Peterborough North

[thegreenhowards]

27 minutes ago, great northern said:

Time for another of our occasional look at what's behind the tender, and the 6.35 Hull certainly has an unusual mix.

 

 

 

 

 

I love the Thompson kitchen car and Gresley FO - Such elegant vehicles .

[great northern]

Ten minutes later, the 6.45 Cleethorpes has arrived.

 

 

The Ivatt 4 in the bay will be off to Melton Constable at 8.30pm.

[great northern]

And after its five minute stop, 61098 continues on its way to Cleethorpes..

 

 

[great northern]

Now we come to something I do remember well, as this train actually arrived during Clive's visit a couple of weeks ago, sending him into paroxysms of delight over what he somewhat deludedly referred to as a " proper" engine. One just has to remember that people just can't help these things. The train is another Leicester local, the last one of the day.

 

 

[great northern]

The 5.15 Up Hull brings yet another A3, this time KX stalwart Hermit.

 

 

[thegreenhowards]

23 minutes ago, great northern said:

The 5.15 Up Hull brings yet another A3, this time KX stalwart Hermit.

 

 

It looks like interesting stock on the Hull Gilbert. My CWN shows it as mainly Mark 1 but it’s one of those secondary expresses which I imagine would have featured older substitutes. Do you have a photograph to base this on?

[great northern]

Hermit again this morning, getting a bit closer.

 

 

[great northern]

14 hours ago, thegreenhowards said:

It looks like interesting stock on the Hull Gilbert. My CWN shows it as mainly Mark 1 but it’s one of those secondary expresses which I imagine would have featured older substitutes. Do you have a photograph to base this on?

Just taken from the summer 58 CWN, Andy. I doubt it was a much photographed train. Just the TSOs, FK and BSO are shown as being MK1. RK/FO came off at Doncaster, except on Fridays, when they went on to Hull. Next workings for those shown as 1145 Leeds-KX, except Saturday, when they were part of the 1115 Filey-KX, as was the rest of the rake, save for the leading BZ and BG. Weekdays, apart from the BZ, next duty was the 1715 Hull-KX.

[thegreenhowards]

2 hours ago, great northern said:

Just taken from the summer 58 CWN, Andy. I doubt it was a much photographed train. Just the TSOs, FK and BSO are shown as being MK1. RK/FO came off at Doncaster, except on Fridays, when they went on to Hull. Next workings for those shown as 1145 Leeds-KX, except Saturday, when they were part of the 1115 Filey-KX, as was the rest of the rake, save for the leading BZ and BG. Weekdays, apart from the BZ, next duty was the 1715 Hull-KX.

I’m even more confused now! Is this an up or down train? I thought it was the 1715 Hull-KX which I have as predominantly Mk1. There is a similarly timed down train where the catering comes off at Donny. Is that what we’re looking at?

 

Andy

[great northern]

50 minutes ago, thegreenhowards said:

I’m even more confused now! Is this an up or down train? I thought it was the 1715 Hull-KX which I have as predominantly Mk1. There is a similarly timed down train where the catering comes off at Donny. Is that what we’re looking at?

 

Andy

My fault as usual Andy. I thought you were referring to the train which I photographed in full, not the one I posted yesterday and today, which is indeed the 1715 Up Hull. So yes, I gave all the details of the 1835 Down in error.

[great northern]

No more confusing Hulls for a while. Instead we have the first New Clee fish.

 

 

[great northern]

The other side of the fish now. Rather more of interest in this one, I think.

 

 

I really must go to the opticians. Those lamps!

[great northern]

One more look at the B1 and the fish, now passing the Ivatt 4, which is just beginning its journey.

 

 

This morning I have looked at the B1 again, as it is still sitting in the fiddle yard. From normal viewing distance, and using an ordinary human eyeball, it is difficult to see anything wrong with the lamps at all.

[great northern]

The nightly procession of coal trains to London is now under way, and another WD trundles through at the start of its duty.

 

 

Just the six lattices to photoshop on this one.

[great northern]

Now something good to report. A fellow past captain of the golf club mentioned to me a couple of weeks ago that he has a 10 year old grandson who is mad keen on trains, and asked if he could bring him to see my layout. They came yesterday, and the lad is terrific. He seems to know a good deal, and about the days of steam too. He could quickly identify classes of loco when I ran them, and was just generally impressive in his general knowledge, and desire to learn more.

 

I've offered to reach him how to operate the layout with me, and he seems very interested in doing that too. Grandad is building a little layout for him too, so I gave them some old magazines and Freezer books which I had lying around. Nice, intelligent and well behaved lad, and I'm now a bit more optimistic that there is still some hope of the hobby carrying on when us old uns have all fallen off the perch.

 

It wasn't till they had gone that I wondered why he wasn't at school on a week day though.

[great northern]

Quite a lot of B1s around lately, and here comes another one, a New England engine, about to terminate with the 5.52 slow from KX.

 

 

[great northern]

The 5.05 from Newcastle now appears. Well kept 60044 Melton of KX leads it through, non stop.

 

 

[thegreenhowards]

23 hours ago, great northern said:

 

It wasn't till they had gone that I wondered why he wasn't at school on a week day though.

Probably self isolating!

[great northern]

4 minutes ago, thegreenhowards said:

Probably self isolating!

Yes, I thought of that too, but his grandad is a friend, and a good guy, so I don't think he would have allowed that.

[thegreenhowards]

2 hours ago, great northern said:

Yes, I thought of that too, but his grandad is a friend, and a good guy, so I don't think he would have allowed that.

I was joking in this case, but it is a reason that lots of kids are off and they don’t all stay at home.

[great northern]

The classic view of an approaching Up train, when taken from the Down platform, often included part of the bracket signal, so it isn't surprising that when I go for that shot, it is visible too. The problem is that because of necessary compression, I can't get the camera far enough away to avoid in being somewhat out of focus, as can be seen here.

 

 

I've done my best with this, but it isn't very good. This is a really nice view, and one I want to carry on using regularly, but would it be better if I just erased the signal, even though it should be there?  All opinions gratefully received.

[Woodcock29]

9 minutes ago, great northern said:

The classic view of an approaching Up train, when taken from the Down platform, often included part of the bracket signal, so it isn't surprising that when I go for that shot, it is visible too. The problem is that because of necessary compression, I can't get the camera far enough away to avoid in being somewhat out of focus, as can be seen here.

 

 

I've done my best with this, but it isn't very good. This is a really nice view, and one I want to carry on using regularly, but would it be better if I just erased the signal, even though it should be there?  All opinions gratefully received.

Gilbert

I like the view and one option is to simply crop the top so making it a nice wide photo with not much sky.

Andrew

[great northern]

7 minutes ago, Woodcock29 said:

Gilbert

I like the view and one option is to simply crop the top so making it a nice wide photo with not much sky.

Andrew

I hadn't considered that. Here's how it would appear. What do folks reckon? Is it now a bit too narrow?

 

 

[31A]

I don't mind the signal being there actually.  As you say, it appears in a lot of pictures taken at Peterborough station so it helps to set the scene.  Also adds a bit of interest in the left hand corner!

Edited November 21, 2021 by 31A
Typo!

[Metropolitan H]

1 minute ago, great northern said:

I hadn't considered that. Here's how it would appear. What do folks reckon? Is it now a bit too narrow?

 

 

That is superb - especially as you don't see the west "fall off the cliff" end of Spital Bridge.

 

Inerestingly, the offending signal is not there in my Father's pictures from the Down Platform in the late 1930s (pre-WW2, when grandfather was sitll at North Box)..

 

Regards

Chris H