RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted October 6, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 6, 2010 We want to carry out extensive testing of the mechanism before we press the green button for delivery. CHRIS LEIGH We have a very nice little Sentinel in the office, complete apart from the motor and gears. CHRIS LEIGH Err... For three days apart, aren't these two comments slightly contradictory - are you testing the motor/mechanism outside the body? But seriously, the model really does look good and I am sure will be well worth the wait. And a wait would be good - there's far too much R-T-R stuff coming out now to budget for without MR's sentinel (and black 08) to consider. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigwelsh Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Err... For three days apart, aren't these two comments slightly contradictory - are you testing the motor/mechanism outside the body? Its always possible to want to test a mechanism you haven't got yet.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 We want to carry out extensive testing of the mechanism before we press the green button for delivery. CHRIS LEIGH View Postdibber25, on 21 September 2010 - 21:52 , said: We have a very nice little Sentinel in the office, complete apart from the motor and gears. CHRIS LEIGH Err... For three days apart, aren't these two comments slightly contradictory - are you testing the motor/mechanism outside the body? (quote) Err - No. When I posted on 18/10 we hadn't received the sample and I was expecting it to contain a mechanism. When it arrived it didn't contain the motor, weight, gears, hence the post on 21 September. CHRIS LEIGH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markeg Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Hi Chris, Thanks for keeping us updated about this little gem of a loco. My question is regarding ordering from Australia. If the next Model Rail comes out in UK some 4-6weeks before we get it, is the loco likely to be sold out before we can get the magazine and know about how to order one? Can we order the Loco on/through the Web? I thought I would ask because I wish to buy the LNER version and may be tempted to buy a BR version and would hate to miss out. I am on the update list when emails are sent through. Have just returned from the British Railway Modellers of Australia convention in Melbourne OZ with special guest speaker Ian Futers. Could have listened to him all day. I asked him about finding sources of survey maps for old railway lines in the North East (Ponteland just out of Newcastle upon tyne). regards Mark in OZ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 I've been on leave but I popped into the office today to find 5 Sentinels, one of which is the second engineering prototype, complete and operational. I think you're going to be impressed. I am! CHRIS LEIGH 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 You certainly have me salivating at the thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 8, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 8, 2010 Any chance of a Sentinel Railcar as a follow up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 ....and now the official version: First powered Sentinel model received Dear All, We’re delighted to report that further pre-production samples of our ‘OO’ gauge Sentinel 4wVBT have arrived from China, including the first motorised model. Unpainted samples of the GWR, LNER and BR have arrived for approval, and will be displayed on Model Rail’s stand at the Warley National Model Railway exhibition at the NEC, Birmingham on November 20/21. We’re also hoping to have a couple of hand-painted samples for you to examine. The body and chassis tooling (slightly revised from engineering prototype 1) has now been completed and ‘locked down’ for production. Powered sample No. 1 is currently undergoing extensive running trials on our office test track, including endurance tests to ensure the motor and mechanism are robust enough to withstand 100 hours of running. So far, the model has passed all tests with flying colours, and surpassed our expectations in terms of haulage capacity and slow-speed running. On its first run, the model took 40 minutes to complete one 40ft circuit of a layout and hauled a train of 20 short-wheelbase coal wagons. Yesterday it also hauled a train of eight Hornby Mk 1 coaches – far more than the real thing would ever have been asked to do. As soon as we have photographs and video footage of the model in action, we’ll send out another update. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Chris, I'm really glad that Model Rail goes the extra mile on things like this...... Btw did you ever find out where that trestle bridge was located in the Railway Children movie? Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Btw did you ever find out where that trestle bridge was located in the Railway Children movie? (quote) No. One or two good suggestions but no one seems really certain. Think I'm going to play with the Sentinel for five minutes. CHRIS LEIGH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I have no idea if this will work, but I've uploaded a small piece of video shot on Ben's phone. CHRIS LEIGH IMG_0057.MOV 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 838rapid Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Looks a great Little model. Cant wait to order one. Cheers for the Video Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m mcdermott Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 certainly works for me chris any chance of creep video Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold LH&JC Posted November 10, 2010 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2010 Very nice, and quiet too! Is that livery accurate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Now I'm getting worried - there's got to be a cost to this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Once pre-ordering information is available, I hope some kind soul will post it here for us non-Model Rail subscribers. Activities like the Sentinel might make me a believer that the ~$90.00 for a US subscription is worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Now I'm getting worried - there's got to be a cost to this? Well - yes. Everything has a cost, and for quality products you invariably end up paying more. If this ends up in the 85-100 range I wouldn't complain. The Model Rail team, along with Dapol, have man hours/research and development to pay back on, like any manufacturer, you know. I get the feeling these are going to shift like the proverbial hot cakes - it looks superb that model, very quiet and smooth running. Thank you Chris and Ben for posting it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted November 10, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2010 £80-100 for what's essentially an 0-4-0T?!? Still, I have to say, it does look awfully tempting, even at that price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 £80-100 for what's essentially an 0-4-0T?!? Still, I have to say, it does look awfully tempting, even at that price. For what looks to be an extremely well detailed, extremely accurate, and well running model - yes, I'd pay £80 for an 0-4-0T. I don't think the wheel arrangement is that relevant to its price, if I'm honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 £80-100 for what's essentially an 0-4-0T?!? Still, I have to say, it does look awfully tempting, even at that price. A Brawa Kof will set you back rather more than that. If the running of this wee beastie is half as good it will be a bargain. A German 0-4-0T steam loco that I was looking at the other day was priced at 199 euros. Welcome to 2011. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 The model on the video isn't a finished sample, its just plain matt black. We are getting some other, non-powered, samples painted and lettered. The powered sample has just completed its third day of test running with the short train of wagons and is so far faultless. It does stall at slow speed on the long plastic frog of Hornby's curved points but I can't see a way round that, as the plastic frog is actually longer than the wheelbase of the loco. The £80-£100 price bracket quoted above is, as far as I know, a guess by one of the posters above. It is not a price bracket issued by Model Rail, as far as I am aware. We currently have no price worked out because the model is still under development and we don't yet know the final cost to us. We plan to price the model as keenly as we can but all matters related to pricing models from the Far East are very fluid at present. CHRIS LEIGH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 The model on the video isn't a finished sample, its just plain matt black. We are getting some other, non-powered, samples painted and lettered. The powered sample has just completed its third day of test running with the short train of wagons and is so far faultless. It does stall at slow speed on the long plastic frog of Hornby's curved points but I can't see a way round that, as the plastic frog is actually longer than the wheelbase of the loco. The £80-£100 price bracket quoted above is, as far as I know, a guess by one of the posters above. It is not a price bracket issued by Model Rail, as far as I am aware. We currently have no price worked out because the model is still under development and we don't yet know the final cost to us. We plan to price the model as keenly as we can but all matters related to pricing models from the Far East are very fluid at present. CHRIS LEIGH My apologies Chris, that was me guessing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Stop me if i'm wrong, but that's reversing isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 It was running bunker first in the video. It has been running 'forwards' today but the front looks like the back anyway...... CHRIS LEIGH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted November 11, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2010 Chris - thanks for that bit of video, I could even access that on my work PC! Could you kindly just reiterate what the ordering process will be for non-MR subscribers, please? Many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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