ailg8048 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Couldn't help noticing the tag line at the bottom of Rogers reply "oh the mists of Blaenavon.." this was Blaenavon Saturday Morning http://www.aligrieve.fotopic.net/p67628824.html How much mist did you want Cheers Alistair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 "oh the mists of Blaenavon.." this was Blaenavon Saturday Morning Perhaps that's why I didn't spot Alastair or Roger ! Brian R 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 Thanks for posting those pics folks. I was there with Roger too..... ...somewhere in the mist..... ...we must have "mist" one another Actually, I was going to start a thread with my pics on the saturday titled "Growlers In the Mist" Perhaps I'll add them to this thread now....? Cheers Marc NOT wishing to emulate those sort of weather conditions in model form (it would surely set an alarm off somewhere!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted October 12, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2010 NOT wishing to emulate those sort of weather conditions in model form (it would surely set an alarm off somewhere!) You could always pin a sheet of tracing paper across the front of the layout, from the pelmet to the base board ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hilton Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 For some reason I'd missed this topic - looks a great follow up to previous layouts Marc - I look forward to seeing some more progress pictures Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Rabbit Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Hi Marc Same boat as James above. Missed this one but looks like it's shaping up to be another in the fine MS tradition. Thanks for the pointer. Cheers Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ailg8048 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 "You could always pin a sheet of tracing paper across the front of the layout, from the pelmet to the base board !" thin tracing paper for everywhere else, extra thick for Blaenavon Sometimes it's more low cloud than mist! regards Alistair PS - hope you had a good time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted October 12, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2010 Marc, Didn't realise you were back ? . Impressed with the article, and as Wayne said, cheers for the mention. . I'm looking to set up a Thursday night shortly, any preferences ? Brian Nice article, too - cracking pictures and a very approachable style to the text. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouse2037 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Good pics Alistair and Brian - Marc - yeah go on add a few misty growlers - oh and maybe one of that driver of the 73... Driver Smith. B) (There are a couple of pics on my blog spot if anyones interested - link below) Maybe have a kettle boiling away and blow steam at the punters? Handy for a cuppa too Cheers Roger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted October 13, 2010 Author Share Posted October 13, 2010 Hi All, Thanks to Allistair for posting the pics, and all at the P & B for a fab weekend! I hope it’s not too far off-topic, but I thought I’d add a few of my own photos from last weekends gala too? Plus, a couple of photos of the layout progress (not nearly enough!) Firstly, as I said thanks to the P&B team for a great event, which I called “Growlers In The Mist†(groan). Super event, despite the weather. I thought it was a stroke of genius to have the “driver for a fiver†event – it wasn’t one of my favourite class 37’s – but a class 73. The 73 was occasionally swapped, to do a turn of duty anyway, So using it for a driving experience, whilst it would otherwise have been idle was a very shrewd move! I have now become a bit of a fan of 73’s as well! Thanks for putting this one on – please do it again – I’d certainly be in the queue….probably twice On to matters a bit more on-topic. I’ve added battens underneath the foam insulation board – Pretty much as I did with the O gauge layout (Clarbeston North). These battens form a basic framework, to protect the foam-board. I’ve again used hardboard as the basis for the backscene. Hardboard can tend to warp, if it isn’t secured properly. It is glued + nailed to the battens, and I’ll use an off-cut strip to “laminate†each piece of the backscene / ends. This helps keep the hardboard rigid. It seemed to work well on the O gauge layout, and has helped keep the weight of the baseboard down. Plus, each time I use ply – it warps!!! I’ve cut away some of the foreground, to form a road which is slightly lower level than the track. At Cardiff Tidal the road is level with the rails, apart from where the bridge goes over the line. I know my low-level road isn’t in-keeping with the area, but I like to include low foreground, as this helps with eye-level viewing, and subsequent photography. I do like to see photos looking slightly upwards, to stock on the layout. Also, varying the levels within a model can help to make it appear larger. Note that the buildings in the view are just loosely placed, to give an idea of what the buildings will look like, when complete. Cheers Marc P.S. If you haven’t been to the Pontypool & Blaenavon before – You simply must go to their next event. It may be a small railway, but they’ve got big plans, and they’re a really friendly and welcoming bunch! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted October 13, 2010 Author Share Posted October 13, 2010 You could always pin a sheet of tracing paper across the front of the layout, from the pelmet to the base board ! :lol: Oh Stu - trust you! ha ha! ...wait a minute....I might just try that.... Cheers for your idea too Roger. Trouble is, I'd need a volunteer to keep drinking tea... any ideas who might be interested?....... Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Hardboard can tend to warp, if it isn’t secured properly. Marc, My dad was a cabinet maker, and installed a suspended ceiling in my 'outhouse'(being an Ely boy originally we didn't have a 'utility room') and he used roofing battens to which he attached hardboard covered with hessian that was all painted with white emulsion. . It's been up now for thirty years with no sign of warping........ his secret, was to temper the hardboard before installing it, namely wet it, put it up and let it dry. . Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ailg8048 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 thanks for the photo's and kind words Marc (cheques in the post ) the driver for a fiver was very popular so we'll be aiming to do it again although we haven't quite worked out how we fit it in yet as the section of track used will become part of the Big Pit branch. Mind you imagine a 37 standing here with the pit in the back ground B) http://www.aligrieve.fotopic.net/p67628844.html regards Alistair ps nice phots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 thanks for the photo's and kind words Marc (cheques in the post ) the driver for a fiver was very popular so we'll be aiming to do it again although we haven't quite worked out how we fit it in yet as the section of track used will become part of the Big Pit branch. Mind you imagine a 37 standing here with the pit in the back ground B) http://www.aligrieve.fotopic.net/p67628844.html regards Alistair ps nice phots Cheers Alistair, Thanks for your kind words. I just think it's great to see class 37's working in South Wales. The mist on Saturday was highly atmospheric, and the growl of the 37's coming up that incline toward Furnace sidings was fabulous! Can't wait to see the extension to Blaenavon up & running. It's such a great landscape around there! - very "modellogenic" - as confirmed by the photo you uploaded. I'm sure it will inspire a few layouts in future! Cheers again Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Hi Marc Starting to resemble a steelworks B) What is the strength of your baseboard material compared to wood? Regards Lewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 Hi Marc Starting to resemble a steelworks B) What is the strength of your baseboard material compared to wood? Regards Lewis Hi Lewis, The foam-board is quite delicate around the edges. You need to protect it, otherwise it would dent + chip. I use small-ish battens, glued underneath, and then glue + nail hardboard to the edges. This seems to do the trick.... Once you glue something to the board, it really sticks very well. I had to move a piece of track (through a silly fault of mine!) and I really struggled to remove it! In fact I couldn't believe how strong the bond was! You can't use superglue, or any solvents on it - or it melts. But PVA (especially) and No More Nails work well. Re solvents, once you've landscaped, painted etc, spilling solvents doesn't seem so critical. They've been using stuff like this in the US for years. I've almost always had problems with ply warping. This board is great though - it is said to never warp, and even though I'm adding a fair bit of wood to the structure, it's still an awful lot lighter than a conventional baseboard! This stuff is easy to cut, for landscape contours, so you don't need chicken-wire or anything like the amount of Mod-Rock - just a thin layer of plaster or DAS. One drawback is that you have to bury wires in it, making them inaccessible (unless you run them underneath) but this could also be a positive, I'm always wary of wiring "snagging" when I transport my layouts...... Wow! Long answer! And to questions you didn't really ask But, yes, provided you protect the edges.... ..it's pretty strong! Cheers Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 15, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 15, 2010 But a very good answer it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne 37901 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Hi Marc, The layout is coming on a treat! I'm following it with interest. I have a qusetion regarding your SPAs... I'm tinkering with several of these at the moment as I need some SHAs (a variation) for my layout and am wondering about the articulation provided on these wagons. I've been told that some people have just fixed them to the wagon floor with no swiveling action. What did you go for, and have they been built straight from the pack or have you added any other bits to them? Cheers, hope to see you at the pub on Thursday! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 Hi Wayne, I built my SPA's with the swivel-action, as per Cambrians' instructions. However, on one or 2 axles, I must have put a tad too much glue.... as they locked solid! Also, getting them in + out of stock boxes, one or 2 of the pivots have broken off! And got lost! So I've used other bit's n bob's to glue them back in..... When running, I can't tell the difference between the solid ones, and the free ones. They're fairly long wagons though, so it may depend on how tight the curves on your track are.... Another problem I've had with the wagons, is the W-iron / axle box assembly, is want to bend itself inwards - perhaps this is dependent on the glue used? The trouble is, that there is then a lot of resistance to the free-running of the axle... It's another job I've filed in my "to sort out" pile Have started some detailing bits to some buildings, and made some decidions re placement of buildings etc. Also, done a bit more landscaping..... Having been very plesed with the Static-grass applicator L&B loaned me, last year, for my O gauge layout (Clarbeston North) I decided to try out an applicator I found on ebay. It's just £12.50 incl P&P!!!! If it works well, I'll be very pleased, if not, my son can have it for his Warhammer modelling. Cheers Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Looking good again Marc - hope the show went OK at the weekend. I'd forgotten that I'd said I'd help out, I should of dropped you a PM! I decided to try out an applicator I found on ebay. It's just £12.50 incl P&P!!!! If it works well, I'll be very pleased, If they're the fly swat/tea strainer hybrid ones that a chap is selling then they're very good, it's what I used on Roath. One tip I would give it to make a hoop out of something quite bulky (circa 1mm diameter) and use that rather than the nail they suggest for an earthing point, it seems to give a better area of coverage. Changing the batteries fairly regularly seems to help too, I guess building up the charge must drain them a fair bit. I found that just shaking the applicator didn't really get enough fibres do I've been using bit of dowel to grind them out - probably stating the obvious here but don't use anything metal, one bad move and it's a sod of a jolt! Oh, and don't use areosol glue. There's still a burnt patch on Roath.... See you soon, Pix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveBedding Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 ...I decided to try out an applicator I found on ebay. It's just £12.50 incl P&P!!!! ... Cheers Marc Marc, Could you point me in the direction of this seller? Looks like it may be quick way forward at that price Cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Could you point me in the direction of this seller? Looks like it may be quick way forward at that price Me too, please Sir, me too ! But I can wait until tomorrow night. Brian R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr2 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I wouldn't mind knowing who he is too! (perhaps you should ask for commission.....??!!) Keef Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 Marc, Could you point me in the direction of this seller? Looks like it may be quick way forward at that price Cheers Sorry Steve, and others.... The item arrived last weekend, and appears fine (but I've not properly tested it!) I was just on ebay, searching for the link, however, it seems to have gone! I've tried looking in my "please leave feedback" and "Items won / purchased" but it's in neither! The only thing I can think of, is that perhaps someone got a faulty one.... or maybe a purchaser decided to put his / her fingers into the device! ....It didn't come with instructions....(but, well, you never know!) It seems that ebay may have withdrawn it... Another thought is that the seller titled it as "Noch / Greenscene" maybe other manufacturers got the hump? To find it initially, I just typed "static grass applicator" into the search box on ebay, and that's when I found it. Maybe try again in a few days.... P.S. Pixie, thanks for the tip re making a coil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mudmagnet Posted October 27, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2010 Hi Marc, Will be interesting to see how you get round the swivel on the wagons - I have a couple (OCA / OBA) with a similar arrangement, but have like you put them in the 'must sort sometime pile'. Must have a look at them again. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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