it into the norm, there isn't a problem. I can't find a Class C working which would have been an Immingham job from KX, but the photo shows that it happened, and the loco got down to London somehow first, didn't it?

I’m sure lots happened which wasn’t diagrammed. Look at all the Gresley and Thompson coaches in rakes which should be all mark 1. I cheat by moving my year to the early fifties when I want to run a K3 or O2!

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30 minutes ago, great northern said:

Two locals waiting for the off tonight. The Ivatt will as far as South Lynn, or possibly all the way to Melton Constable.

 

 

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and a close up of Seagull, which will go just 29 miles to Grantham.

 

 

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My favourite A4. No idea why!

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On 05/11/2020 at 16:55, great northern said:

I'm still pondering over what we could do to lighten the mood during lockdown, but I did take note of those who said they enjoy pictures of carriages. The 6.10 Down Friday only is a West Riding relief, and features nearly the same formation as the Catterick leave train. It is also shown as working out of KX quite early the following morning, another summer Saturday only job. Here it is.

 

 

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Your coach rakes are an inspiration!

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On 05/11/2020 at 16:55, great northern said:

I'm still pondering over what we could do to lighten the mood during lockdown, but I did take note of those who said they enjoy pictures of carriages. The 6.10 Down Friday only is a West Riding relief, and features nearly the same formation as the Catterick leave train. It is also shown as working out of KX quite early the following morning, another summer Saturday only job. Here it is.

 

 

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Question.
You run a lot of Kirk Gresleys don't you?
I have a mass of these coaches in a painted sides ready to assemble.
Have you put separate door handles and grab handles on them? Thanks to my near death experience during lockdown and the fact that I think the handles on the sides look good when painted, I'm going to build these sides, as is.
They will obey the belt and braces rule and my mortality has been impressed upon me.
Would appreciate your opinion, please.

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2 hours ago, Sandhole said:

Question.
You run a lot of Kirk Gresleys don't you?
I have a mass of these coaches in a painted sides ready to assemble.
Have you put separate door handles and grab handles on them? Thanks to my near death experience during lockdown and the fact that I think the handles on the sides look good when painted, I'm going to build these sides, as is.
They will obey the belt and braces rule and my mortality has been impressed upon me.
Would appreciate your opinion, please.

I actually only have eight Kirks, four corridor and four non corridor. I sold a lot on years ago, which I regret now, actually. They were built over 30 years ago, so I had to go and have a look at them. Two of four corridor cars have handles, as do two of the non corridors . The others have none, so I reckon that I must have decided after doing the full job a few times that I'd had enough of it!  I did have to look quite closely to spot the difference just now.

 

Most of my Gresley stock is either professionally built, or resided Hornby cars, so they do have everything they should have. I wouldn't be able to see the handles now, let alone fit them.

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3 hours ago, Sandhole said:

Have you put separate door handles and grab handles on them? Thanks to my near death experience during lockdown and the fact that I think the handles on the sides look good when painted, I'm going to build these sides, as is.

 

Far be it from me to try to dictate to anyone how to build their stock, but if you stick with the mouldings then you'll only have door handles and not the commode handle beside them.  I think those are one of the easiest and most effective ways to lift Kirk sides.  All of mine, especially the ones used on Grantham have been enhanced in that way.

 

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16 minutes ago, jwealleans said:

 

Far be it from me to try to dictate to anyone how to build their stock, but if you stick with the mouldings then you'll only have door handles and not the commode handle beside them.  I think those are one of the easiest and most effective ways to lift Kirk sides.  All of mine, especially the ones used on Grantham have been enhanced in that way.

 

Thank you, I will bear that in mind.
All my coaches are vestibules bar one. That makes the job one heck of a sight easier.

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58 minutes ago, great northern said:

I actually only have eight Kirks, four corridor and four non corridor. I sold a lot on years ago, which I regret now, actually. They were built over 30 years ago, so I had to go and have a look at them. Two of four corridor cars have handles, as do two of the non corridors . The others have none, so I reckon that I must have decided after doing the full job a few times that I'd had enough of it!  I did have to look quite closely to spot the difference just now.

 

Most of my Gresley stock is either professionally built, or resided Hornby cars, so they do have everything they should have. I wouldn't be able to see the handles now, let alone fit them.

Your last point is relevant to me.
I have put handles on my articulated suburban set and the BSL artic corridor set.
My coaches are all vestibules bar one.
I'll give it some serious thought.
Thank you Gilbert, as always, you have been very helpful.

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Good evening, Gilbert. I’ve been looking through the good book by Hugh Longworth, British Railways Pre Nationalisation Coaching Stock, Volume 2, SR and LMS. In pages 407/8, the LYR Hughes, non corridor thirds are covered, to diagram 98. 54’ 0” x 8’ 10 1/2 “. 25tons 15 cwt. M15204M, is one from lot number N31. It was introduced in 1921, (no other information is given), and withdrawn in October, 1959. The original number was 13860. 
A fascinating subject, railway carriages.

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

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