martin_l_jones Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 This model has gone a bit quiet just lately. No second batch ? I wonder whether there are mods taking place. I was under the impression a Freightliner Grey would be released, wouldn't surprise me if we see a Powerhaul 86637 released in 2011. Hopefully a follow on batch will include any mods that have been raised implemented Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevesthecat Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I was wondering the same as Martin, I think there were some 2011 catalogues at Warley is there any mention of a further batch? mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Hopefully a follow on batch will include any mods that have been raised implemented I was wondering the same as Martin, I think there were some 2011 catalogues at Warley is there any mention of a further batch? mark Yes please........... Even if only the pantograph. Any further advice from anybody as to how well the first batch have sold please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Any further advice from anybody as to how well the first batch have sold please. In a word (or three): "Not very well...." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 In a word (or three): "Not very well...." Price? Detail Errors? (People holding back hoping these might be corrected on a second batch - almost a case of 'who dares wins'.) Lack of interest in the prototype? (Though with a hundred examples, a lifespan of fourty years plus, a range of liveries and a reasonble geographical spread I would find this hard to take.) With regards to the first item I have just been on the Hattons Website. Noticed that the pre order price for the Bachmann Class 85 is £76. This is considerably cheaper than the £98 all five current releases of the Class 86 command, although that in turn is far less than the £134 RRP. However Hattons haven't moved the Class 86 to their bargain section - yet........... Remembering that many of the Westerns were unloved at the time they came out, ending up in the bargain section. However there is now only one example of D1023 (current batch) left in stock as I write this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted December 4, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 4, 2010 I'm looking forward to a reworked H***** class 86 Andi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Price? With regards to the first item I have just been on the Hattons Website. Noticed that the pre order price for the Bachmann Class 85 is £76. This is considerably cheaper than the £98 all five current releases of the Class 86 command, although that in turn is far less than the £134 RRP. However Hattons haven't moved the Class 86 to their bargain section - yet........... I waited for ages and bought a Freightliner Class 86 for £77 from a place in Carlisle, aladins cave, was up there for a few days and found it. He was saying his batch had not sold well at all, they are still selling them now for the same price on ebay. I just wanted a Freightliner Grey or a Powerhaul would be nice to double up as per prototype running, might be better to buy another in the same condition and renumber it.. The 2011 catalogue is shown on a few websites but I've not seen one so I don't know what it contains.. The Heljan site doesn't show a PIP and even states the first batch as new items!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 The thing that has stopped me buying one or two is the fact it is based on the locos in their latter years, and only really the Intercity livery example is of any use to me! Unfortunately, the model can't really represent the Intercity Executive or Rail Blue eras I prefer, nor can it be easily adapted into an 86/0 for the late 1960s era. Now, if they were to introduce the earlier body style and some earlier liveries, I'd be happy to take some on - but if sales have been as bad as has been suggested, I think we've got buckley's chance of any other versions being made and more chance of the model being slowly sidelined after a few more post BR livery issues. In fact, I can't help thinking we've got more chance of Hornby retooling their 86 to contemporary standards and releasing it as an 86/0 than Heljan doing much more with their model! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
66540Ruby Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 The thing that has stopped me buying one or two is the fact it is based on the locos in their latter years, and only really the Intercity livery example is of any use to me! Unfortunately, the model can't really represent the Intercity Executive or Rail Blue eras I prefer, nor can it be easily adapted into an 86/0 for the late 1960s era. Now, if they were to introduce the earlier body style and some earlier liveries, I'd be happy to take some on - but if sales have been as bad as has been suggested, I think we've got buckley's chance of any other versions being made and more chance of the model being slowly sidelined after a few more post BR livery issues. In fact, I can't help thinking we've got more chance of Hornby retooling their 86 to contemporary standards and releasing it as an 86/0 than Heljan doing much more with their model! Think this is a distinct possibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 [/b] Think this is a distinct possibility. Bound to be. I've repainted and modified three of the existing model to 1967 livery, so the law of Sodde dictates a superior factory finished model will be released shortly after.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Noticed (as of last night) that Hattons are now down to their last eight of the Freightliner version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 I beleive Heljan are relasing more 86s this year or have I misread??? NL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
59205 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I beleive Heljan are relasing more 86s this year or have I misread??? NL I think you have possibly misread. There are no new class 86's in the Heljan 2011 catalogue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Wonder if 'Model Rail' (George Dent) or 'Rail Express Modeller' are going to produce any articles in the near future on how to improve the Heljan Class 86, particularly as how to fit a better pantograph. Yours truly would find it most useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Just to let all fellow modellers know that Hattons have cut their prices on all five variants today ranging from £79 to £84. http://www.ehattons....aspx#02_11_2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Hmmm, lil cheaper. Question is, are they suitable for an NSE repaint? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Just to let all fellow modellers know that Hattons have cut their prices on all five variants today ranging from £79 to £84. http://www.ehattons....aspx#02_11_2011 Thanks from me but not from my wallet, just ordered two IC ones! As for the NSE repaint, not without a couple of mods (roof tanks and compressor). kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Hmmm might stick to trawling flea-bay for a Hornby one then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Would appear as tho Hattons have a few left.... Maybe a further price drop to come, as per the Westerns.. Hold tight.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trent Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Anyone recommend which Heljan model would be suitable for a Network Rail repaint/detail? I'm aware Hornby made 86901 but I prefer the look of the Heljan model. Thanks Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim s-w Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I'm aware Hornby made 86901 but I prefer the look of the Heljan model. Martin Are you completely mad? When you say prefer the look, have you ever seen a real class 86? :) Each to their own of course. The Hornby one is only powered on 1 bogie (just like a real class 86/9) Cheers Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Howes might be worth looking at too, I remember not too long ago, they had a couple of HJ 86s for around the £50 mark NL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim s-w Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Cool £40 is my target. Once (if) they reach this price I will start buying them en-masse and fitting Hornby bodies. Cheers Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40F Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 You might be in for a long wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trent Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Howes might be worth looking at too, I remember not too long ago, they had a couple of HJ 86s for around the £50 mark NL Not now, cheapest on their website is £110.00! A bit of Googling can find them around the £79 mark. Think that's the lowest I've seen them so far. Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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