DLT's SR Locos - Lord Nelson Craftsman Kit

[DLT]

Completed the cab earlier today, and very pleased with the result.   The brass safety valve housing is another Markits product.

 

 

Edited September 6, 2022 by DLT

[DLT]

The kit includes some very nicely etched smoke deflector plates. but trying them out they look a bit on the small side.  A bit too low, they should meet the handrails, and too short at the front.

Its not a huge job to replace them, but do they look ok as they are?  (ignore the BlueTac...)

 

 

Edited September 6, 2022 by DLT

[Adam]

Very nice work Dave - I couldn't live with the deflectors myself, particularly the shortness in height and since replacement is straightforward and you have useful templates for the difficult bit to hand...

 

Adam

[DLT]

1 hour ago, Adam said:

Very nice work Dave - I couldn't live with the deflectors myself, particularly the shortness in height and since replacement is straightforward and you have useful templates for the difficult bit to hand...

 

Adam

 

My sentiments entirely!

[PaulRhB]

Is it the height or the curve that’s out? I’m looking in relation to the front handrail. This image by Charlie Verall (Flickr) makes the height look right but the curve tighter at the top? The length is also different but is the etch too long making the front  look proportionally wrong in position? Mind you there do seem to be two slightly different styles! 

 

Smugmug Railway-photography 

 

Edited March 26, 2020 by PaulRhB

[cctransuk]

3 hours ago, DLT said:

The kit includes some very nicely etched smoke deflector plates. but trying them out they look a bit on the small side.  A bit too low, they should meet the handrails, and too short at the front.

Its not a huge job to replace them, but do they look ok as they are?  (ignore the BlueTac...)

 

 

 

Definitely a tad too low, and possibly a bit short.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

[PaulRhB]

I reckon the kit ones are the ones with the fold at the footplate line and the flat ones look different to me. I’d try and photograph the model to match the photos and compare. With these angles it’s very difficult to tell.  

[DLT]

Thanks for your thoughts and photos guys, all a big help.  What we really need are side-on photos, but they are hard to find, and can suffer from lens distortion.

 

The plates are definitely too low and too short; at present the front section doesn't quite meet the curve of the footplate, so I think it's going to be a replacement job.

 

I've done it before, with the U-Class I built some years ago:

 

 

 

Edited September 6, 2022 by DLT

[N15class]

I preferred the 4-6-0's without the smoke deflectors. 

[30368]

Good use of blutack DLT, where would we be without it! Agree with you regarding deflectors, perhaps 1-2mm too low? I havn't checked. Did you kit come with the big 5,000 gall. tender?

 

Build is looking very good, clean and well fitted together.

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

[30368]

Just had a look at some collected images of H15s. Judging by the picture of 486 below the top of the deflector on the firemans side, just visable, is below the handrail level. I guess most photographers of locos were at ground level so the deflector would look level or even higher than the handrail.

 

 

I know that 331 is not of the original batch but same deflector fitment.

 

Hope the pictures help, the second image is priceless given quality of detail, is that water or paint on the print!? Count the rivets!

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

 

Edited March 27, 2020 by 30368

[DLT]

Thanks for your thoughts guys, and Paul and Richard for the terrific photos, all new ones to me.

I have found one fully side-on photo, taken from a distance so there's very little wide-angle distortion.  I'm using it for scaling a lot of the detail that doesn't show up in drawings.

 

Here's the latest attempts on the smoke-plates, quite an improvement I think:

 

 

 

I've drilled holes in the footplate to give a good positive location, I'm not quite ready to solder them on.

 

Cheers, Dave.

Edited September 6, 2022 by DLT

[Tony Teague]

A great improvement Dave!

Looking good.

[DLT]

I've drilled and filed out the handhold cutouts now, and wished I had done them BEFORE I soldered the beading on...

 

[DLT]

Motor and gearbox have been assembled and installed, working on pickups now..I'll do some photos (or even a video) when its running.

Cheers, Dave.

[Daddyman]

On 28/03/2020 at 12:58, DLT said:

Thanks for your thoughts guys, and Paul and Richard for the terrific photos, all new ones to me.

I have found one fully side-on photo, taken from a distance so there's very little wide-angle distortion.  I'm using it for scaling a lot of the detail that doesn't show up in drawings.

 

Here's the latest attempts on the smoke-plates, quite an improvement I think:

 

 

 

 

 

I've drilled holes in the footplate to give a good positive location, I'm not quite ready to solder them on.

 

Cheers, Dave.

That's a beautiful bit of work. I'm marvelling at the precision of your rivet-punching too, with no distortion visible at all - a joy to behold! I can't remember if I've asked you before about the tool you use for punching - apologies if so. 

[DLT]

1 hour ago, Daddyman said:

That's a beautiful bit of work. I'm marvelling at the precision of your rivet-punching too, with no distortion visible at all - a joy to behold! I can't remember if I've asked you before about the tool you use for punching - apologies if so. 

 

Hi Daddyman,

Thanks very much.  Although the new rivets still look large compared to the etched ones!

I use a GW Models Riveter.  There has been quite a lot of discussion of it on the forum, and theres a picture of one on my narrow gauge workbench thread, halfway down this page:  DLT's Narrow Gauge Workbench

There is a thread about it here:  Riveting Tool  Its a brilliant machine, but takes a bit of getting used to.

Cheers, Dave.

[Daddyman]

1 hour ago, DLT said:

 

Hi Daddyman,

Thanks very much.  Although the new rivets still look large compared to the etched ones!

I use a GW Models Riveter.  There has been quite a lot of discussion of it on the forum, and theres a picture of one on my narrow gauge workbench thread, halfway down this page:  DLT's Narrow Gauge Workbench

There is a thread about it here:  Riveting Tool  Its a brilliant machine, but takes a bit of getting used to.

Cheers, Dave.

Thanks, Dave. We've been discussing its ...erm... foibles on one of Mike Edge's threads recently too. You seem to be getting the best out of it. 

[DLT]

4 minutes ago, Daddyman said:

Thanks, Dave. We've been discussing its ...erm... foibles on one of Mike Edge's threads recently too. You seem to be getting the best out of it. 

 

Aha, which thread is that?  I would like to read it.

Thanks, Dave.

[Daddyman]

1 hour ago, DLT said:

 

Aha, which thread is that?  I would like to read it.

Thanks, Dave.

Starts here: 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/45248-judith-edge-kits/page/54/

[DLT]

Motor and gearbox installed, and driving the middle axle.  The rear end of the motor is supported by one stiff wire from the pickup plate to the lower terminal.  Then a flexible wire from the chassis to the other terminal completes the circuit.

 

 

 

Pickup method is my usual recipe of a Copperclad PCB plate screwed to a couple of extra chassis members, with nickel-silver wire wipers acting on the backs of the wheels.  Boring and predictable (like me...) but a very effective and reliable method.

 

 

Cheers, Dave.

Edited September 6, 2022 by DLT

[DLT]

Its alive!!!

 

 

 

 

Right, next bit...

[hayfield]

1 hour ago, DLT said:

Motor and gearbox installed, and driving the middle axle.  The rear end of the motor is supported by one stiff wire from the pickup plate to the lower terminal.  Then a flexible wire from the chassis to the other terminal completes the circuit.

 

 

 

Pickup method is my usual recipe of a Copperclad PCB plate screwed to a couple of extra chassis members, with nickel-silver wire wipers acting on the backs of the wheels.  Boring and predictable (like me...) but a very effective and reliable method.

 

 

Cheers, Dave.

 

Dave

 

Thank you similar method but far better than my attempts and very thought provoking, especially the rear motor mount

 

Great tip

[bgman]

Smooth operator, much like your work Dave, great stuff especially backed up by your videos.

Hope you and the family are keeping well, take care.

 

G

[Tony Teague]

Looks excellent and nice smooth running - as one would expect!