Peterborough North

[great northern]

It does seem that today we are going to get very wet. High on the hills to the West of Sheffield is probably not the best place to be. It is a charity event though, so we shall go and support.

 

At PN, Deltic is still having a rest, so 60515 will come past on the way to its stop.

 

 

 

and a litle while later, will be seen at the North end of Platform 3.

 

 

[Bogie]

60515 is one filthy engine!

 

I am not sure though whether I have complimented it or insulted it.

Edited June 7, 2019 by Bogie

[great northern]

Good morning. I shall now tell a quite long and rambling story about yesterday's events, so if you don't wish to know all this stuff, please skip straight to the pictures.

 

Right. Golf yesterday was at the Hallamshire club, high up just west of Sheffield. The forecast was diabolical, but we had been invited by their club captain, who is  a very old friend, to play in a charity do, so we went. First problem was a sign telling us the M1 was closed just North of Sheffield. Quick change of plan, and we turned off early to avoid congestion. That nearly worked, but Sheffield was pretty chaotic with all the traffic diverted off the M1. Anyway, we got there. The fourth member of our team though, was stuck on the A1, which was also closed because of an "incident". He eventually arrived an hour late, but off we went and played.

 

All this time, the rain was pouring down, and as we progressed, it got heavier, the clouds got lower, and visibility shrank to about 150 yards. The last four holes were straight into the wind, which then picked up speed, and the rain, which had obviously only been practicing up to then, came at us horizontally and even harder. For the first time in many years it started to get through my very expensive but excellent waterproofs.

 

We staggered to the 17th hole, a short par 3, to be greeted by the club professional, who challenged us to better his shot to the green, the wager being a fiver to the charity. By this time, in the words of a friend of mine, I couldn't have hit a cow's ar#e with a banjo, so I declined. Unknown to me though, my mate payed for both of us to enter. The hole is 145 yards long, but by now the cloud/ fog was such that you couldn't see the green from the tee. I guessed at the right club, and hit the ball properly for once. Where it went, we could not see. When we got to the green though, there was only one ball on it, and it was mine, so I'd beaten the pro.

 

Sitting having a meal later, having had the forethought to take a complete change of clothing and now being warm and dry, we heard the announcement from the next room that all beating the pro achieved was to be put in a draw with all the other people who had done so, and that one number would be drawn to see who got the prize. The odds were 32 to 1. The winner's name was called, but no taker emerged. Apparently you had to be there at the time, or the next number would be drawn. Repeat nine times, still no takers. Tenth time produced my name!  Went and got an envelope from the Captain, back to my seat, opened it, and found........ a voucher for £500!!!!!  It has to be spent in their professional's shop, to preserve amateur status, but hey, a pretty dire day was suddenly transformed.

 

All that was left to do was to drive back down the M1 in thick fog, and get home after midnight. It's June, for god's sake.

 

Photos. On Thursday I went and took some much earlier than usual, and before the sun had got to where it shines directly in. I thought I'd just try some contre jour shots to see if they worked better than usual. Here are the results.

 

 

 

 

 

And if you have had the staying power to read all this, you will be entered into a draw for a prize, which you would richly deserve. You have to be in the room when I draw the numbers out though.

[Oldddudders]

You know my spectator's cynicism about that little white ball and its ability to do exactly what it likes - and you don't - so well done for perseverance. 

[trw1089]

Well done Gilbert. 500 quid, no matter where you had to spend it, is better than nowt!

 

Cheers

Tony

 

PS the last lot of B17 pics were rather nice.  More pretty please?

[jazzer]

On 06/06/2019 at 09:27, great northern said:

Deltic having a rest, while Huddersfield Town arrives with the Ely-Birmingham.

 

 

 

followed by another angle on the same view.

 

 

I don’t like the look of that blue roary  thing. I hope that idea never catches on

[great northern]

43 minutes ago, jazzer said:

I don’t like the look of that blue roary  thing. I hope that idea never catches on

They were very devious though. Painted the rest green, and no-one caught on.

[great northern]

4 hours ago, trw1089 said:

Well done Gilbert. 500 quid, no matter where you had to spend it, is better than nowt!

 

Cheers

Tony

 

PS the last lot of B17 pics were rather nice.  More pretty please?

 The local spotters say about an hour to wait, then there are the two Harwich trains, at least one of which should produce a B17.

[great northern]

Another, for me, very late night. So, yet another photo of the blue roary thing, and goodnight.

 

 

[Clive Mortimore]

31 minutes ago, great northern said:

Another, for me, very late night. So, yet another photo of the blue roary thing, and goodnight.

 

 

Shouldn't the big blue roary thing be carrying loco lamps?

[CUTLER2579]

Clive,

Gilbert recently told us he has lost the little baggy thing.I would suggest it is called a Vacuum Cleaner that he is looking for.

Regards,Derek.

[great northern]

9 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Shouldn't the big blue roary thing be carrying loco lamps?

I think it should be discs Clive, and I know where they are. They are in the little bag of parts which I cannot find, I know I have seen it somewhere though,

[great northern]

23 minutes ago, CUTLER2579 said:

Clive,

Gilbert recently told us he has lost the little baggy thing.I would suggest it is called a Vacuum Cleaner that he is looking for.

Regards,Derek.

It is more likely that I can't find them because I sucked them up with the vacuum cleaner Derek.

[great northern]

Two more of the early morning images I tried on Thursday. This first one is definitely less affected by glare.

 

 

 

The second is a bit dark and muddy, but looks OK in black and white.

 

 

[Clive Mortimore]

1 hour ago, great northern said:

I think it should be discs Clive, and I know where they are. They are in the little bag of parts which I cannot find, I know I have seen it somewhere though,

It were lamps http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/dp1-59.htm

 

And as for what you do with the vacuum cleaner, this is a family friendly site.

Edited June 9, 2019 by Clive Mortimore

[trw1089]

1 hour ago, great northern said:

Two more of the early morning images I tried on Thursday. This first one is definitely less affected by glare.

 

 

 

The second is a bit dark and muddy, but looks OK in black and white.

 

 

 I think the word you are looking for is moody, not muddy.  As a consultant I can always find ways to make little changes to words to make them sound far better than they really should be, I think it is called the art of bull$h1t.  Let me know if there are any other words that need improving, I can offer special discount rates for friends, 1% off my normal rates...

[St Enodoc]

9 minutes ago, trw1089 said:

 I think the word you are looking for is moody, not muddy.  As a consultant I can always find ways to make little changes to words to make them sound far better than they really should be, I think it is called the art of bull$h1t.  Let me know if there are any other words that need improving, I can offer special discount rates for friends, 1% off more than my normal rates...

Edited.

[great northern]

1 hour ago, Clive Mortimore said:

It were lamps http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/dp1-59.htm

 

And as for what you do with the vacuum cleaner, this is a family friendly site.

I should have known better Clive, than to query the acknowledged expert on things that go roar roar, or brmmm  brmmm for that matter. I shall put some lamps on, unless I drop them and vacuum them up by mistake first.

 

20 minutes ago, trw1089 said:

 I think the word you are looking for is moody, not muddy.  As a consultant I can always find ways to make little changes to words to make them sound far better than they really should be, I think it is called the art of bull$h1t.  Let me know if there are any other words that need improving, I can offer special discount rates for friends, 1% off my normal rates...

But I'm a retired lawyer Tony, which means of course that I am unable to do any other than tell the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

[Oldddudders]

Good to see the friendly environment in which antipodean modelling flourishes. 

[landscapes]

2 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said:

It were lamps http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/dp1-59.htm

 

And as for what you do with the vacuum cleaner, this is a family friendly site.

Hi Gilbert

 

Clive is correct, I have looked at all the archive photos I have of the Prototype Deltic DP1 on the ECML and they all show it carrying lamps.

 

It did have an earlier spell on the WCML and it may have had disks then, but I have no photos of this period.

 

May I please without offending you make one tiny I hope constructive criticism, that is cover that coupling pocket on the front of DP1 with the vacuum pipes and the other small detail fittings that come with the loco, it does improve it looks considerably.

 

Great photos as usual, just as I am fairly new to model railways I am even newer to Golf, took it up about two years ago.

 

I am still not sure which is the most frustrating of the two hobbies, but like you I played last Friday in driving rain.

 

My handicap at the moment is just trying to hit the golf ball straight.

 

Regards

 

David

[5 C]

4 hours ago, landscapes said:

Hi Gilbert

 

Clive is correct, I have looked at all the archive photos I have of the Prototype Deltic DP1 on the ECML and they all show it carrying lamps.

 

It did have an earlier spell on the WCML and it may have had disks then, but I have no photos of this period.

 

May I please without offending you make one tiny I hope constructive criticism, that is cover that coupling pocket on the front of DP1 with the vacuum pipes and the other small detail fittings that come with the loco, it does improve it looks considerably.

 

Great photos as usual, just as I am fairly new to model railways I am even newer to Golf, took it up about two years ago.

 

I am still not sure which is the most frustrating of the two hobbies, but like you I played last Friday in driving rain.

 

My handicap at the moment is just trying to hit the golf ball straight.

 

Regards

 

David

The attached at Colwich on the WCML also shows it sporting lamps.

http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/dp1_12-9-58.htm

[great northern]

6 hours ago, landscapes said:

Hi Gilbert

 

Clive is correct, I have looked at all the archive photos I have of the Prototype Deltic DP1 on the ECML and they all show it carrying lamps.

 

It did have an earlier spell on the WCML and it may have had disks then, but I have no photos of this period.

 

May I please without offending you make one tiny I hope constructive criticism, that is cover that coupling pocket on the front of DP1 with the vacuum pipes and the other small detail fittings that come with the loco, it does improve it looks considerably.

 

Great photos as usual, just as I am fairly new to model railways I am even newer to Golf, took it up about two years ago.

 

I am still not sure which is the most frustrating of the two hobbies, but like you I played last Friday in driving rain.

 

My handicap at the moment is just trying to hit the golf ball straight.

 

Regards

 

David

Railways win at the moment David, simply because I don't get rained on while operating it.

[jazzer]

7 hours ago, landscapes said:

Hi Gilbert

 

Clive is correct, I have looked at all the archive photos I have of the Prototype Deltic DP1 on the ECML and they all show it carrying lamps.

 

It did have an earlier spell on the WCML and it may have had disks then, but I have no photos of this period.

 

 

 

Apparently when Thompson was designing his Pacifics in the mid 1940’s he made provision for headcode discs, then someone pointed out to him that the Rule Book didn’t make provision for discs other than on the GE section and any signal man seeing no lamps would stop the train, so the idea was dropped. However the Rule book must have been changed by the time the Brush Type 2’ s were starting to run on the GN mainline , which would be about 1958/9. 

It therefore seems that when DP1 was built , 1955 provision was made for lamps only  but when the rule books were changed shortly afterwards it wasn’t worth modifying DP1 as its days were numbered anyway. 

[great northern]

The last two pictures from my early morning experiment. Not that early really, about 9.45am.

 

 

 

 

 

The lattices on the left do become impossible to photoshop properly. Nice signal box though.

[davidw]

Hi Gilbert, I've just received 'Last years of Steam on the Eastern Region' as an early birthday present. Cracking photos and lots of photographic  evidence the King's Cross locos were not always clean.

Edited June 10, 2019 by davidw