Vanders Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 That is without a doubt one of the most substitutional bits of modelling I have seen for a very long time. Absolutely stunning: I love the scale of it! What with this and Ron's Manchester Central we are getting spoilt. Who's for a crack at York?!? Don't forget jim s-w's P4 rendition of Birmingham New Street! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dave.C Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Wow, that roof is stunning. Are you planning on covering it with soot and grime? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted January 2, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 2, 2012 Just to add to the awed comments already posted! A true work of engineering and an absolute beauty to behold! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn-on-the-platform Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I would like to add my compliments to this thread. The detail and scale of the roof is particularly impressive. Amazing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Steve Hewitt Posted January 3, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2012 Hi Les and the team, Happy new year. I had the privilege of inspecting the underside of the baseboards of Lime Street some time ago and if you think the top is beyond belief you should see the wiring!!!!!!!!! Fabulous work guy's, keep it up. Cheers Mike Thanks Mike, and Happy New Year to you. John has spent time making the transport box for the new roof, and once its available we will be dismantling the main boards once again to install the second part of the signal control system (Platforms 6 to 11, plus the turntable release). Geoff has spent the Christmas period making the necessary boards, and including some new features in the control panels, which we hope to commission in the next couple of weeks. Whilst we are doing that, I'll try to photograph the main parts of the control system and then we can write it up on RMweb. Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Green Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Wow, that roof is stunning. Are you planning on covering it with soot and grime? Yes. It will be weathered. It is only painted in grey primer at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debs. Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Breathtaking!!!!!........Lime Street is surely one of life`s 'must-see' models! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Steve Hewitt Posted January 3, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2012 cant wait till Ally Pally,will be on the operating team Mike, You won't have to wait so long. Once the current upgrades are completed, John will be holding regular running sessions for the Ally Pally team, to ensure we put on a good show. Steve. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic21 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 An absolutely stunning layout Les! The roof is a modelling work of art and looks incredible, i will be definately looking out for this on the exhibition circuit!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spionkop Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Just brilliant. A 5-star construction. Happy memories of the starting point for many journeys. A Merseysider in exile 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Steve Hewitt Posted January 8, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2012 Thanks Mike, and Happy New Year to you. John has spent time making the transport box for the new roof, and once its available we will be dismantling the main boards once again to install the second part of the signal control system (Platforms 6 to 11, plus the turntable release). Geoff has spent the Christmas period making the necessary boards, and including some new features in the control panels, which we hope to commission in the next couple of weeks. Whilst we are doing that, I'll try to photograph the main parts of the control system and then we can write it up on RMweb. Steve. Here are the two storage/transport boxes with the roofs in place. The smaller roof - South - is actually in the larger box - 860mm wide x 600mm deep x 780mm high The larger - North - roof is located on shelf runners in its box which is 800 W x 800 H x 600 D. This allows two sections to slide within the arch space of the others, saving height. John tells me "I intend to make a "locating frame", that will sit on top of one box, and allow the second box to sit on top of that without sliding off during transit in the van. Each shelf is customised with wooden stops that hold the intended roof section in place without "sliding about" when handling the box. Details of the orientation of each roof panel is provided with the labelling on each shelf. Both boxes have yet to be varnished. This will be done prior to our next show." Safe storage for the roofs means we can now dismantle the main boards to enable the next series of upgrades to be be realised. Once these are completed, in the next couple of weeks, we will be ready to start serious training for the Ally Pally show in March. We are optimistic that the work we've done since our trip to Utracht will give us another sizable step forwards. Steve. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyrush Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Here are the two storage/transport boxes with the roofs in place. The smaller roof - South - is actually in the larger box - 860mm wide x 600mm deep x 780mm high The larger - North - roof is located on shelf runners in its box which is 800 W x 800 H x 600 D. This allows two sections to slide within the arch space of the others, saving height. John tells me "I intend to make a "locating frame", that will sit on top of one box, and allow the second box to sit on top of that without sliding off during transit in the van. Each shelf is customised with wooden stops that hold the intended roof section in place without "sliding about" when handling the box. Details of the orientation of each roof panel is provided with the labelling on each shelf. Both boxes have yet to be varnished. This will be done prior to our next show." Safe storage for the roofs means we can now dismantle the main boards to enable the next series of upgrades to be be realised. Once these are completed, in the next couple of weeks, we will be ready to start serious training for the Ally Pally show in March. We are optimistic that the work we've done since our trip to Utracht will give us another sizable step forwards. Steve. Brilliant work. If you improve on Utrecht, you will be doing well. It might not be as easy to see at Ally Pally of course, but I will certainly be trying! Regards Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 8, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2012 Even the storage/transport boxes are of a level we all aspire to! Truly wonderful job in all respects Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devondynosoar118 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Have you got any construction pics or drawings of the boxes? They look like exactly what I need for my boards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I know John's seen this, but not sure if Les or any of the other guys have seen these screengrabs from an early 60s british transport film. earliest colour footage ive seen so should give some help to the weathering of the roof. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iankemp Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 looking good! That is one way of storing and moving the canopies! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) quite a bit of archive footage of Lime street on this video, from the 20s to the 60s, 1920s footage starts around 3 mins in, then skip to 15mins in for the 1950s footage... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nMpfVh5Itc Edited January 11, 2012 by michael delamar 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Steve Hewitt Posted January 11, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2012 Have you got any construction pics or drawings of the boxes? They look like exactly what I need for my boards. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. The short answer is "No". On the day the pictures were taken, John, Les and I had a chat about the design of the box needed for the North Roof. (The box for the South Roof had been made last year). A copy of the same design would have made the North box too large and heavy. We discussed the idea of saving space by having roof sections "overlapping" vertically, and reducing weight by making the shelves more skeletal. Geoff later advised John about the Double Extension drawer runners, which allow each roof section to be pulled out fully from the box. Instead of a full drawer base, John chose to use a rigid plastic angle section to support the Roof assemblies, saving a lot of weight. With these basic design ideas sorted out, John then acquired the necessary materials and built the Box to fit the roof sections, making the detail size and assembly decisions as he went along. Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devondynosoar118 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Thank you, the draw runners and plastic is a very clever idea which I will use on my next box design. What thickness ply was used for the outside? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Steve Hewitt Posted January 12, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2012 Thank you, the draw runners and plastic is a very clever idea which I will use on my next box design. What thickness ply was used for the outside? All the plywood was 9mm thick. Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devondynosoar118 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Ta, got some of that, will have a bash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 some earlier shots ive found in one of my old photobucket albums, Chris Hewitt's trackwork (not Chris Hewitt of the Wigan club but Liverpool, and no relation to Steve Hewitt who built the signals) think i took these on a mobile phone so sorry about quality. 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artizen Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Couple of afternoons worth there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY NORWOOD Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Hi That track work looks AMAZING, is it C & L Finescale I have done my Yard Shunter with that, it is a lot fidly than copper clad. RAY70B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 pointwork is ply and rivet construction which will have c&l chairs glued on, plain track is SMP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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