DLT's SR Locos - Lord Nelson Craftsman Kit

[Tony Teague]

18 hours ago, Tony Teague said:

 

Phil

I honestly don't know.

As Dave said, he was asked to build the body to a pre-built chassis, and so neither of us really knows its provenance.

What I will do is have a look tomorrow to see whether there are any visible markings on the chassis, but once they are made up, any markings tend not to show.

I'll get back to you if I find anything.

Tony

 

Hi Phil

 

There are no markings that I can see on the chassis of No.531 - which is not in itself surprising:

 

 

That said, it does look remarkably like the SEF etch that I have in stock, and form that you can see that compensation clearly is an option:

 

 

Should I ever get around to building it, I very much doubt that I will be going the compensation route!
Tony

 

[Tony Teague]

3 minutes ago, Jack Benson said:

 

At least one person knows the provenance of the Q.

 

StaySafe

 

Probably two or more.

[Wilton 34041]

8 minutes ago, Tony Teague said:

 

Hi Phil

 

There are no markings that I can see on the chassis of No.531 - which is not in itself surprising:

 

 

That said, it does look remarkably like the SEF etch that I have in stock, and form that you can see that compensation clearly is an option:

 

 

Should I ever get around to building it, I very much doubt that I will be going the compensation route!
Tony

 

Tony, that's excellent info. Thanks very much. Especially that photo of the chassis etch as it gives the FC number which Squires are telling me doesn't exist. Now if only I can convince them to find one and sell it to me! Under previous circumstances a phone call to Dave at SEF would have secured a chassis and the other spares I was hoping to get in no time at all.

Thanks again that's everything I needed, now I can move on confidently.

 

Phil B.

[Guest Jack Benson]

On 15/03/2021 at 12:59, DLT said:

Finished tha cab roof now.  Filed the ribs down quite a long way, so they don't look so overscale.  Also added the rear supporting rib, that often gets missed on models.

I think it looks a lot better now.

 

 

Looking rather good, the additional fettling has really paid off, what is the next step in the build?

 

 Btw, a loco crew has been painted and hopefully will fit in the cab. Something special is needed for this loco.

 

StaySafe

[Denbridge]

17 hours ago, Wilton 34041 said:

Tony, that's excellent info. Thanks very much. Especially that photo of the chassis etch as it gives the FC number which Squires are telling me doesn't exist. Now if only I can convince them to find one and sell it to me! Under previous circumstances a phone call to Dave at SEF would have secured a chassis and the other spares I was hoping to get in no time at all.

Thanks again that's everything I needed, now I can move on confidently.

 

Phil B.

Give them a chance to familiarise themselves with what theyve bought. Incidentally Dave is still onboard helping them come to grips with the range, but it wont happen overnight.

Im personally just happy that we havent lost yet another fine range of kits.

[DLT]

On 17/03/2021 at 09:30, Jack Benson said:

what is the next step in the build?

 

This.....

 

I don't think there are many more bits to stick on, and some will be done after painting.  A coat of grey can help to show up any problems, like the lubricator holes in the smokebox that I've forgotten to fill in...

Edited September 7, 2022 by DLT

[DLT]

Still sticking more bits on to the backhead, and I've dug out the D15 one as well, to improve it with some of the Brassmasters parts.

These cruel closeups show all the flaws, and neither are quite finished.

 

 

 

Edited September 7, 2022 by DLT

[Tony Teague]

I don't know about "cruel flaws", for scratch built backheads these look pretty amazing to me!

[Guest Jack Benson]

Dave,

 

There will be a small parcel of appropriate footplate crews in the post, I have no idea which will actually ‘fit’. 
 

StaySafe

[DLT]

 

Edited September 7, 2022 by DLT

[DLT]

I always end up having to produce a bespoke tender drawbar for each loco, as each has its own shape and positioning.  This time the mounting screw is (a) very close to the back end of the footplate, and (b) doubled up as the rear chassis mounting screw.  So I didn't have much scope for a solution.   

The drawbar is soldered to a short piece of tube, and threaded onto an 8ba bolt.  Another shorter piece of tube is soldered to the bolt, with a bit of clearance. (I could have used a nut for this, but there wasn't room) making the drawbar/tube captive, but allowing it to swing.  The whole thing then screws in to secure the chassis in place.

The photos should be fairly self explanatory as to how I've done it.  (Clear as mud...?)

 

 

 

 

Edited September 7, 2022 by DLT

[DLT]

Done some more work on the backheads, they are not strictly accurate Adams and Drummond, but are "styled" using some accurate parts, some generic bits, and the rest cobbled up.

Even more so, the enlargement show the bodges and the stray paint etc.

 

 

 

Edited September 7, 2022 by DLT

[hayfield]

DLT

 

They look superb !! How many would even notice they are not strictly correct ?

[Guest Jack Benson]

David,

 

A sliver of plasticard will fix the splasher boxes, no need for anything more elaborate. Plus the crew’s legs will obscure the rest.

 

Thank you

[Jack P]

Dave, Jack & co associated with the build: What is the provenance of the piece in the top left corner of the D15's backhead? (I cannot think of the name for it, I thought it was the sight feed lubricator, but I don't know)..

[DLT]

6 hours ago, Jack P said:

Dave, Jack & co associated with the build: What is the provenance of the piece in the top left corner of the D15's backhead? (I cannot think of the name for it, I thought it was the sight feed lubricator, but I don't know)..

I'm not exactly sure what it is, but it appears in Adams cabs.  It came from a sprue of Adams parts from Brassmasters.  Beware though, some of these parts are VERY small.

Edited April 3, 2021 by DLT

[DLT]

Sorry for luck of updates, but we are nearly there.  As Mattingleycustom pointed out earlier, the numbering on the D15 should be Sunshine.  That's been replaced using HMRS Pressfix, SR loco sheet.

 

 

Edited September 7, 2022 by DLT

[DLT]

Still more bits to stick on the 0395, but here is the current state.

 

 

 

Edited September 7, 2022 by DLT

[gz3xzf]

Hi everybody, the piece on the left hand side of the D15 back-head looks like a representation of a vacuum brake, this is a photo of the T9 at Swanage: -

The vacuum brake is the is the large lump left of the gauge frame, the brown handle on the front is the small ejector, the handle on the left is the brake valve itself and the wheel on top is the steam shut-off.

Hope that helps.

[Guest Jack Benson]

It might be of interest, there is an album of D15 images to be found here

 

There are no known images of the D15 cab, it was broadly similar to the T9 with the addition of a lubricator on each side of the cab. Unusually, Eastleigh did not release a GA of the D15, possibly due to the death of Drummond and Urie’s appointment, the only drawing is a sketch which is the album. Nevertheless, they were popular, very capable locos* with footplate, operating staff and enthusiasts, a few images have survived albeit with only a few examples of each individual example.
 

*It could be suggested that but for the death of Drummond, another ten D15 would have been built but Urie’s first design was outstanding and removed any need for more.
 

StaySafe

 

 

[Jack P]

12 hours ago, DLT said:

I'm not exactly sure what it is, but it appears in Adams cabs.  It came from a sprue of Adams parts from Brassmasters.  Beware though, some of these parts are VERY small.

 

Ok thanks Dave, your work on this 0395 has encouraged me to get my A into G with mine, replacement Martin Finney tender ordered. When I get home i'll pull it back out and have another look at the drawings. The discussion we had on my thread with Mike Edge encouraged me to replace the cab, but I can't remember how far I got with that.

 

Also that excellent chimney and dome, where are they from?

 

@Jack Benson is there a brassmasters part number for this sprue? I could certainly use a few for my spares box

 

 

Edited April 3, 2021 by Jack P

[Guest Jack Benson]

On 03/04/2021 at 11:01, DLT said:

I'm not exactly sure what it is, but it appears in Adams cabs.  It came from a sprue of Adams parts from Brassmasters.  Beware though, some of these parts are VERY small.

Not all 0395 cabs are equal, 30567 (below) did not have a vacuum brake in the same place on the backhead but it did have an LCDR boiler and cab front, whether 30581(original Adams boiler) had a vacuum brake fitting in the same place is debatable.

However the T9 and D15 did most certainly have a vacuum brake and a left hand reversing lever.

Isn’t pedantry fun?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 4, 2021 by Jack Benson

[Jack P]

11 hours ago, Jack Benson said:

Not all 0395 cabs are equal, 30567 (below) did not have a vacuum brake in the same place on the backhead but it did have an LCDR boiler and cab front

 

Jack, 

 

That photo of 30567's backhead and cab interior is unbelievably useful, as 567 is the specific loco i'm planning to convert my own 0395 into.  Thanks for sharing.

[Guest Jack Benson]

5 hours ago, Jack P said:

 

Jack, 

 

That photo of 30567's backhead and cab interior is unbelievably useful, as 567 is the specific loco i'm planning to convert my own 0395 into.  Thanks for sharing.

Careful examination of contemporary photographs is essential. 30567 retained certain features that had been removed from other examples of the class. 
Try this link as it shows the various nuances across the class, at least three variations of boiler (and associated fittings), two different cabs, two different frame lengths, different positions of injectors etc. 
 

 

[DLT]

Last job is the injectors, and I decided to make them myself.  A piece of brass tube, with copper wire (left over from Markits clack-valve kit) two holed drilled, more wire soldered in, and a brass flange (more from that clack-valve kit)

Then bent to shape with trial & (a lot of) error.

 

Edited September 7, 2022 by DLT