Peterborough North

[great northern]

Gilbert, it has been my experience that sometimes one should step back and leave things alone for a week or so, then revisit.  In the past it has amazed how something I though/visualised as wrong turned out to be more or less correct.  I suggest that sometimes we reach a point when we loose our objectivity.  Don't mean to preach, but just my thoughts based upon a couple of personal projects, one of which actually resulted in a completely different approach that ended up being much better.

Thanks JIm. In the end I have done just that, and in fact I shall now leave them as they are until le canard next visits. After all, two heads are better than one. Or a head and a beak in this case. They will most definitely remain anyway. I should not post things immediately after something has given me grief, should I?

 

In the end, common sense will be applied, if I can find some. Different camera angles suggest different heights for the poles, both individually and in conjunction with each other, so it is never going to be exactly right, and if it were it would probably look wrong, if you see what I mean.

 

Further exciting developments may take place shortly by the way, but until they do, I'm saying no more...... except that I think they will have an equally important impact as regards the scene as a whole.

[bigwordsmith]

Gilbert,

I hope you don't mind me asking here, but given the high quality of guests you attract, indeed you may even be able to answer the question, but I'm wondering if anyone has a very easy to understand guide for wiring up double slips using A point motor and switch to get the right polarity on the frog?

 

I'm trying to wire up the Former Tetleys point work you kindly sent through, but it doesn't matter what I do, I seem to get a short circuit!

 

I have now managed to solder two fingers, painfully, so any help would be very much appreciated. I have looked at the DCC Concepts diagram, but found that just as confusing.

 

The pics just get better!

 

Many thanks,

 

Peter

Edited July 7, 2015 by bigwordsmith

[Mallard60022]

Gilbert,

I hope you don't mind me asking here, but given the high quality of guests you attract, indeed you may even be able to answer the question, but I'm wondering if anyone has a very easy to understand guide for wiring up double slips using A point motor and switch to get the right polarity on the frog?

 

I'm trying to wire up the Former Tetleys point work you kindly sent through, but it doesn't matter what I do, I seem to get a short circuit!

 

I have now managed to solder two fingers, painfully, so any help would be very much appreciated. I have looked at the DCC Concepts diagram, but found that just as confusing.

 

The pics just get better!

 

Many thanks,

 

Peter

Have you thought about frog juicers?

Quackers.

[Clive Mortimore]

Gilbert,

I hope you don't mind me asking here, but given the high quality of guests you attract, indeed you may even be able to answer the question, but I'm wondering if anyone has a very easy to understand guide for wiring up double slips using A point motor and switch to get the right polarity on the frog?

 

I'm trying to wire up the Former Tetleys point work you kindly sent through, but it doesn't matter what I do, I seem to get a short circuit!

 

I have now managed to solder two fingers, painfully, so any help would be very much appreciated. I have looked at the DCC Concepts diagram, but found that just as confusing.

 

The pics just get better!

 

Many thanks,

 

Peter

Hi Peter

 

The tie bar, operated by a point motor, at the opposite end to the frog is the one you need to use for the switching of the polarity.

 

 

Any help?

[Theakerr]

I've also heard good words about the hex frog juicers.  I believe someone else now has a similar device out there as well

[bigwordsmith]

Thanks guys, I'm on analog so hadn't thought of a frog juicer as I thought they were DCC only

[Mallard60022]

I've also heard good words about the hex frog juicers.  I believe someone else now has a similar device out there as well

DCC Concepts?

P

[LNERGE]

I found a bit more telephone stuff when i wasn't looking for it..

 

 

[great northern]

Sunday seems to be the only day when I have time to run trains and take photos at the moment, so here are the latest happenings. That A1 has been simmmering away at Platform 2 for some time - bit worrying really, as it was meant to be non stop. I couldn't resist another go at some contre jour shots, but I'm still not very happy with them. Anyway, here they are.

Great fun was had, not, in photo shopping one of the poles, which had a load of books peeping between the struts. Patiently waiting nearby was the South end pilot, so I did a portrait of her too.

I gave up on shopping this one, I'm afraid. The poles will be straightened when a final decision on height is reached. Now we have to go down t'other end, where we see a South Lynn Ivatt 4 reversing along the engine road from New England. The sun ate a water crane.......

Nearly at the point where she can cross over to the Down side and back onto her train in number 4 bay. For some reason I really like this shot.

and now awaiting the right away.

Still waiting. Were they really such ugly engines? Doesn't look too bad to me from this angle.

On the way to Kings Lynn now, and about to pass the starting signal. The other signal in view is not bent, whatever the camera tries to tell you.

Not very glamorous of course, that Ivatt. Can't call it a mucky duck on this thread, can we? He'd be offended. Anyway, we don't get much more glamorous than this, the Tees Tyne Pullman behind an immaculate Top Shed A4.

Our man at the other end of Platform 2 pressed the shutter a bit too soon.

But his mate on Platform 3 did rather better. The poles look about right on this one, don't you think?

And we finish with a nice portrait of a very shiny engine as he glides by at the regulation 20 mph.

 

[bigwordsmith]

Very impressive Gilbert - I quite look forward to your Sundays' work!

 

I thought they were called 'Flying Pigs' not Mucky Mallards, either way it is a bit reminiscent of the USATC S160s we had over here during the war.

[Mallard60022]

Made my day those did. 

Am I the only person that actually likes those Ivatts?

Poles good from that north looking south position as suggested. It's the Beast and southern ones that still need a bit of adjustment (as suggested).

Quackers (used to be mucky when I was a younger duck  drake but now I prefer watching trains).  

[coachmann]

 

Am I the only person that actually likes those Ivatts?

You're not alone. A bloke I knew like them too but he never saw anything when they were all over the M&GN like a rash. It wouldnt surprise me if Ivatt's mate Bulleid had a hand in their design...

[The Blue Streak]

Cracking pictures again thanks Gilbert.

They Cheered me up after the Cricket.

[islandbridgejct]

Made my day those did. 

Am I the only person that actually likes those Ivatts?

You're not the only one. Gilbert would ban me from this thread if I expressed a view on the relative merits of them and the spamcans beautiful A4s from top shed. (Ooops.)

 

Do I sense a coming my way?  

[trw1089]

While mucky ducks or flying pigs are all very nice, that bit of glamour at the end just does it for me, I can just hear it gliding through, the sound of the ejector echoing off the roof while it softly chuffs with the regulator just cracked, the low rumble of heavy Pullmans. So evocative those shots, I can just about picture myself on the platform while the majestic train continue on its way past, getting a whiff of freshly prepared coffee and the next course to be served (are we at breakfast or tea time in the sequence? I wasn't sure if I smelled bacon or sausages as it wafted through...)

 

Thanks Gilbert, always good shots but this lot is just superb!

 

Cheers

Tony

[great northern]

You're not the only one. Gilbert would ban me from this thread if I expressed a view on the relative merits of them and the spamcans beautiful A4s from top shed. (Ooops.)

 

Do I sense a coming my way?

Not at all. This is an open and inclusive thread, to which all persons ( and ducks) are welcome, whatever unfortunate delusions they may currently be suffering from

[stewartingram]

While mucky ducks or flying pigs are all very nice, that bit of glamour at the end just does it for me, I can just hear it gliding through, the sound of the ejector echoing off the roof while it softly chuffs with the regulator just cracked, the low rumble of heavy Pullmans. So evocative those shots, I can just about picture myself on the platform while the majestic train continue on its way past, getting a whiff of freshly prepared coffee and the next course to be served (are we at breakfast or tea time in the sequence? I wasn't sure if I smelled bacon or sausages as it wafted through...)

 

Thanks Gilbert, always good shots but this lot is just superb!

 

Cheers

Tony

What about that beautiful chime whistle though?

 

Bittern-15122007-york.mp3

 

(My ringtone on my phone)

Stewart

[great northern]

While mucky ducks or flying pigs are all very nice, that bit of glamour at the end just does it for me, I can just hear it gliding through, the sound of the ejector echoing off the roof while it softly chuffs with the regulator just cracked, the low rumble of heavy Pullmans. So evocative those shots, I can just about picture myself on the platform while the majestic train continue on its way past, getting a whiff of freshly prepared coffee and the next course to be served (are we at breakfast or tea time in the sequence? I wasn't sure if I smelled bacon or sausages as it wafted through...)

 

Thanks Gilbert, always good shots but this lot is just superb!

 

Cheers

Tony

It is the Down train Tony, left KX at 4.50pm and timed to creep through PN at 6.03, and a half.  The patrons will be well into the main course by now, I should think, or even onto the post prandial liquid refreshment. What a journey for a railway enthusiast. Sitting in the lap of luxury, and still daylight on arrival at Newcastle at this time of year. Probably best not to yell "cop" or "scrap it" though.

[great northern]

Today's weather reminds me strongly of childhood holidays on the Lincolnshire coast. That fine drizzle which you can hardly feel, but which soaks you in a surprisingly short time. No outdoor pursuits then, so time for one of my sporadic bits of modelling. I keep looking at the lovely triplet set which our duck so kindly made for me, and thinking that I really should get on with my part of the job. A package arrived from Southern Pride Models the other day, and removed one of my excuses for doing nothing, And so, work commenced.

This will be the interior of the first class carriage, and I'm working from the Isinglass drawing, which shows the seats as well set back from the windows. That means either that extremely generous leg room was provided, or that the Southern Pride seats are a bit underscale. Whatever, it won't matter, as little will be visible when the body goes back on. All I need now is some 4mm scale cutlery, correct for the 1950s of course, and a reminder of the correct colours for seats and carpets. Seats should I'm almost sure be blue in first class, but what about the rest of the decor? I've looked in Harris, and In Parkin, but can't find the answer. Can anyone help please?

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And we finish with a nice portrait of a very shiny engine as he glides by at the regulation 20 mph.

Needs a little something to finish the scene I think.

 

Care to illuminate me on it Gilbert?

[Mallard60022]

I've had a look through my stuff and I reckon you will get away with:

First Diner. Dark blue seating with white head rests (were they called Antimacassers?). A slightly lighter blue floor and teak wall panels if you can see them. White tablecloths of course. Curtains; probably Blue? Teak vestibules (with brown floor?).

Third Diner. Orangy brown seating. Brown carpets. Teak panels.  Teak vestibules with brown floor. Don't know about curtains in 2nd class.

Underside of both roof mouldings in white/cream throughout.

I suspect Larry G  might know better.

Quackers.

[coachmann]

When I 'decorated' my Gresley 1st class Dining Car, I was told the fabric was green not blue. I had a bookmarked page of coach interiors in colour but it has disappeared.

Edited July 13, 2015 by coachmann

[The Stationmaster]

I've had a look through my stuff and I reckon you will get away with:

First Diner. Dark blue seating with white head rests (were they called Antimacassers?). A slightly lighter blue floor and teak wall panels if you can see them. White tablecloths of course. Curtains; probably Blue? Teak vestibules (with brown floor?).

Third Diner. Orangy brown seating. Brown carpets. Teak panels.  Teak vestibules with brown floor. Don't know about curtains in 2nd class.

Underside of both roof mouldings in white/cream throughout.

I suspect Larry G  might know better.

Quackers.

The antimacassar is a separate cloth placed over the centre part of the headrest only, the remainder of the headrest is in the usual upholstery colour.  (They first became widespread in the Victorian era; the original purpose of the antimacassar was to prevent the headrest becoming stained by macassar oil - an increasingly popular hair treatment for gentlemen from the early 19th century into the Edwardian age).

[Mallard60022]

When I 'decorated' my Gresley 1st class Dining Car, I was told the fabric was green not blue. I had a bookmarked page of coach interiors in colour but it has disappeared.

Yes I think they were when originally built Coach. However I believe they had changed to more 'standard' BR interior coach seating fabric by 1958.

Phil

[great northern]

Can someone help me please? I am faced with this instruction while downloading something. "Click finish to start".