RMweb Premium keefer Posted January 3, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 3, 2013 certainly in the 70s, the ScR seemed to use cl.122s for parcels work particularly the three cl.131 conversions 55013-5, which had sealed/modified doors and blanked out or meshed bodyside windows 55014: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/6132770705/in/set-72157603648796702 iirc they were often used attached to a 3-car cl.101 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Hmm, i was around the WR mainline in 1982-1985, cang remember ever seeing one at all. Where did they work to from Paddington ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 The Western 128's worked mainly from Paddington to Reading and Didcot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Cheese Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I remember seeing 128's at Reading in the mid 80's, in filthy bangar blue and for some reason only seen by myself on overcast rainy days! Perhaps the above reason is why I never got a decent photograph of one, they had a strange fascination being so fugly with their sheeted over gangways and tiny windows under the layers of grime, the antithesis of the more glamourous HST's and class 50's that dominated proceedings at the time. The first time I saw one I never realised what its purpose was, and assumed it was some sort of departmental vehicle for laying sandite or whatever...I was around 14 at the time though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 6, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2013 I remember seeing 128's at Reading in the mid 80's, in filthy bangar blue and for some reason only seen by myself on overcast rainy days! Perhaps the above reason is why I never got a decent photograph of one, they had a strange fascination being so fugly with their sheeted over gangways and tiny windows under the layers of grime, the antithesis of the more glamourous HST's and class 50's that dominated proceedings at the time. The first time I saw one I never realised what its purpose was, and assumed it was some sort of departmental vehicle for laying sandite or whatever...I was around 14 at the time though... They didn't look too bad when new - the lined green was quite nice when clean and provided the ends were kept clean the blank door always looked presentable. But when they went into blue they looked like so many other things - absolutely soulless and just a dismal shape unrelieved by anything such as lining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguin of doom Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 They didn't look too bad when new - the lined green was quite nice when clean and provided the ends were kept clean the blank door always looked presentable. But when they went into blue they looked like so many other things - absolutely soulless and just a dismal shape unrelieved by anything such as lining. The Red post office livery certainly changed that! They stood out from the crowd in that livery for sure..... Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Class 128 m55993 in Rail Blue Livery, putting out lots of Exhaust smoke as it goes thru Manchester Victoria by Ixion172, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted January 8, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2013 certainly in the 70s, the ScR seemed to use cl.122s for parcels work particularly the three cl.131 conversions 55013-5, which had sealed/modified doors and blanked out or meshed bodyside windows 55014: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/6132770705/in/set-72157603648796702 iirc they were often used attached to a 3-car cl.101 I was unaware of these. Possibly a good subject for a limited-series commission from one of the retailers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2013 http://www.flickr.com/photos/camperdown/8326083389/in/faves-45827152@N07/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim s-w Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I was unaware of these. Possibly a good subject for a limited-series commission from one of the retailers. Or a nice simple project for someone who actually wants to do some modelling! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10800 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Hattons have today advised delivery in August 2013 (my green whiskered one anyway). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tase Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Blue with full yellow ends due in March 2013 according to Hattons. (via email). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Bevan Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I've just has an email from Hatton's saying Heljan have given them a release date of March '13, any news from inside sources? I had vouchers for Christmas that I am saving to spend on the BR green with yellow gangway covers, I just hope Antics don't go bust or I may Loose my vouchers!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Hattons have today advised delivery in August 2013 (my green whiskered one anyway). Funny - my e-mail said :- "Heljan 8900 Class 128 DPU W55991 in green with speed whiskers. £94.00 Our latest information from the supplier suggests this item will arrive with us March 2013". Left hand / right hand ?!? Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tase Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Mystery solved.... W79978 in light green with speed whiskers is THE one due Aug/Sept 2013. W55991 in green with speed whiskers is due March 2013. Hth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10800 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Hi Tase The mystery is indeed solved, and is because my message and your info relate to the AC Railcar and not the Class 128 - so for some reason I ordered the wrong item! Just as well I posted! Oh well, off to change my order Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BromsMods Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 The following models are due for release next week (25 Feb) so should be in shops the week after: 8900 - W55993 in BR green livery with speed whiskers 8901 - W55992 in BR green livery with yellow gangway doors 8902 - W55991 in early BR blue livery with yellow gangway doors 8903 - M55994 in BR rail blue livery with full yellow ends Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-gog Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Hmmm, given Heljan's track record, I'll wait until I see the reviews before I part with cash for one of these. Apart from a small photo by Model Rail, I've yet to see close-up detail shots of these models. Hopefully they'll turn out to be a faithful reproduction. Fingers crossed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted February 18, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2013 I'll await my in-stock notification email from Liverpool and see if there are any reviews before making a decision. The parcel cars ran outside my area of interest (just) but Rule 1 applies and several other itmes which never ran in Cornwall appear on the layout including Falcon and a pair of Claytons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Hmmm, given Heljan's track record, I'll wait until I see the reviews before I part with cash for one of these. Apart from a small photo by Model Rail, I've yet to see close-up detail shots of these models. Hopefully they'll turn out to be a faithful reproduction. Fingers crossed. There are some reasonable side-on shots of the Heljan pre-production model on the Hatton's website (http://www.worldwidemodelrailways.com/stocklist/1000399/1000588/1000673/1000818/Heljan_OO_Gauge_1_76th_DMUs_United_Kingdom/sceneprodlist.aspx) but I haven't seen any others. (I used the new Hatton's live chat facility to check these were of the Heljan pre-production model). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I hope they do it in O next Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I hope they do it in O next Don't hold your breath Steve! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-gog Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 There are some reasonable side-on shots of the Heljan pre-production model on the Hatton's website (http://www.worldwidemodelrailways.com/stocklist/1000399/1000588/1000673/1000818/Heljan_OO_Gauge_1_76th_DMUs_United_Kingdom/sceneprodlist.aspx) but I haven't seen any others. (I used the new Hatton's live chat facility to check these were of the Heljan pre-production model). Many thanks for that. Something is better than nothing at this stage, but I'll wait until I see something a bit more concrete. RWJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andy W Posted February 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2013 When this does come to be reviewed I hope the respective editors remember that these units were designed and diagrammed to haul tail loads and give us an idea of their capacity. This follows Chris Leigh's entirely reasonable comments on the 2-BIL thread about not testing haulage capacity on mutiple units unless there were unpowered units on the market for them to pull. As Chris's lifelong interest in WR diesels is well known I don't think he'd need reminding but other magazines might. The 128s both in WR and LMR service were used to pull several vans of parcels and mail around as well as operating singly, and in later years when Barmouth Bridge was suffering from marine worms and locos were banned, they pulled engineering trains across it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 When this does come to be reviewed I hope the respective editors remember that these units were designed and diagrammed to haul tail loads and give us an idea of their capacity. This follows Chris Leigh's entirely reasonable comments on the 2-BIL thread about not testing haulage capacity on mutiple units unless there were unpowered units on the market for them to pull. As Chris's lifelong interest in WR diesels is well known I don't think he'd need reminding but other magazines might. The 128s both in WR and LMR service were used to pull several vans of parcels and mail around as well as operating singly, and in later years when Barmouth Bridge was suffering from marine worms and locos were banned, they pulled engineering trains across it. I understand that I'll be seeing a review sample very soon and have already started writing the prototype notes etc. I saw W55991/2 every time I went trainspotting and they usually had tail loads. It is worth realising that the loads were limited, however. I would be looking for the model to pull about four vehicles, but we shall see. I do have an unpowered old TRi-ang EMU to put behind the 2-BIL but to date Model Rail has not received a review sample of this model. Seems the Barmouth bridge job also included recovering stranded wagons from the 'wrong' side of the bridge - mainly gunpowder vans from Penrhyndeudraeth. CHRIS LEIGH PS. Ten minutes later, a Thumper has arrived for review. You wait ages for a multiple unit, then three come at once..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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