Peterborough North

[Market65]

I use HMRS myself with reasonable results. Waterslide transfers, for me, tend to have me turning the air blue.

 

With regards,

 

Market65.

[bigwordsmith]

Nice to see the sun actually does shine over Peterborough - sadly it is forgetting to do so ver Sussex today and SWMBO, Pepper and I are supposed to be going caravanning to Kent this weekend!

 

On the subject of transfers, I've never been able to get on with prefix et al and have always found waterslides far easier. That said there is a technique, which involves very careful use of water to lift the transfer and float it into place on the model, then slowly draw off the water with capillary action from a tissue - toilet paper works best. This then causes the transfer to sit down onto the paint surface and you can normally - if you get the hydration right - do the final location before gently applying the tissue to the top of the transfer and removing all the H2O

 

It takes a bit of practice, and I use a scalpel pint to move the transfer - very carefully, but this technique seems to work for numbers, totems and lining.

 

this shot of my wrongly naked Sea Eagle demonstrates the results.

 

 

[bigwordsmith]

Nice to see the sun actually does shine over Peterborough - sadly it is forgetting to do so ver Sussex today and SWMBO, Pepper and I are supposed to be going caravanning to Kent this weekend!

 

On the subject of transfers, I've never been able to get on with prefix et al and have always found waterslides far easier. That said there is a technique, which involves very careful use of water to lift the transfer and float it into place on the model, then slowly draw off the water with capillary action from a tissue - toilet paper works best. This then causes the transfer to sit down onto the paint surface and you can normally - if you get the hydration right - do the final location before gently applying the tissue to the top of the transfer and removing all the H2O

 

It takes a bit of practice, and I use a scalpel pint to move the transfer - very carefully, but this technique seems to work for numbers, totems and lining.

 

The A4 and A3 in this shot  - on the bottom right - demonstrate the results.

 

 

 

 

[bigwordsmith]

Nice to see the sun actually does shine over Peterborough - sadly it is forgetting to do so ver Sussex today and SWMBO, Pepper and I are supposed to be going caravanning to Kent this weekend!

 

On the subject of transfers, I've never been able to get on with pressfix et al and have always found waterslides far easier. That said there is a technique, which involves very careful use of water to lift the transfer and float it into place on the model, then slowly draw off the water with capillary action from a tissue - toilet paper works best. This then causes the transfer to sit down onto the paint surface and you can normally - if you get the hydration right - do the final location before gently applying the tissue to the top of the transfer and removing all the H2O

 

It takes a bit of practice, and I use a scalpel point to move the transfer - very carefully, but this technique seems to work for numbers, totems and lining. Then you wait 24 hours after leaving the item somewhere warm, dry and dust free, and spray varnish the whole thing 

 

The A4 in this shot is an example of the results I get. And yes it does have the wrong name!

 

Edited August 12, 2015 by bigwordsmith

[Mallard60022]

Gilbert, Pantry glazed, couplings sorted. 
Phil

[great northern]

Gilbert, Pantry glazed, couplings sorted. 

Phil

And done without use of nasty sharp knives and stringy glue, I understand. Please tell me more? Is this process likely to be within the capabilities of a ham fisted, short tempered, disorganised old fool with dodgy eyesight? If so, I'll ask him to do some for me, as he will probably do a better job than I could.

[Mallard60022]

That person you describe has just done it mate...............

Ah, there was use of scalpel I'm sorry to say! There must be a way of avoiding using cutty things of this destructive power?

Krystal Klear adhesive stuff  or the Greenscenes product, as used by Mr Sweet of ANTB, is excellent and requires only a party stick (bet the porn screener won't accept cocktail stick).

Quackers.

[Mallard60022]

Look what I found when looking for a pic of Blue Peter stalling on Honiton Incline.............................

1958 according to caption (on Flicker?

 

interesting poles behind spotter.....

P

Edited August 14, 2015 by Mallard60022

[Richard E]

My dear duck (now is that in the Nottingham vernacular or just being familiar), I think you lost that bet!

 

(bet the porn screener won't accept cocktail stick).

Quackers.

[coachmann]

interesting poles behind spotter.....

Yay, you could see they were plumbers....

Edited August 14, 2015 by coachmann

[Market65]

I see there are some lamps hanging from those poles. Very interesting.

 

With regards,

 

Market65.

[great northern]

Look what I found when looking for a pic of Blue Peter stalling on Honiton Incline.............................

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1958 according to caption (on Flicker?

 

interesting poles behind spotter.....

P

That is very nice Phil, and it strongly reminds me of this.

This one was taken by Tim's Dad in 1958, same engine and I suspect on the same Gateshead duty. She is in the process of moving from the engine line to Platform 4 to await the arrival of the train she will take over, probably either the Heart of Midlothian or the Northumbrian.

 

It would be lovely to think that it was taken on the same day, and that one of the spotters in your photo is Tim's dad, but I think not. The engine seems not to be quite as clean in his shot, and the sky not so overcast, unless it has been bleached out of course. I'd guess though that both photos were taken within a few weeks of each other in July/August 58, Tehran being allocated to a specific 52A duty at that time.

 

Having said that though, I went and checked Yeadon, and found that her last general overhaul was in November 57. It would be surprising if she was still on top link work 10 months later, and even more surprising if a Gateshead engine was as clean as this after that length of time. I'm pretty certain though that Tim's dad told me he was there in 58. Next general was not till May 59, but she did spend nine days in August 58 in Doncaster works for a non classified repair. I wonder if she got some sort of intermediate repair then, and if she also got a good clean. New crest in both photos, so that doesn't help.

 

Those "poles" aren't. I'll amplify that cryptic reply later, but now I am off to chase the little white ball again, while remembering my new mantra. "Golf is fun". Sounds a bit different when said through gritted teeth.

[BR(W)]

Hello, GN, everyone.

 

It's cat-and-pigeons time: my most challenging hypothesis is that the two photographs in question may well have been taken within a few, short seconds of each other; if not, then within the same short period - say, well within one month.

I spend a lot of time (probably too much) forensically examining photographs to ascertain both the degree of concurrency or similarity, and the accuracy of any accompanying caption. Amongst other things, I look for, and study, dependent and independent variables, and although not decisive in themselves, when taken together they can tip the balance of probability one way or the other.

So, in the images in question, 60518's smokebox-dart handles would seem to be in the same position; her coupling is folded back over the draw-hook in both; there is a very similar pattern of lime staining on the boiler beneath the dome; the profile of coal in the tender is similar; and there is a plywood 12t van with an unusually light-coloured roof on the extreme left of the first image, which is again visible behind the tender in the second shot.

 

I repeat, not individually convincing, but taken together - with all the other evidence (weather, lighting, etc.)?

 

Cheers,

 

BR(W).

[Mallard60022]

Could have been taken by same person as it was only pottering at this time. What an amazing coincidence it would be too.

Anyhow, those poles are, I assume, the old supports for the grand Arcade?

Incidentally, has the LNER Society destroyed all photograpohs of poor old Blue Peter on Honoton Incline? The only ones I have are in a book. Cr*p coal and driver error as it should have romped up.

I am, you may be assured, not taking the urine as just the other day, an inexperienced driver managed to stall Tangmere on Hemerdon going east. Interesting thing was that it didn't slip to a halt but just got slower and slower and then came to a complete stand. Apparantly it had to be towed back to Plymuff by a sodding gronk. I have no idea if it then had another go unassisted. Why they didn't have a loco up the back as far as Newhen Arrbutt I really don't know.

Bulleids have to be driven a particular way to climb well and why the support staff were not advising is also a mystery, unless of course certain drivers are stubborn and won't listen? Who knows, who cares? CK does I'm sure.

Quackers

[great northern]

Sunday once more, so time for more pictures. It is all dirty and decrepit stuff again though, I warn you. Sun Castle has been spared the indignity of reversing its stock down to the carriage sidings, so the South end pilot has coupled up. Our photographer has been allowed to do a bit of trespassing, it being a quiet time at present, and has postioned himself to observe happenings in the vicinity of Crescent Bridge.

He turns quickly to get a going away shot.

and succeeds with extraordinary rapidity in nipping under the bridge to get this shot.

Quite a good evocation of an old engine in its last days I reckon. She looks suitably worn out. And why not? She must be getting on towards 70. A few minutes pass, before the sound of another old dear is heard approaching.

This is the Ramsay branch pick up goods on its way back to New England. Things were always a bit behind the times deep in the Fens, and this shot proves it. The last J3 was supposed to have been withdrawn four years ago, but who knows what dinosaurs may be lurking down there?

Can't half move quickly, this photographer. And that tree, for that matter. See below.

That tree wasn't supposed to be there, but it does look quite good, and it prevents the signal from getting bleached out.

An accomplice then winched him up onto Crescent Bridge.

But how he managed to get down here I really don't know. Nothing green and shiny this week folks I'm afraid.

 

Oh, I forgot to mention that when our duck visited last week the poles were cut down yet again. That was the last time though, as we agree that they look abiout right now.

Edited August 16, 2015 by great northern

[thegreenhowards]

Wow Gilbert, I've just finished reading all 330 pages having started in May! What a fantastic layout and your forum is a treasure trove of GN modelling gen. I particularly enjoyed the various debates on coaching stock - pullmans, correct formations etc. and you highlighted that HMRS article on formations in 1958 which I went straight out and bought - invaluable.

 

One question if I may; I am currently building a 5 car steel articulated set (diag 194/5) from Mousa sides for a future late 1950s southern GN layout. I'd love to have an excuse to include one of the original diagram 190 composites in the formation and you mention that the HMRS article shows one of these in use. However, I can only find six sets in the article, five of which have BR Mark 1 CKs, and the final one E18202, which according to my records is a Gresley teak D.130 61ft 6in CK. Have I missed something?

 

 

 

[New Haven Neil]

Decrepit?  DECREPIT? That finest piece of engineering.  Really, I don't know.....harrumph.

 

re the J3 - is it me or is it a little down by the stern?

[Market65]

Hi. The J3 does look as if the body is not quite seated properly on the front of the chassis, and this is something which I've been caught out by myself in the past. I thought the telegraph poles looked a bit different, and I think   you're right that they are now perfect as they are.

 

With regards,

 

Market65.

[New Haven Neil]

Oh yes, agree about the poles - spot on now.

[gwrrob]

Were your ears burning Gilbert.The loco exchanges of 1925 had A1 4474 Victor Wild in South Devon.Here she is at Sandy in the days of colour photography.Maybe you have her in your roster.

 

[Alister_G]

Curiously, that photo makes the footplate and buffer beam look too wide for the wheels - just like a 00 model...

 

Al.

[jwealleans]

Excellent. Times have changed - I bet no-one in 1958 would have dared criticise an old lady like that J3 for having a saggy rear.

 

I was wondering what had happened to the artic twin in the first shot - the carriages don't look to line up correctly over the middle bogie?

 

It must have been cold down Ramsey way this week, or someone's doing a lot of stocking up for the winter.

Edited August 17, 2015 by jwealleans

[Mallard60022]

"Oh, I forgot to mention that when our duck visited last week the poles were cut down yet again. That was the last time though, as we agree that they look abiout right now."

 

Yup, it was quite traumatic....pic courtesy of Beast of the Parish

P

[great northern]

Wow Gilbert, I've just finished reading all 330 pages having started in May! What a fantastic layout and your forum is a treasure trove of GN modelling gen. I particularly enjoyed the various debates on coaching stock - pullmans, correct formations etc. and you highlighted that HMRS article on formations in 1958 which I went straight out and bought - invaluable.

 

One question if I may; I am currently building a 5 car steel articulated set (diag 194/5) from Mousa sides for a future late 1950s southern GN layout. I'd love to have an excuse to include one of the original diagram 190 composites in the formation and you mention that the HMRS article shows one of these in use. However, I can only find six sets in the article, five of which have BR Mark 1 CKs, and the final one E18202, which according to my records is a Gresley teak D.130 61ft 6in CK. Have I missed something?

Great staying power there!  As to your query, I can't at the moment find an answer, I'm afraid. I was sure I'd seen a short compo listed as still being in use, but as you say, the source is not the HMRS article. I may have had another senior moment - they increase all the time - but I'm still more or less convinced that I saw it somewhere. Where though?  Anyway, they still existed, and could therefore have appeared, though I think more likely on the E.Lincs, which was always last in the queue for updated stock, which is why my short composite set is rostered for Grimsby services. If I manage to find my original source, i'll post it on here, and send you a PM.

[great northern]

 

"Oh, I forgot to mention that when our duck visited last week the poles were cut down yet again. That was the last time though, as we agree that they look abiout right now."

 

Yup, it was quite traumatic....post-6662-0-08629500-1311258980_thumb.jpgpic courtesy of Beast of the Parish

P

 

 Isn't that the job lot of wood you bought to build your new baseboards?