Eric & Gripper Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 How about a J39 into a J27. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m mcdermott Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 now now frozen thingys have a cuppa with mike then a ponder im sure you,ll get the answer . im all for a kettle but no more of this silliness mali Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Hi Sean as you seem to have hit the buffers with the Trans-Pennine conversion I thought I'd how you how I had got round the problem. First I decided the MBSK was going to be my power coach as one of the plans was to run mixed formations with the 123 so as the buffets had gone by then they could not be used. I had been experimenting with the newer Hornby DMU bogie for some time, (the Hornby VEP unit power bogie seems identical and the Hornby DMU side frames will clip onto it), and they proved to be quite capable of hauling 8 coaches with strategically placed weight above them. As you will see from the attached photos I got it to fit into the brake compartment, just, although some of the wires intruded into the first passenger compartment a little, I suspect a little tidier wire routing would eliminate it all together. The motor mount and motor for the Class 124 MBSK. Interior for the MBSK. Note the added lead weight crammed between the toilets to balance up the coach for the weight above the motor. With the body on. Little or no intrusion into the first compartment apart from a couple of wires. Finally a photo, courtesy of Wibble of a 5 car set on Hornsey Road depot. At this time it was running with a trailer second from a 123 as the units own trailer second and buffet where unfinished. Hope the above re-kindles your enthusiasm. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 6, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2013 Cheer up Sean. Look what I found in my might finish one day box. DMC DMC MBS MBS TRBF TRBF TS MBS with Lima power unit MBS with Lima power unit DMC DMC Converted from Triang coaches with scratch built ends, now broken. Except the TS is Lima. The Lima power bogie comes from their 0-4-0 american looking shunter and will shift all six coaches. It was mounted in the MBS but the bogie headstocks that fixed to the power unit have broken and gone AWOL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 6, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2013 Hi Sean Do you mean the cabs, they were to be scratchbuilt like I do my locomotives. The shelf where I housed my DMUs fell off the wall one day and the result was the glazing bars were smashed. You should see what happened to my Cravens unit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 6, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2013 Hi Sean The lack of progress was not due to the shelf incident but there is no need for a six coach North of England train in a North East London loco depot, especially when the fiddle yard is only 2 ft long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 6, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2013 As for Co-Bos I started these two in 1985, they remain in the might finish one day box. Both are scratch built from plastic card. One has a Hornby Western power bogie with a class 29 pick up bogie. The other has the opposite arrangement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 6, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2013 My last hijack. The damaged Cravens unit and another might one day get finished project a Swindon 4 car Inter-city unit. The wonders of Triang coach bodies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Thanks Swindon. It appears from your pictures that you have also retained the Bachmann MK1 chassis and cut a hole for the power bogie. Can you recall if these are the same ones as Hornby fit to their class 121 bubble car? Only reason I ask is that the one I used on the class 128 parcels car didn't run too well on DCC. I have decided that, as a result, the Replica chassis will now be used under the class 128 DPU so at least it won't go to waste. A rather timely reminder about the additional weights at the other end of the coach too. Fortunately, if I do continue with the plan to make the TBFK into the "power" car it has a transverse toilet compartment that can be filled with extra weight. Whilst my enthusiasm doesn't need rekindling as such, the comments and suggestions above go a long way to spurring me on to a satisfactory solution. I'm confident I'll be able to find a solution to this issue, but just feel that I might tackle something a little more simple to re-charge my modelling batteries so to speak. Cheers. Sean. Sean, Can't comment on the DCC question as I'm still an old fashioned DC modeler. (Cost far too much to convert everything, especially the small shunter fleet which haven't the room for a chip anyhow). You are right in that I did use the Bachmann chassis with a hole cut in it, and the motor is the same one as Hornby use in their Met-Cam 101, the 121 and I have now found out the same as in the VEP. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Hi Sean, Just noticed your comment re. the Hornby motor not working too well on DCC. They can be made to behave with a Bachmann 36-553 decoder. With back-emf enabled, set CV#54 = 05 and CV#55 = 20. That should sort it out - unless there is a mechanical fault of course. All the best, Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ad1968 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Hehe love the windows. Looks like a quality product now. Excellent weathering just look at those oily bogies (urghh just realised what i said there) Not the usual applcation of black and brown like you get from some firms.up north. I look forward to some more of this stuff. Right get back to your wicked then. And. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Quick question, what d you use to make sure you get a flat side to your coaches, as I Do have some to cut and shut myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ad1968 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Some really crisp,sharp work there matey, shes looking well! regards And. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Hi Sean, Nice work on those grilles. The catches are going to be an exacting task, but judging by the close-up photo, will be very nice indeed. All the best, Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Hi Sean, The latches are imilar to a door handle, the main shaft is slightly tapered with the handle going off a 90 degrees iand continuing in a similar tape defore having a sharply rounded off end. Looking good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Hi Sean, I think you are being rather self-deprecating about the rivet counting! That work on the grille has completely changed the appearance of the roof (much for the better!). Now if you were a real rivet counter like me, you would have had to mention that the rivets/bolts holding the grille are pitched differently on the Heljan moulded-on one and the etched Shawplan example. I'll be back off to the darkened room then. All the best, Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Yes Sean, a lot of people don't understand what I'm on about most of the time! It's just that I noticed the fixings/rivets around the flange of those two grilles are pitched differently in relation to the eight supports which radiate out from the centre. All the best, Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Brian Used my design for the Fan grill which has the rings as part of the design and fits stright on to the Heljan body with out any filling or fileing. Standard and replacement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I think I see what you mean Colin. Each "rib" from the centre on the Heljan version has a rivet at the end and one in between as well as those on the outer ring whearas Brians has a different configuration with only one ring and not adjacent to any "ribs". His class 26 roof fan is different again and I'm now finding it difficult to contain my excitement whilst I find out how many rivets that one has..... WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO ME.....! :o/ He heh. Cheers. Sean. Hi Sean, Sorry for what I have started here. Being ignorant of these matters, it looks to me like there are three different versions of the grille in model form shown in the various recent pictures and none look quite like the one in your picture of 26 038 (love the missing bolts around the rim). I shall say no more, but this rivet counting thingy is compelling... All the best, Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Do not count rivets after drinking a lot of beer, you get too many, Hic. See I got them both in the one line!!! Sound of door closing. OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Ozzyo Is that Pints or Gallons? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Ozzyo Is that Pints or Gallons? You will see at Telford! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I might try that later on and see if I count 48..... Coat also got! Cheers. Sean. I gave up counting rivets when I put them on a turn table!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted August 8, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 8, 2013 I'd agree in the main with your comments Colin, but bear in mind, the one on my model is Brians class 27 etch, which has subtle differences to his class 26 etch and of course, the pictures I posted are of a class 26. For info, (and finally proving how sad I actually am), I counted 24 rivets around the prototype and the same number on my 27. Anywho, given that the Archers rivet strips I'm using are not quite exact for this loco, I'm happy with a few compromises. Now, can we get away from rivet counting and maybe chat about beer or something???? He heh, Cheers. Sean. As any fule no, the class 26, 27 and 33 roof fan grilles are all different . Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Those rivets do look the buisness, how do you apply them Sean? Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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