drmditch Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) O1 (as using frames from an O4) please. I also like the O4/8, which looks very much as if it was the 2-8-0 the NER never quite built. If I understand correctly it was the condition of the cylinders which determined whether an O4 (in one of it's several variants) got given a new 100A boiler to become an O4/8, or also given the standard B1 type cylinders and valve gear to become a full-fledged O1. The O1s came out very well in the 1948 comparisons as well. Edited April 15, 2021 by drmditch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2021 For today’s poll the class O1. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzer Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Now here’s a thought to conjure with : If Bullied had not gone to the Southern, he would have been CME instead of Thompson . One can only guess what we might have seen if Bulleid had been given a free hand on some of the rebuilds ! As it was Thompson was really only fourth choice for the job, so in wartime conditions and with only a few years before retirement he was always going to be a bit of a lame duck in terms of anything truly innovative. He was ,by all accounts an aloof man , very difficult to get on with, who would tolerate any dissent, and not a natural leader of me. He doesn’t seem to have been a hands on man so it’s questionable how much personal input he had to the designs, as opposed to general oversight, just as Riddles doesn’t seem to have had much personal input to the BR standard designs. However if he is to be given credit for anything it would be for his move towards standardisation after inheriting a variety of different classes. Standardisation seems to have been a bit of a closed book to Gresley and Bullied. So balancing all these factors my vote goes to the O4/8, which probably don’t owe much to Thompson in terms of design, but they are a product of his standardisation programme with the successful B1 boiler cylinders and cab. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2021 Tyne Dock O1 with Air Pumps. Con Sett. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jollysmart Posted April 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2021 01 for this poll did the job, well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted April 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2021 Yup, 01 for me too, they did a good job on the Tyne Dock trains before 9F's were designed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted April 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2021 I am going for the 04/8, I know it looked half finished but that is the appeal and they were successful/usefull. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 1 hour ago, jazzer said: Standardisation seems to have been a bit of a closed book to Gresley and Bullied (sic). People say that, but that overlooks the limited resources Gresley had to work with which meant he was restricted to building minimal numbers of locomotives each year. He never had the sweeping scrap and build brief Stanier did. Nonetheless, if you look at the number of locomotive classes on the LNER in 1923 and 1940 you'll find he'd dramatically reduced them. 289 J39s and 184 V2s suggests he was happy to stick to a single design if it suited the purpose and the budget. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodcock29 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 O1 for me. With its B1 cylinders and outside Walschaerts it looked modern. Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted April 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2021 I'll go for the 01 too. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted April 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2021 I've got a Class 01, made it all by myself. Bespoke chassis and artisan crafted body. 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) Oi! You'll get afor that... Edited April 15, 2021 by LNER4479 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Metropolitan H Posted April 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2021 Another vote for the O1 here. Regards Chris H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted April 15, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2021 46 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: I've got a Class 01, made it all by myself. Bespoke chassis and artisan crafted body. Can't be yours, it has been painted. 1 2 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted April 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2021 I am going to change my mind on what Thompson freight loco to vote for. How could I forget the DEJ-1, later D3/9 then D3/10. Another bespoke chassis, couldn't use a 08 or similar chassis as Mr T made his N-gins have a 3 inch longer wheelbase. The body was bunged together by some fat bald bloke out of left over plastic card. 9 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted April 15, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2021 Under the roof, the B1 slowing for the stop meets the J6, which is waiting to remove its empty stock. and to celebrate the victory of its class in the recent poll, another look at the B1. 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 O1 for me please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 14 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: I am going to change my mind on what Thompson freight loco to vote for. How could I forget the DEJ-1, later D3/9 then D3/10. Another bespoke chassis, couldn't use a 08 or similar chassis as Mr T made his N-gins have a 3 inch longer wheelbase. The body was bunged together by some fat bald bloke out of left over plastic card. "These were ordered at an Emergency Board Meeting on 19th February 1941, shortly before Gresley's death." So, in terms of the timeline, actually a Gresley engine. Officer, arrest that man! 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted April 16, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2021 Still focusing on 61098, for our first view this morning. Then on the Up, Doncaster A1 Kings Courier appears with the White Rose. 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted April 16, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2021 Easy win for the 01, with 9 votes. Today I am asking which was the most successful BR standard class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denbridge Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, great northern said: Easy win for the 01, with 9 votes. Today I am asking which was the most successful BR standard class. Without a doubt the 9F. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2021 I’ll also vote for the 9f in today’s poll. Such a successful design, but cut so short by the ending of steam on BR. Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikks Posted April 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2021 As usual I'll hedge my bets.........9F/Brit Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2021 Yes, even my limited understanding of steam says the design of the 9F was almost too good. Hence the ridiculous occasional use of them on high-speed passenger services, where 5' drivers do not often venture, but where they did the biz very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted April 16, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2021 Without doubt the 9F. 93mph on a passenger train (Gerry Fiennes) or the Tyne Dock iron ore, where they were driven 'full engine' - full cut off, full regulator, sending coals to the moon. (Peter Handford's record recommended) Magnificent machines. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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