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5 minutes ago, Waverley West said:

Hi folks

 

Well, so much for 2020 being a quieter year. January has already been and gone without a single post on this thread. I have however been chipping away at various projects, including the latest two 47/4s in the shape of InterCity-liveried 47593 and 47642. I have also been working on some stone sheets to replace the walls through the station and Princes St. This has long been an ambition of mine, as the walls as they are are actually modelled on how they were in the early 2000s and they were quite a different colour during the 80s, especially after they were cleaned around 1984 I think. Anyway, more on that later.

 

In the meantime, here are a few shots of the latest 47s, probably the last new 47s on the layout until Heljan brings out its latest incarnation. I'll see what that's like before I make any more decisions on 47s for the layout.

 

Here is 47642 Strathisla pootling around the station. The sharp eyed amongst you will notice that the tunnel portal has been repainted, as part of my new wall scheme. The aim is to better match the colouring of the walls during the 80s, although within 6-7 years of being cleaned around '84, the walls darkened again considerably. It ain't easy modelling a real location sometimes! Some exhaust darkening has also been added.

 

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and then back on shed at Haymarket alongside 47517...

 

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Here is 47593 Galloway Princes...

 

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Meanwhile, a gricer watches 27052 as it pulls into platform 16 on a service from Fife...

 

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And finally for now, a couple of black and white versions...

 

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Hope to be back soon with another update.

 

Happy modelling,

Dave

 

 

Hi Dave

 

Very Nice as always at capturing that moment in time, and Your Photo's always have that quality to them.

We can all relate to the Guy hanging out the window looking at the Class 27052... we have all been there lol

 

Hope all is well my friend and family all keeping well to bud.

 

Regards

Jamie

 

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21 hours ago, 7APT7 said:

Hi Dave

 

The 47642 as one of my favourite liveries more so with the 'ScotRail' and 'Stang' / 'Scottie Dog'... Really nice photo that mate.

 

Regards

Jamie

 

Not "Scottie Dog", please - they're the black ones.  The Eastfield logo is a "West Highland White Terrier" or "Westie".

 

Alasdair

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On 11/11/2019 at 14:32, citadel12003 said:

Hi Dave,

 

Loved the video...

 

The Mk 2's really do look well, very tastefully finished off.  Very well done.

 

The details in the "background" are very effective as well.  I was particularly impressed by the mail bags with labels in the brute trollies on the platform.  Did you make these up yourself or are they proprietary items?  I don't recall seeing them before but I will need some of these for the brutes on Carlisle in due course ;)

 

Cheers for now,

 

Tom

 

Thanks Tom! Sorry, I've only just realised I didn't answer your question re. the mail bags. They're Modelscene "5089 mail bags". I paint mine "concrete" (!!) and then weather them and paint the tag white. I like them a lot too. You'll need a fair few for Carlisle too I should think!

 

https://www.petersspares.com/modelscene-5089-mail-bags-oo-gauge.ir

 

(other outlets are available)

 

Hope that helps!

 

Cheers

Dave

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On 01/02/2020 at 21:53, 7APT7 said:

Hi Dave

 

The 47642 as one of my favourite liveries more so with the 'ScotRail' and 'Stang' / 'Scottie Dog'... Really nice photo that mate.

 

Regards

Jamie

 

Yes, it's a Westie, Jamie, as Alastair says. You won't get away with that around here, you know!

 

Hope all is well with you. Life is as hectic here as ever. My mum is going into a care home at the end of the week, so we're all a bit nervous as to how she's going to take to it. It's a really nice home though, so I think we've done our best to find her somewhere nice. She'll be 90 next month, so she's not done badly living on her own with dementia since my dad died in 2015. From a selfish perspective, it will be nice to be able to pass on some of the responsibility for her, as it's been a worry and a lot of work at times keeping in her own home. 

 

Cheers

Dave

 

 

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On 18/11/2019 at 09:58, Waverley West said:

Thanks for the feedback, guys. Always appreciated! 

 

Work has been progressing on the various new 47s, most of which are now ready for reassembly after weathering.

 

In other news, I have started work on a sleeper rake after a bit of research into anglo-scottish sleeper formations of the 1980s. I've had some Mk 3 sleepers parked on a siding for quite a few years now, just waiting to make a start on the project. Hornby Mk 3 sleepers in blue/grey and intercity seem to be rarer than hen's teeth these days, so it was just as well I bought some when they first came out.  I'm planning on using 4 SLEP coaches, a couple of BGs in the centre of the rake and a couple of Mk 2f FO day coaches at the rear. I already have a spare FO which I've already weathered, so I'm currently working on the other one. The BGs are nearly ready too. Then all that will be left to do is fit the corridor connectors.

 

Here are some more piccies of 97201, which has now had its nameplates applied (after these pics were taken).

 

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A couple more shots of some of the Mk 2fs...

 

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And finally for now, some shots of a recent renumbering. I originally renumbered this loco to 47550, but it has now been renumbered again to 47470 University of Edinburgh, as it was shortly after naming without high-intensity headlights. This has freed up the 47550 number slot to do this loco in largo logo livery with a blue roof. 

 

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I'm hoping to make good progress on finishing off the 47s over the next week or so, ready for ordering of yet more sound chips from Charlie.  I've also ordered some corridor connectors from York Modelmaking, so hopefully WW will at last see a regular sleeper service soon.

 

Hope to be back soon. 

 

Cheers for now,
Dave

 

 

Hi Dave

 

Great set of RTC Livery Stock Running round, I must of slipped pass me as its further up the thread 

Do you have a huge amount of RTC Livery Stock, I do like to see RTC Livery, it looks very nice.

 

Hope all is well bud.

 

Regards

Jamie

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10 hours ago, 7APT7 said:

 

Hi Dave

 

Great set of RTC Livery Stock Running round, I must of slipped pass me as its further up the thread 

Do you have a huge amount of RTC Livery Stock, I do like to see RTC Livery, it looks very nice.

 

Hope all is well bud.

 

Regards

Jamie

 

Hi Jamie,

 

Yes, that's my tribometer train, including SLW 97201. As far as RTC stock is concerned, that's all I have apart from Test Car 6 (a Bachmann Mk 2 Open), which sometimes runs with my MGR rake and other rakes on test runs. 

 

I agree, it's a very smart-looking livery and was pretty striking for its time in a sea of blue and grey!

 

Cheers 

Dave

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Stunning stuff as always Dave! The photos from the last few posts are so atmospheric, the lighting and depth on your layout is absolutely fantastic. Apologies if I’ve missed it/if it’s already been said but where are the corridor connections for the MK2Fs from? They look really nice!

 

Keep up the good work.

 

Thanks,

 

Will

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Thanks Will, nice to hear from you again. Hope all is well.

 

I get my corridor connections from York Modelrail:

 

https://www.yorkmodelrail.com/00-scale/corridor-connectors

 

I really like them, although I sometimes only use one connector between coaches as I find they can causes derailments if I use two. I don't think it's very obvious if only one is used though, and they do look nice. They also generally work OK in push mode on my HSTs and push-pull rakes too. The trick I think is to make sure they are only loosely touching on straight sections. That way they shouldn't cause derailments.

 

Gaps between coaches just don't look right to me. I'll happily accept a looser coupling between coaches if the gap is closed up by a corridor connector. I prefer that approach to just trying to reduce the gap.

 

Hope that helps!

 

Cheers 

Dave

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7 hours ago, Waverley West said:

Thanks Will, nice to hear from you again. Hope all is well.

 

I get my corridor connections from York Modelrail:

 

https://www.yorkmodelrail.com/00-scale/corridor-connectors

 

I really like them, although I sometimes only use one connector between coaches as I find they can causes derailments if I use two. I don't think it's very obvious if only one is used though, and they do look nice. They also generally work OK in push mode on my HSTs and push-pull rakes too. The trick I think is to make sure they are only loosely touching on straight sections. That way they shouldn't cause derailments.

 

Gaps between coaches just don't look right to me. I'll happily accept a looser coupling between coaches if the gap is closed up by a corridor connector. I prefer that approach to just trying to reduce the gap.

 

Hope that helps!

 

Cheers 

Dave


Hi Dave,

 

All good thanks - a house move has bred a new project which is good to be finally back modelling again. Hope all is well with you! 
 

That’s absolutely fantastic thanks! When I get round to purchasing some I’m definitely going to be fitting them! 
 

Keep up the good work.

 

Will

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1 hour ago, Waverley West said:

Maybe I've gone a bit overboard on the (mainly Scottish) 47s recently...

 

Err. No.

 

Looks great. Some wonderful models.

 

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8 hours ago, Waverley West said:

Maybe I've gone a bit overboard on the Scottish 47s recently...

 

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7 hours ago, Waverley West said:

Some more piccies as promised...

 

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Superb Dave, as always...

s it ever possible to go a bit overboard on the (mainly Scottish) 47s.... Nooooo...

 

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Whilst reading through some old Rail magazines before disposing of them I came across the 2010 article on WW where Dave is quoted as saying his favourite era was the late Deltic period. What changed to end up with WW set 8 or so years after this? Personally fewer duffs and more class 26,27,40 and 55 would enhance for me what is already a brilliant layout. 

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On 29/02/2020 at 04:56, young37215 said:

Whilst reading through some old Rail magazines before disposing of them I came across the 2010 article on WW where Dave is quoted as saying his favourite era was the late Deltic period. What changed to end up with WW set 8 or so years after this? Personally fewer duffs and more class 26,27,40 and 55 would enhance for me what is already a brilliant layout. 

 

An interesting and valid point! Waverley West has been and probably always will be firmly set in the period 1979 - 89, plus a few personal favourites from the period through to 1994. I think as the years have gone by my favourite modelling period has tended to shift to the second half of the 80s, probably mainly due to the emergence of so many smart and colourful liveries on the same stock that ran in the early 80s. I think the 1980s version of the ScotRail livery and the various InterCity and Railfreight liveries were some of the smartest looking liveries to grace stock over the past century.

 

Having said that, Deltics and the early 80s are still very much part of WW. I've ordered three of the new Accurascale Deltics which will replace my Bachmann ones when they arrive. I've also ordered a few of the new Accurascale 37s too. 

 

The preponderance of duffs at the moment is solely due to the fact that I've been replacing my old Heljan 47 fleet over the past year or so. I'm sure things will gradually return to normal now with the re-emergence of my 26s, 27s and 40s. I've actually been buying a few of the latest batch of Heljan 26s and 27s (including a couple each of the Railfreight and Coal Sector 26s). These are the next locos on my list for attention in the WW works. I agree that haulage variety on WW has been lacking recently, but this is just a temporary situation due to my 47 fleet renewal. Normal service will hopefully be resumed over the coming weeks and months! 

 

One of my biggest attractions to Waverley in the 80s was the sheer variety of motive power and stock, so there's no risk of it becoming monopolised by 47s in the long term. My 47 fleet is now complete, at least until Heljan's new version emerges. What happens then will depend on the quality of the model. It's going to have to be good though to get me to replace my Bachmann versions, as I'm very happy with them.

 

Hope that explains my thinking!

 

Cheers

Dave

 

 

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To alleviate any duff fatigue people may have, this object of beauty arrived in the post the other day...

 

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After weathering, it will spend much of its time parked in the East Yard at Haymarket, representing the old steam crane that was kept there during the 80s (not quite sure when it was replaced, but it certainly survived into the ScotRail era, as I've seen a photo of it with ScotRail 47s in the main shed in the background. I'm sure it will have the odd run-out round the layout too. I have an old Thompson BG which will make a perfect companion for it, after it's been resprayed into faded red (the coach that is, not the crane).

 

In other news, I've been working away on 15 sheets of plasticard stone sheet to produce the finish I'm looking for for the walls through Waverley and Princes St after they were cleaned in the mid-80s. Once I'm happy with the results, the old walls will be removed and replaced. I will then replace the (surface) ballast through this section of the layout with ballast which is closer to the colouring of the ballast in the second half of the 80s (it currently represents the ballast as of the early 2000s).

 

There will then be no stopping me with detailing of the station throat area and the Princes Street section, as there are so many details to add. I'm really looking forward to getting to that stage. It's just the thought of replacing all those walls that's putting me off at the moment!

 

Plenty to get on with. I just need to find the time! By the time I've finished a working day, I'm too tired these days to do much modelling in the evening and finding time at the weekend isn't very easy at the moment either. 

 

Cheers for now,

Dave

 

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"You can probably justify a class 46 once Heljan or Bachmann release a sealed beam version."

 

Yep, there's another new model I'm keeping an eye on. There are far too many at the moment. So much for me trying to reduce my modelling budget!

 

I already have 45144 (shown below parked in the sunshine at Haymarket), but a 46 and maybe another 45/0 and/or 45/1 wouldn't go amiss...

 

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2 hours ago, Waverley West said:

 

I already have 45144 (shown below parked in the sunshine at Haymarket)

 

2 hours ago, Waverley West said:

 

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Are you sure that’s not your layout Dave? :D

 

Your pics are always really cracking :yes:

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