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10 hours ago, BMacdermott said:

PN 00 Loco Mini-Poll No.1: Freight Types

 

Hello everyone

 

Welcome to the first of three planned Mini-Polls concerning locos with a connection to Peterborough North. The title is Freight Types, but we appreciate that some were used on passenger too. It is simply to differentiate from the other two Mini-Polls (which are Passenger – Tank and Passenger – Tender). I am running the Mini-Polls on behalf of Gilbert, but with the kind assistance of Chris Knowles-Thomas.

 

It is often impossible to be ‘deadly precise’ with a 1-line descriptor as many classes were altered over the years. We take the view that ‘if it looks like a J52, it probably is a J52’. Recent past experience is showing that makers are ‘tooling up’ to make as many variants as they can for any new model.

 

You can submit your wishes here, on the thread, as usual, or PM me direct if you prefer the ‘secret ballot’ method.

 

If you vote on the thread, please feel free to explain why you have chosen your selection – hopefully, that will promote some interesting debates – but please do not take it as an excuse to start up the old chestnut of ‘kits vs RTR’!

 

Here’s what to do…

1 You may vote for any or all of the 12 items listed plus a response to item 13 (if you so wish)

2 They must be items you would realistically wish to buy if made RTR at ‘affordable prices’.

3 Submit your entries on this thread simply as (for example): 2, 4, 7, 9, 10 – with comments and explanations following.

4 If you vote by PM, please only list your selection of numbers without explanations.

 

0-6-0T

1   GNR J52 (68757-68889)

2   GER J67/J68/J69 (68491-68666)

 

0-6-0

3   GNR J6 (64170-64279)

4   GER J17 (65500-65589)

5   GER/LNER J19 (64640-64674) 

6   GER/LNER J20 (64675-64699)

7   LNER J39 (64700-64988)

 

4-6-0

8   NER B16/1 (in range 61410-61478, but some are B16/2 or B16/3)   

9   NER/LNER B16/2 (in range 61435-61457, but some are B16/3 and most B16/1)

10 NER/LNER B16/3 (in range 61420-61468, but some are B16/2 and most B16/1)

 

2-8-0 & 2-8-2

11 GCR/LNER O4/8 (in range 63573-63915 with gaps)

12 LNER P1 Nos.2393 & 2394

 

13 Your suggestions of any locos with a 'PN connection' not listed above.

Please give the company, wheel arrangement and class number (as per the list above).

 

Get your thinking caps on and get voting! I will acknowledge receipt of your vote via the ‘Thx’ tick box.

 

You have until midnight on Wednesday 14 July. However, I will stop earlier and advise if votes reach 50. I will present the results during the day on Thursday 15 July.

 

We look forward to your selections and comments!

 

Brian & Chris

(Note: These are ‘informal Polls for fun’ on Gilbert’s thread only and neither The 00 Wishlist Poll Team nor RMweb are specifically involved, apart from Chris and me in a ‘personal capacity’.)

Bearing in mind, my votes have a North West bias.
Locos seen in Manchester from the Calder Valley and or the Woodhead.
My votes are, therefore.
8, 9, 10, 11.
O4/8 is essential for my Manchester based layout, the B16's appeared at the end of their lives when two arrived at Mytholmroyd.
B16/3's could be seen, occasionally on the Standedge line on fitted freight.

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Re: Freight (and Mixed Traffic) Locomotive Types.

Please may I vote for 7, 8 ,9 and (I suppose I should really)  10.

 

My locomotives need to be in LNER livery, and I should perhaps say that my railway has no real  relation to the superb PN.

(Except of course being linked by some 183 miles of main line railway, and I am quite prepared to regard the ex-GN mainline after 1923 as the NER London Branch!)

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Well, this is most interesting, and, firstly, my votes are as follows:

1, J52, 

3, J6,

4, J17,

7, J39,

8, B16/1,

9, B16/2,

10, B16/3,

11, O4/8.

I believe all of those would be of use on Peterborough North, plus I like those classes too. I’d dearly love to see RTR’s of all of them, and would purchase them without hesitation. Especially, though, the J6, J39, B16/1, and O4/8.

 

Rob.

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 My choice would be the following,  J6,  J17,  J39,  J52, J67/J68/J69, GCR/LNER O4/8. Would buy them all if and when available RTR to current standards.

 

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G'Day Folks

 

I'm going for.

 

3, J6, all GN layouts need at least one, which I have, but I'll have another.

 

6, J20, UK's biggest 0-6-0, why wouldn't I.

 

12, P1, Great under-rated loco.

 

A Good D2, would be on my wish list.

 

manna

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4 minutes ago, manna said:

G'Day Folks

 

I'm going for.

 

3, J6, all GN layouts need at least one, which I have, but I'll have another.

 

6, J20, UK's biggest 0-6-0, why wouldn't I.

 

12, P1, Great under-rated loco.

 

A Good D2, would be on my wish list.

 

manna

I’d also love a D2, but I was saving that for the passenger list.

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19 minutes ago, thegreenhowards said:

I’d also love a D2, but I was saving that for the passenger list.

OK, I'll change that to a Q1, I know it's a bit early for Gilberts, PN, but they did work through PN for 30 years.

 

manna

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A great poll Brian.  Can I vote for 1. J52, I have a Hornby body and comet chassis plus super detail kit to do one for Wakefield West, 3. J6 because I have built 3 now and think they are a very under-rated loco, 7. the J39 is ubiquitous in the area I model and the Bachman one is quite dated, though I do have a kit one to put together and finally 11. O4/8 because I am a lazy b*gger who probably can’t be bothered hacking at a Bachman jobby just yet.

 

Cheers

Tony

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16 hours ago, PaulG said:

4   GER/LNER J20 (64675-64699) A nice to have, but with its very long wheelbase, not sure its for the r-t-r market.

Paul

 

Hello Paul and everyone

 

Sorry for slight delay in coming back on this item...

 

A Poll Team colleague had to dispose of some kit-built locos for the wife of a deceased friend recently. One was a J20 which came to me. It goes round 2nd radius curves with consummate ease so - I would guess - a manufacturer would be able to make a RTR version do the same.

 

Brian

 

 

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13 hours ago, great northern said:

Ivatt 4s always seem to get photographed incoming, so I decided to show one on the way out. The carriages are going to Yarmouth Beach, but the locomotive only as far as South Lynn.

 

 

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That weathered Gresley brake is a work of art.
Regards,
Chris.

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On 11/07/2021 at 08:51, BMacdermott said:

PN 00 Loco Mini-Poll No.1: Freight Types

 

Here’s what to do…

1 You may vote for any or all of the 12 items listed plus a response to item 13 (if you so wish)

2 They must be items you would realistically wish to buy if made RTR at ‘affordable prices’.

3 Submit your entries on this thread simply as (for example): 2, 4, 7, 9, 10 – with comments and explanations following.

4 If you vote by PM, please only list your selection of numbers without explanations.

 

0-6-0T

1   GNR J52 (68757-68889)

2   GER J67/J68/J69 (68491-68666)

 

0-6-0

3   GNR J6 (64170-64279)

4   GER J17 (65500-65589)

5   GER/LNER J19 (64640-64674) 

6   GER/LNER J20 (64675-64699)

7   LNER J39 (64700-64988)

 

4-6-0

8   NER B16/1 (in range 61410-61478, but some are B16/2 or B16/3)   

9   NER/LNER B16/2 (in range 61435-61457, but some are B16/3 and most B16/1)

10 NER/LNER B16/3 (in range 61420-61468, but some are B16/2 and most B16/1)

 

2-8-0 & 2-8-2

11 GCR/LNER O4/8 (in range 63573-63915 with gaps)

12 LNER P1 Nos.2393 & 2394

 

13 Your suggestions of any locos with a 'PN connection' not listed above.

Please give the company, wheel arrangement and class number (as per the list above).

 

Get your thinking caps on and get voting! I will acknowledge receipt of your vote via the ‘Thx’ tick box.

 

You have until midnight on Wednesday 14 July. However, I will stop earlier and advise if votes reach 50. I will present the results during the day on Thursday 15 July.

 

We look forward to your selections and comments!

 

Brian & Chris

(Note: These are ‘informal Polls for fun’ on Gilbert’s thread only and neither The 00 Wishlist Poll Team nor RMweb are specifically involved, apart from Chris and me in a ‘personal capacity’.)

Hi Brian,

 

My votes as follows:

 

0-6-0T

2   GER J67/J68/J69 (68491-68666)

 

0-6-0

7   LNER J39 (64700-64988)

 

13  LNER K2 2-6-0

 

My votes are a little limited, on the basis of your criteria of what I would realistically buy.

 

Unlike the J52, the J69s were quite widespread - I believe they were regarded as a 'standard' LNER engine for shunting duties, eg Trafford Park shed Manchester for shunting ex-CLC goods yards

 

J39 similarly, unlike the others which were more parochial

 

K2?(!) Or is that going to feature in the 1st passenger poll? (in which case I withdraw my comment, other than to highlight the Scottish K2s (the 'Lochs') which again have greater appeal as there were seen outside their native GNR territory. Also seen on ex-GER lines, I understand.)

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44 minutes ago, LNER4479 said:

 

Unlike the J52, the J69s were quite widespread - I believe they were regarded as a 'standard' LNER engine for shunting duties, eg Trafford Park shed Manchester for shunting ex-CLC goods yards.

 

No Pre-Grouping shunting interludes at Central then? Very restrained!

 

Simon

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56 minutes ago, LNER4479 said:

K2?(!) Or is that going to feature in the 1st passenger poll? (in which case I withdraw my comment, other than to highlight the Scottish K2s (the 'Lochs') which again have greater appeal as there were seen outside their native GNR territory. Also seen on ex-GER lines, I understand.)

 

Hello LNER4479

 

Yes, the K2 will be in the Passenger - Tender Mini-Poll.

 

Brian

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21 minutes ago, 65179 said:

 

No Pre-Grouping shunting interludes at Central then? Very restrained!

 

Simon

There's a picture of one at work in the goods yard alongside the station in one of the Foxline books ... but I think it's LNER era. But - hey - it's close enough. I'd buy one RTR for that reason alone.

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37 minutes ago, LNER4479 said:

There's a picture of one at work in the goods yard alongside the station in one of the Foxline books ... but I think it's LNER era. But - hey - it's close enough. I'd buy one RTR for that reason alone.

The 4 allocated to Trafford Park to shunt Deansgate Goods for a period in GN days were what I was thinking of. Were you thinking of the LNER J54 photo?

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