Pebbles Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Yeadon's Vol 47B. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2019 Ah! Class 398 then. But I submit that the front end of Classes 398, 124 (which is what I thought it might be) and BTP are very similar (at least at some point in their lives) demonstrating that even if no two of Fletcher's engines were the same there was a strong family likeness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted May 13, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2019 10 hours ago, Compound2632 said: Ah! Class 398 then. But I submit that the front end of Classes 398, 124 (which is what I thought it might be) and BTP are very similar (at least at some point in their lives) demonstrating that even if no two of Fletcher's engines were the same there was a strong family likeness. That's the one, it will be 1333, there's a couple of photos in Yeadon 47B and a few earlier ones in the NERA archive. It's a later build with longer frames and it should have a lower pitched boiler but the photos still show a large gap below the boiler. Drawings seem to be a bit generic and I can't find one exactly as I need it so there will have to be a bit of intelligent guesswork, there's no front end drawing so I'm using my BTP to get the cab profile right. There are however very good drawings of the tender, part of a series if articles in North Eastern Express a few years ago, including an original Nielson drawing in full colour. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted May 13, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2019 Yesterday's progress, cab front cut out and held up with blue tack. Tender inner frames. Tender footplate with the outline of the tank drawn on, should be fun... 16 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 13, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 13, 2019 So this will be for your 1898 operating sessions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ArthurK Posted May 13, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 13, 2019 Hi Paul There is a drawing at NRM of what I call the "curly" cab version of the 398 class. This is a Stephenson drawing of their 398 builds 2051-2080 & 2151-2180. This drawing has 9972 hand written in the bottom right corner. From memory this is the OPC reference. I also have the cab & tanks drawing of the Fletcher cab version of the 290 (J77) both have the cab front profile shown and they appear to be identical. The top corner radius is 1'6" (6mm) and the roof radius is 8' 0" (32mm). Hope this helps. I had visions of doing a kit for this. Then I asked myself which one? There didn't appear to be two the same! In the end I moved on to other things so the kit never materialised. ArthurK 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Worsdell forever Posted May 14, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2019 I did a test in card of the cab first and it seemed to fit so here it is cut out of brass, hope it fits but not a big job if I have to do it again. Lots of progress with the chassis too. 16 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Worsdell forever Posted May 20, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2019 Well, that looks a bit like a Fletcher cab, still needs a bit of fettling though. Buffer beam, drag beam, valances and buffers added to the footplate. 17 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Worsdell forever Posted May 22, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2019 Last night's efforts saw the start of a boiler. 17 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted May 22, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 22, 2019 I take it this one won't be a crimson lake coloured example Very nice work. Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Worsdell forever Posted May 28, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2019 Not managed to get much done lately but the smokebox is coming along. 17 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I like this. It's proper scratchbuilding. 3 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted June 2, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 2, 2019 The chassis now moves under power, There's only pick ups on the front two axles at the moment but it does work. You might notice that the motor has changed, there was nothing wrong with the first one (Mashima 10/20)but it was a bit long, it would have needed to lean forward to fit it in the boiler, this would have caused two problems, the first is the gearbox would have protruded quite a bit below the ashpan and second I would have had to remove quite a bit of the bottom of the boiler and the motor would have been showing. Replacing it with this 10/15 (as discussed here, early tests seem favourable) means it is totally hidden. 10 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted June 2, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 2, 2019 So, pick ups added to the rear wheels and it runs much better. Just needed a little nudge to get it going! 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 2, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 2, 2019 Some interesting raw whitemetal lurking there too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Worsdell forever Posted June 2, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Some interesting raw whitemetal lurking there too. Yes, started building the G2s a while ago and couldn't fild many photos of narrow planked ones with X strapping, now the NERA archive is online (members only) I've found quite a few so they will get correct numbers and details. I think this is a nice neat fit... 19 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Worsdell forever Posted June 4, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2019 The cab is now on along with splashers, spares from the BTP. Riveted panels must mean the tender is started. 20 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Worsdell forever Posted June 4, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2019 Good progress on the tender, the basic tank is built. 30 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 That's starting to look excellent (in fairness, it was front the first construction photos!) What do you use for cutting brass sheet? The several methods I've tried have ended up with very raggy or inaccurate edges, though that could just be me being ham fisted! Cheers J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted June 6, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2019 4 hours ago, JaymzHatstand said: That's starting to look excellent (in fairness, it was front the first construction photos!) What do you use for cutting brass sheet? The several methods I've tried have ended up with very raggy or inaccurate edges, though that could just be me being ham fisted! Cheers J Trust me, the cuts start off raggy... Internal cuts are with a fine piercing saw and fine files, external ones with large old tin snips and filed back. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 For most of my cutting out and folding I use a "Olfa P 450 Cutter", I bought mine off E Bay for a couple of quid though they cam also be had from DIY shops etc. Saves hours of work, just deep scribe, fold and break off. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 As above but I use a heavy duty knife( stanley etc). Then a quick rub with a file, like with etched parts. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted June 6, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2019 Tried with an Olfa cutter once and wasn't impressed, Snips work well for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 If you use curve tin snips they are designed for cutting straight. Much easier to use than straight ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trustytrev Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, micknich2003 said: For most of my cutting out and folding I use a "Olfa P 450 Cutter", I bought mine off E Bay for a couple of quid though they cam also be had from DIY shops etc. Saves hours of work, just deep scribe, fold and break off. Hello, I looked on ebay but they do not seem to be available now but clones are. trustytrev.:) Edited June 6, 2019 by trustytrev Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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