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"Dapol's new models use its excellent Class 22 tooling, as the Class 21/29 shared the same bodyshell as their diesel-hydraulic cousins." Model Rail, June 2018. I sincerely hope not...

 Indeed. The rather significant length difference makes this impossible. But if there has been some 'carry over' in aspects like the general body side profile, that would neatly explain the inadequately represented bevelled turnunder of the lower body side seen on the 21/29 EP. The 22 had a much less steeply angled turnunder, which by eye looks suspiciously akin to that of the 21/29 EP.

 

Regarding the cab front ends, my recollection is that these were castings and common across 21/22/29, but with different fixtures and fittings hung on them. If that is correct, some of the CAD from the 22 might well have been reused as a basis.

 

Hey ho. Let's wait and see what Dapol actually put in front of us.

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"Dapol's new models use its excellent Class 22 tooling, as the Class 21/29 shared the same bodyshell as their diesel-hydraulic cousins." Model Rail, June 2018.

 

I sincerely hope not.

 

Geoff Endacott

 

Crikey, that's appallingly bad journalism.  :nono:

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"Dapol's new models use its excellent Class 22 tooling, as the Class 21/29 shared the same bodyshell as their diesel-hydraulic cousins." Model Rail, June 2018.

 

I sincerely hope not.

 

Geoff Endacott

One would have to be off their head if he/she is to believe that, especially after Dapol have showed up both CAD images and first EP samples.

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 Indeed. The rather significant length difference makes this impossible. But if there has been some 'carry over' in aspects like the general body side profile, that would neatly explain the inadequately represented bevelled turnunder of the lower body side seen on the 21/29 EP. The 22 had a much less steeply angled turnunder, which by eye looks suspiciously akin to that of the 21/29 EP.

 

Regarding the cab front ends, my recollection is that these were castings and common across 21/22/29, but with different fixtures and fittings hung on them. If that is correct, some of the CAD from the 22 might well have been reused as a basis.

 

Hey ho. Let's wait and see what Dapol actually put in front of us.

 

Oh good, I thought I was going mad. From memory, aren't the 21/29s about 6 feet longer?

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Amateurs, I knew I stopped getting that mag for a reason.

 

Yep, the same amateurs that have given us highly accurate models of the Sentinel, USA Tank and forthcoming J70. The b*stards... 

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Received from Rails this am.

 

 

Below is the revised full list of Class 21 & 29's due for release at the end of the year. Some of these models have had number/livery changes. If you have one on pre order, it may be useful information!

4D-025-001_3389226_Qty1_cat.jpg?preset=l Class 21 D6118 in BR green 4D-025-001
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** Running number change - previously announced as Class 21 D6121 in BR green**

Buy now - £129.15
4D-025-001_3389226_Qty1_cat.jpg?preset=l Class 21 D6118 in BR green - DCC fitted 4D-025-001D
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** Running number change - previously announced as Class 21 D6121 in BR green DCC**

Buy now - £147.84 RRP: £173.93
4D-025-001_3389226_Qty1_cat.jpg?preset=l Class 21 D6118 in BR green - DCC sound fitted 4D-025-001S
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** Running number change - previously announced as Class 21 D6121 in BR green DCC & Sound**

Buy now - £249.84 RRP: £293.93
4D-025-001_3389226_Qty1_cat.jpg?preset=l Class 21 D6120 in BR green 4D-025-002
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** Running number change - previously announced as Class 21 D6110 in BR green**

Buy now - £129.15
4D-025-001_3389226_Qty1_cat.jpg?preset=l Class 21 D6120 in BR green - DCC fitted 4D-025-002D
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** Running number change - previously announced as Class 21 D6110 in BR green DCC** Buy now - £147.84

4D-025-001_3389226_Qty1_cat.jpg?preset=l Class 21 D6120 in BR green - DCC sound fitted 4D-025-002S
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** Running number change - previously announced as Class 21 D6110 in BR green DCC & Sound**

Buy now - £249.84 RRP: £293.93
4D-025-001_3389226_Qty1_cat.jpg?preset=l Class 21 D6105 in BR green with small yellow panels 4D-025-003
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** Running number change - previously announced as Class 21 D6116 in BR green**

Buy now - £129.15 RRP: £151.94
4D-025-001_3389226_Qty1_cat.jpg?preset=l Class 21 D6105 in BR green with small yellow panels - DCC fitted 4D-025-003D
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** Running number change - previously announced as Class 21 D6116 in BR green DCC**

Buy now - £147.84 RRP: £173.93
4D-025-001_3389226_Qty1_cat.jpg?preset=l Class 21 D6105 in BR green with small yellow panels - DCC sound fitted 4D-025-003S
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** Running number change - previously announced as Class 21 D6116 in BR green DCC & Sound**

Buy now - £249.84 RRP: £293.93
4D-025-001_3389226_Qty1_cat.jpg?preset=l Class 21 D6122 in BR green with small yellow panels 4D-025-004
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** Running number change - previously announced as Class 21 D6120 in BR green**

Buy now - £129.15 RRP: £151.94
4D-025-001_3389226_Qty1_cat.jpg?preset=l Class 21 D6122 in BR green with small yellow panels - DCC fitted 4D-025-004D
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** Running number change - previously announced as Class 21 D6120 in BR green DCC**

Buy now - £147.84 RRP: £173.93
4D-025-001_3389226_Qty1_cat.jpg?preset=l Class 21 D6122 in BR green with small yellow panels - DCC sound fitted 4D-025-004S
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** Running number change - previously announced as Class 21 D6120 in BR green DCC & Sound**

Buy now - £249.84 RRP: £293.93
4d-025-001.JPG?preset=large-thumb Class 29 6112 BR Two Tone Green Full Yellow Ends 4D-014-000
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Buy now - £129.15 RRP: £151.94
4d-025-001.JPG?preset=large-thumb Class 29 6112 BR Two Tone Green Full Yellow Ends - DCC Fitted 4D-014-000D
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Buy now - £148.60 RRP: £174.82
4d-025-001.JPG?preset=large-thumb Class 29 6112 BR Two Tone Green Full Yellow Ends - Sound Fitted 4D-014-000S
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Buy now - £249.84 RRP: £293.93
4d-025-001.JPG?preset=large-thumb Class 29 #D6114 BR Green Small Yellow Warning Panel 4D-014-001
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Buy now - £129.15 RRP: £151.94
4d-025-001.JPG?preset=large-thumb Class 29 #D6114 BR Green Small Yellow Warning Panel - DCC Fitted 4D-014-001D
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Buy now - £148.60 RRP: £174.82
4d-025-001.JPG?preset=large-thumb Class 29 D6114 in BR green with small yellow panels - DCC sound fitted 4D-014-001S
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Buy now - £249.84 RRP: £293.93
4d-025-001.JPG?preset=large-thumb Class 29 #D6129 BR Blue Full Yellow Warning Panel 4D-014-002
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Buy now - £129.15 RRP: £151.94
4d-025-001.JPG?preset=large-thumb Class 29 #D6129 BR Blue Full Yellow Warning Panel - Sound Fitted 4D-014-002D
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Buy now - £148.60 RRP: £174.82
4d-025-001.JPG?preset=large-thumb Class 29 #D6129 BR Blue Full Yellow Warning Panel - Sound Fitted 4D-014-002S
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Buy now - £249.84 RRP: £293.93
4d-025-001.JPG?preset=large-thumb Class 29 D6107 BR Green Small Yellow Panels No Eyebrows 4D-014-003
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Buy now - £129.15 RRP: £151.94
4d-025-001.JPG?preset=large-thumb Class 29 D6107 BR Green SYP No Eyebrows DCC Fitted 4D-014-003D
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Buy now - £148.60 RRP: £174.82
4d-025-001.JPG?preset=large-thumb Class 29 D6107 BR Green SYP No Eyebrows - Sound Fitted 4D-014-003S
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Buy now - £249.84 RRP: £293.93
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Peter C.

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Wise to stay away from D6121/6122 they had a cab swap which changed their appearances.

Note D6129 is the only one now being made without eyebrows above the cab windows (though the stock picture shows it with eyebrows).

I just looked at Hattons website, there picture shows the with eyebrows.. so obviously both toolings exist.

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I don't recall any particular rage occasioned by the original listings, so why have they done it? Why convert Pilot Scheme members from plain green to SYP, thereby excluding their initial GN and GE 'exploits'?

 

Joins the GN/Thameslink timetable in my expanding list of undelivered promises!

 

The Nim.

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Class 29 #D6129 BR Blue Full Yellow Warning Panel - Sound Fitted 4D-014-002D - surely a misprint or an absolute bargain - at £148.50.

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It’s DCC fitted only.

 

Roy

 

The description needs tweaking; I had assumed that was the case as each loco is available in the three different configurations, and this is the only one that doesn't follow the pattern. 

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........................................................ excluding their initial GN and GE 'exploits'?

 

 

Does this mean Dapol are not going to produce a version as first allocated to the GE Section - D6110-9 (30A Stratford) and/or D6120-37 (32B Ipswich) .?

 

Paul 

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Well, a couple of candidates do fall into your number range. I don't know offhand when the GE got rid of theirs, but the GN ones moved north prior to any yellow warning panels being applied.

 

The Nim.

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Well, a couple of candidates do fall into your number range. I don't know offhand when the GE got rid of theirs, but the GN ones moved north prior to any yellow warning panels being applied.

 

The Nim.

The Great Eastern locomotives headed north at the same time.

 

 

Does this mean Dapol are not going to produce a version as first allocated to the GE Section - D6110-9 (30A Stratford) and/or D6120-37 (32B Ipswich) .?

 

Paul 

They are doing D6118 and D6120 in plain green.

 

The version they are not doing is D6100-09 with the two part radiator grille as fitted when new to the Great Northern.

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A few colour views.  Apologies if we've had any of these before.

 

5961410931_0289e2d0b1_z.jpgstrathclyde - 6107 withdrawn st rollox glasgow 9-72 JL by John Law, on Flickr

 

33992361431_02e94529b2_z.jpgD6129 by Richard, on Flickr

D6129 of 32B (Ipswich) on a trip working at Mellis Jct.1960.  (Side benefit of slight view of unpainted wood in unfitted open wagon).

 

5315345761_38a2928b67_z.jpgD6108. by curly42, on Flickr

D6108 was one of the class 21 locos rebuilt as a class 29. The loco is seen here standing at Inverurie Works in July 1969.

 

https://flic.kr/p/fNJDsC

D6142 in the works yard at Inverurie during a railfan's visit in May 1966

 

https://flic.kr/p/y8iMf6

D6143 at Inverurie Works in May 1966

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