andyman7 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, adb968008 said: 52 would be Trix surely ? 42 Fleischmann ? To complete the list though 56- Mainline, 57 Heljan (Lima used the 47 shell), 58- Hornby,60,66, 67 Lima, 70 Bachmann. Leaves new class 69 tbd... and prototype HST. when it comes to AC electrics however.. 82,83,84,88,93 are all available. Trix 52 is a contender but it is seriously remiss in actually looking like the loco it is supposed to represent. Fleischmann 42 is H0 and therefore disqualified . I stopped at Class 55 as from class 56 onwards they are not modernisation plan era but the original 4mm 60, 66 and 67 models were all done by Lima. Edited February 3, 2020 by andyman7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 4 hours ago, brenn said: It looks great....can you get the builders plates off easily as i plan to have my blue renumbered tops so will have to move them. does look a good model...well done Dapol:) B My feeling is they will come off ok, though I have not tried; they appear to be etched and are legible, which really tested my phone camera focus! As can be seen there is the merest hint of Dapols adhesive visible in the photo, suggesting they are simply stuck on and which is not visible to the naked eye. The absolutely minute Shed plates are a nice bonus, again appear to be etched and glued in place. The only real let down I feel is the exhaust outlets which look basic and could at least have been painted black, indeed the blanked off original exhaust position IS painted black! Not insurmountable but an error easily avoided perhaps. Overall it is a cracking model though I think. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium thegreenhowards Posted February 4, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 4, 2020 12 hours ago, brenn said: It looks great....can you get the builders plates off easily as i plan to have my blue renumbered tops so will have to move them. does look a good model...well done Dapol:) B I haven’t tried the builder’s plates, but I removed the shed plates on mine. They were attached with a (slightly over large) blob of cyano type glue. I levered them off with a knife and they came off easily, but left a small blob of glue underneath. This I removed with a light sand and T cut and it disappeared under my weathering, but was slightly glossier than the rest before I weathered. I think the builder’s plates would be the same, although slightly larger of course! Andy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 23 hours ago, 34theletterbetweenB&D said: How bad was the H-D 28? Better than the Deltic. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Totally off topic to the Dapol Model, but can anyone tell me where diesel locomotives that worked into Glasgow Buchanan Street were re-fuelled, did they go round to Eastfield or was Diesel refeulling available at Balornock? Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasslands Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 My BR Blue 29 arrived today and I am very happy with it. I'm yet to give it a run, but I will do that tomorrow. I don't see any changeable headcodes in the box, though. Does the model not come with any? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Daddyman Posted February 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 5, 2020 How do the colours on these look in the flesh (the upper green on the two-tone, and the rail blue)? I only ask because of course Dapol have "form" with poor colour choices, and the upper green looks odd in the pre-production photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasslands Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Daddyman said: How do the colours on these look in the flesh (the upper green on the two-tone, and the rail blue)? I only ask because of course Dapol have "form" with poor colour choices, and the upper green looks odd in the pre-production photos. Funny you mention that... I did do an NBL line up last night. Kernow win for me with that nice satin finish... the Dapol blue of the 29 is a bit flat or matt, but it is much closer to correct than the seaweed colour of the first Class 22. I'll take some more tonight 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 59 minutes ago, Grasslands said: Funny you mention that... I did do an NBL line up last night. Kernow win for me with that nice satin finish... the Dapol blue of the 29 is a bit flat or matt, but it is much closer to correct than the seaweed colour of the first Class 22. I'll take some more tonight Is the yellow correct on D6129 there where there's a horizontal step between the windscreen yellow coming down and the yellow front? without looking at reference pictures, it looks odd and the style on D6318 looks more what I would have expected 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2020 Is correct for D6129 but not neccessarily on others.... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Classes 21/22/29 looked sad enough at the best of times, but those three in their last days at Glasgow Works are positively heart-breaking ! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasslands Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 hours ago, GordonC said: Is the yellow correct on D6129 there where there's a horizontal step between the windscreen yellow coming down and the yellow front? without looking at reference pictures, it looks odd and the style on D6318 looks more what I would have expected I would agree with Phil for D6129 and it looks like the other Dapol BR Blue one that is imminent has a different iteration of the yellow (I think the 'yet to be released' one has yellow ends that go further up the cab). Any feedback on my headcode paper query? Was it missing in mine or does the model simply not come with any optional headcodes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 hours ago, caradoc said: Classes 21/22/29 looked sad enough at the best of times, but those three in their last days at Glasgow Works are positively heart-breaking ! I know ! Sorry - but it did illustrate the point..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasslands Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Here are some more BR Blue and yellow comparisons for you (doubling as a bit of NBL porn). And a Lego robot for no reason. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted February 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) D6129 had blue in Inverurie 'minimalist' style along with 4 others - D6108, D6119, D6124 and D6137. The other blue Dapol class 29 is the more fullsome Eastfield St Rollox style which only D6100 and D6107 received. The remaining 13 locos were all TTG FYE by withdrawal. I should add that D6119 received a re-paint in 1971 with St Rollox yellow fronts, 4-months before withdrawal... [Thanks to A. Sayer's recent class 21/29 book] Edited February 5, 2020 by stovepipe 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Grasslands said: Any feedback on my headcode paper query? Was it missing in mine or does the model simply not come with any optional headcodes? Not sure if this is of any help but Heljan 17 s & 27s both came with paper headcode options including the quirky variations often found on Scottish lines such as ***2 or ***1. HTH David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2020 Heljan headcode fonts havent always been accurate... better commercial versions are available. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Both the current blue and green 29 models appear to have the same headcodes, ie ..1. No alternatives supplied, not sure how easy they would be to change (particularly if wanting them to be illuminated). They are also set quite far back behind the headcode box "glass", which is noticable when viewed from above particularly. Colour wise they look good, the BR blue shade is much better than the class 22 imho. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) The Scots were prone to economy with headcodes often displaying only the train class in a random position in the digits.... We have yet to find a model that we havent been able to change headcodes on even if that means sacrificing the original glazing when the headcode has been printed on the back. Not usually the case with Dapol..... Precision Labels versions have always worked well for us.... Edited February 6, 2020 by Phil Bullock 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium thegreenhowards Posted February 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 6, 2020 I’ve now fitted a sound chip to my Dapol Class 21. I chose the Coastal DCC product, recorded off a DB class 218 which had a similar engine, although how much the hydraulic transmission would affect the sound I’m not sure. Kevin has programmed all of the Dapol light settings onto the Loksound chip. It sounds nice and bassy but I’ve no idea whether it’s accurate. Here are a couple of short videos of it running on my layout Gresley Jn. Any comments on the sound welcome. Andy 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted February 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 6, 2020 OK, so what do people think of the visibility of the communicating doors on Dapol's class 29? As far as I was aware these were panelled over during conversion, and yes the weld lines did become steadily more visible as withdrawal approached, but surely not when first converted? (Rails photo) It's almost like they have been inspired by Hornby! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, stovepipe said: OK, so what do people think of the visibility of the communicating doors on Dapol's class 29? As far as I was aware these were panelled over during conversion, and yes the weld lines did become steadily more visible as withdrawal approached, but surely not when first converted? (Rails photo) It's almost like they have been inspired by Hornby! Compare with these two: Picture from same Flickr photostream as Phil Bullock used upthread. One on right looks to slightly show door outline below headcode box, but nothing above. Picture of real ones suggests a pretty “clean” face compared to model, e.g. lamp irons also seem more prominent, presumably an issue of what can be reproduced commercially? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasslands Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 12 hours ago, stovepipe said: OK, so what do people think of the visibility of the communicating doors on Dapol's class 29? As far as I was aware these were panelled over during conversion, and yes the weld lines did become steadily more visible as withdrawal approached, but surely not when first converted? (Rails photo) It's almost like they have been inspired by Hornby! I was curious and had a look through a few photos of these last night. It does seem that the recesses on the gang doors are more prominent on the two/tone green versions (most shots including a dusting of dirt). Conversely, the doors are very smoothly welded on most BR Blue versions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLIBOD17 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Has anybody applied the bufferbeam details yet ? I notice there's differently shaped receptacle holes but without any illustrations that I can see on the instruction sheets it's a reference to prototypical images :) The drawgear hook itself seems to be red on the green liveried version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 14 hours ago, stovepipe said: OK, so what do people think of the visibility of the communicating doors on Dapol's class 29? 'Tis the old story, that as the general level of fidelity improves, what would have been overlooked on a less refined model comes to the fore. This is rather like the old issue on Bach's mk1s with mountainous representations of the roof panel welds, which BR were extremely proud of having flush welded with no further finishing required. I had to scrape them off until Bach saw the light. If it offends, then filler it has to be. Never having seen a 29 in reality it escapes my notice: but the oval bufferheads with the long axis off level, eye gouging! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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