250BOB Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Hi Guys, Have any of you tackled this loco yet, a quick look inside has indicated to me that it might prove difficult.....????? Any help and recommendations as to which decoder and where to fit it would be appreciated. Thanks...........................Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corax67 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Hi Bob - you could go for a Lenz Silver or even a Lenz Standard dropped into the space where the front chassis weight is fitted, just drop out the weight and off you go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 Hi Bob - you could go for a Lenz Silver or even a Lenz Standard dropped into the space where the front chassis weight is fitted, just drop out the weight and off you go. Hi Karl........I wish I could take out the weight, it would be easy without it I feel. My problem is that I do have gradients, and am always struggling for traction with trains, even though they are just over 1 in 100. I suppose it might be worth a try perhaps......I'll give it a go with a Standard, I have some of those around, and see what the traction is like. Cheers ........Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hale Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Kuehn N045 or 045. Both very small fully programmable decoders which will fit anywhere. Top quality, these will cope with up to 1A and I have one in my Hornby N15 which will only acceptable a small decoder. Typical European decoder, streets ahead of US sourced decoders in specification and performance.. Google DM- Toys, Daniel offers very good service and will take PayPal. My only connection is a very content customer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corax67 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 If retaining weight is an issue (isn't it for all of us hehe) then you could always open up the back of the smokebox and pop in a small chip like the TCM MC1 or a Lenz mini silver/gold - could also drop it into the bunker and run the wires through the cab floor but that involves a bit more surgery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corax67 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Oops, forgot - Squires tools used to sell "liquid lead" which was jars of incredibly fine lead shot (or some lead substitute) that could be poured into any suitable spaces on a chassis or bodyshell and sealed with epoxy resin. I bought some from them at a show years ago, probably Bristol show, and still have loads left as it goes a really long way so that might be an avenue to explore too if you need to fatten up your loco's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 22, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2011 Am I missing something? I plugged a TCS DP2X-UK straight into the socket. Why use anything else? Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 Am I missing something? I plugged a TCS DP2X-UK straight into the socket. Why use anything else? Keith I offered the body up after plugging in a TCS DP2X UK last night, but the decoder width is too wide to pass through the gap in the bottom of the boiler. Do I need to try again are suggesting.??? It looked a complete non starter, but you have got me thinking....I shall give it another go. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 22, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2011 I offered the body up after plugging in a TCS DP2X UK last night, but the decoder width is too wide to pass through the gap in the bottom of the boiler. Do I need to try again are suggesting.??? It looked a complete non starter, but you have got me thinking....I shall give it another go. Bob I think it was a bit tight but the body went back on with a bit of a wiggle as far as I can recall. Try offering it up at a slight angle so one side of the pcb goes in then the other. I definitely got one inside my Crab! The one loco I have where a weight needs to be removed and is designed to be is the Hall. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 I think it was a bit tight but the body went back on with a bit of a wiggle as far as I can recall. Try offering it up at a slight angle so one side of the pcb goes in then the other. I definitely got one inside my Crab! The one loco I have where a weight needs to be removed and is designed to be is the Hall. Keith Hey Keith..........you were right...!!!! Why did I think it wouldnt go I wonder, it fairly flew in, as you say, at an angle. Thanks for pushing me that way.......its running round perfectly. Cheers,..................Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 24, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24, 2011 Hey Keith..........you were right...!!!! Why did I think it wouldnt go I wonder, it fairly flew in, as you say, at an angle. Thanks for pushing me that way.......its running round perfectly. Cheers,..................Bob. A satisfactory conclusion then. At first glance it does look too tight. The problem I had was initially not finding the screw under the footplate and trying to force the body off. A quick call to Bachmann service pointed me in the right direction! Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 A satisfactory conclusion then. At first glance it does look too tight. The problem I had was initially not finding the screw under the footplate and trying to force the body off. A quick call to Bachmann service pointed me in the right direction! Keith Very Satisfactory indeed Keith.......Thanks. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Apologies for digging this thread up but in the intervening 7 1/2 years has anyone succeeded with any other direct fit decoder or is it definitely a DP2X-UK for this model? Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ianLMS Posted March 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2021 Bit late so probably not helpful but i have chipped 32-178 LMS Black lined model of 2715. The DCC Concepts/Gaugemaster/Hattons derived chip fitted perfectly where the old DC circuit board was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21, 2021 I've got a Lenz Standard +V2 in mine now, much better running than the DP2X-UK I had before, that I mentioned earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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