robmcg Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: I did, but chose the 6th type in the Fowler/Stanier/Fairburn/Riddles class 4 2-6-4Ts, the LMS/NCC class WT. Now if the LMS had made 2-6-0 versions of the class 4 tanks then wouldn't have they been great, just like the W class 2-6-0s were. Stanier did, and Riddles was his protege was he not? A great 5P/4F 2-6-0 from 1933..Or was it 4P/5F? I think in BR days it was 5MT. Apologies for straying from the true path of 2-6-4T deliberations. Edited May 16, 2020 by robmcg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Oldddudders said: ISTR the standard tanks were built at Brighton..... Most of them but not all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2020 4 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Most of them but not all. 11 hours ago, Oldddudders said: ISTR the standard tanks were built at Brighton..... 10 were built at Doncaster, 15 at Derby and the remaining 130 at Brighton. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted May 16, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2020 Pictures first as usual, then poll results, though I don't think this one is going to come as a surprise. The next southbound train is a FO from Bradford, with KX A3 Sandwich. We have both high and lower level views. 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, RFS said: 10 were built at Doncaster, 15 at Derby and the remaining 130 at Brighton. Thanks Robert, I didn't get round to checking the exact numbers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted May 16, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2020 Very conclusive. 12 votes for BR standard 4, far more than we've had for anything else, and no more than a couple for the works of Fowler Stanier Thompson and others. The last poll of this sort has to be, I think, 0.8.0s. Other wheel arrangements don't seem to have the number of classes to make them viable. So, Q in LNER classification. Do we leave it there? This does seem to have generated plenty of interest and amusement, not just in votes, but in the number of views there have been. This thread has become my opportunity to give something back to others in these strange and troubling times, and while you enjoy what I can give, I want to keep it going in this way. Jonathan has suggested a poll on carriages, but I don't know as much about them as I do about locomotives. Can I have some help on how we could frame that please? Any other ideas are very welcome too. I'm happy to head things up as I have been doing, if I know what to do! What about railway architecture by the way? Would that be of sufficient interest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, great northern said: Very conclusive. 12 votes for BR standard 4, far more than we've had for anything else, and no more than a couple for the works of Fowler Stanier Thompson and others. The last poll of this sort has to be, I think, 0.8.0s. Other wheel arrangements don't seem to have the number of classes to make them viable. So, Q in LNER classification. Do we leave it there? This does seem to have generated plenty of interest and amusement, not just in votes, but in the number of views there have been. This thread has become my opportunity to give something back to others in these strange and troubling times, and while you enjoy what I can give, I want to keep it going in this way. Jonathan has suggested a poll on carriages, but I don't know as much about them as I do about locomotives. Can I have some help on how we could frame that please? Any other ideas are very welcome too. I'm happy to head things up as I have been doing, if I know what to do! What about railway architecture by the way? Would that be of sufficient interest? How about the best looking pre 1975 overhead EMU? 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2020 Never mind how many classes. I don't believe it possible to design an elegant 0-8-0. The proportions just can not be right. The Great Northern probably got closest. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) G'Day Folks I'm going to pick a loco that disappeared in the mid 30's, 20+years before Gilberts masterpiece, A Q1/Q2. manna PS. Since I took this pic, I've fitted a new chimney and boiler bands. Edited May 16, 2020 by manna Extra info. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2020 NER Q6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2020 Q6 for me as well Gilbert. Re future polls, compared to many folk I don’t have a great knowledge of either carriages or architecture but I would certainly be interested. Bridges might be a category? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Ivatt Q1 for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 C Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 For looks, it has to be the Fowler "Austin" 7F, although the less said about its reliability the better. If it's reliability with a certain amount of Edwardian elegance, then it has to be the LNWR G2 and variants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieR4489 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Original Q1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted May 16, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Clive Mortimore said: How about the best looking pre 1975 overhead EMU? I might need your assistance for that one Clive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, great northern said: This thread has become my opportunity to give something back to others Ha bl@@dy ha! What on earth do you think brings us here the rest of the year? You give and give and give with your pics and views all year long - thankYOU! 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, great northern said: I might need your assistance for that one Clive. Eyes down look in L&YR Holcombe Brook units LB&SCR South London line LB&SCR Crystal Palace stock MR Lancaster, Morecambe and Heysham stock MSJ&AR LMS designed trains LNER design Manchester-Glossop (class 506) LNER design Liverpool St- Shenfield (class AM6/306) BR Eastliegh Liverpool St-Southend (class AM7/307) BR Doncaster, Fenchurch St-Shoeburyness (class AM2/302) BR York Liverpool St- Chingford (classes AM5&8/305&308) 3 car BR York Liverpool St- GER outer suburban (classes AM5&8/305&308) 4 car...they do look different BR Wolverton Liverpool, Manchester and Crewe (class AM4/304) BR/Cravens Glasgow blue trains (classes AM3&11/303 &311) BR Euston suburban (class AM10/310) Class 312 BR York, Liverpool St, Clacton and Walton (class AM9/309) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Metropolitan H Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2020 My 0-8-0 tender loco choice is the LNER (exNER) Q6. But if we are also allowed 0-8-0T locos - my vote has to go to the Kent and East Sussex Railway's - later SR and BR(S) - "Hecate" a very well balanced and elegant loco - supplied by R. W. Hawthorne Leslie and Co. in 1904. Regards Chris H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2020 57 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Eyes down look in L&YR Holcombe Brook units LB&SCR South London line LB&SCR Crystal Palace stock MR Lancaster, Morecambe and Heysham stock MSJ&AR LMS designed trains LNER design Manchester-Glossop (class 506) LNER design Liverpool St- Shenfield (class AM6/306) BR Eastliegh Liverpool St-Southend (class AM7/307) BR Doncaster, Fenchurch St-Shoeburyness (class AM2/302) BR York Liverpool St- Chingford (classes AM5&8/305&308) 3 car BR York Liverpool St- GER outer suburban (classes AM5&8/305&308) 4 car...they do look different BR Wolverton Liverpool, Manchester and Crewe (class AM4/304) BR/Cravens Glasgow blue trains (classes AM3&11/303 &311) BR Euston suburban (class AM10/310) Class 312 BR York, Liverpool St, Clacton and Walton (class AM9/309) I'd have to pick the Clacton units. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Clive Mortimore said: Eyes down look in L&YR Holcombe Brook units LB&SCR South London line LB&SCR Crystal Palace stock MR Lancaster, Morecambe and Heysham stock MSJ&AR LMS designed trains LNER design Manchester-Glossop (class 506) LNER design Liverpool St- Shenfield (class AM6/306) BR Eastliegh Liverpool St-Southend (class AM7/307) BR Doncaster, Fenchurch St-Shoeburyness (class AM2/302) BR York Liverpool St- Chingford (classes AM5&8/305&308) 3 car BR York Liverpool St- GER outer suburban (classes AM5&8/305&308) 4 car...they do look different BR Wolverton Liverpool, Manchester and Crewe (class AM4/304) BR/Cravens Glasgow blue trains (classes AM3&11/303 &311) BR Euston suburban (class AM10/310) Class 312 BR York, Liverpool St, Clacton and Walton (class AM9/309) Whoops, I forgot to add my favorites LNWR Siemens units converted to overhead for the Lancaster, Morecambe and Heysham line. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2020 As for 0-8-0 there are just too many LNWR ones to chose from, a G2A, a G2, G1 or a G. Then you have the Class A, Class C and Class D. The winner must be a Class B four cylinder compound locos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUTLER2579 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: How about the best looking pre 1975 overhead EMU? Is that something to do with Rod Hull ? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, CUTLER2579 said: Is that something to do with Rod Hull ? No, Hull hasn't been electrified yet. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, St Enodoc said: I'd have to pick the Clacton units. Ditto. They had a great deal of style with the wraparound cab windows, and ran a mainline service like few others in Clive's list. The AM10s, by comparison, always seemed a bit outer-suburban. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted May 16, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2020 Hang on chaps. We are still on 0.8.0s tender and tank, for the moment. You can vote on other things later. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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