Kernow Adams O2

[2ManySpams]

One thing that really bugs me about the O2 is that the mainland versions all have cab doors. A look at photos shows that, unlike the IoW ones, cab doors weren't fitted. 

 

I've heard it said that the mainland O2s did have cab doors and it's just that they are left open in use. The photo extracts below show no sign of a door, open or closed and they also show a safety chain across the opening.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, I'm looking at putting this right on my O2 which will become 30200. 

 

Has anyone else undertaken this surgery? Did you do it insitu or remove the body? Does the cab come off or is it integral with the body?

 

Thoughts and experiences welcomed.

Edited October 11, 2021 by 2ManySpams
Photos added

[Ventnor]

1 hour ago, 2ManySpams said:

One thing that really bugs me about the O2 is that the mainland versions all have cab doors. A look at photos shows that, unlike the IoW ones, cab doors weren't fitted. 

 

I've heard it said that the mainland O2s did have cab doors and it's just that they are left open in use. The photo extracts below show no sign of a door, open or closed and they also show a safety chain across the opening.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, I'm looking at putting this right on my O2 which will become 30200. 

 

Has anyone else undertaken this surgery? Did you do it insitu or remove the body? Does the cab come off or is it integral with the body?

 

Thoughts and experiences welcomed.

Hello

 

The majority of mainland 02s didn’t have cab doors fitted as you say but pull-push fitted ones did. Those that later had the equipment removed seem to have retained their doors. An example is 30225 which was one of Kernows models.

 

It is sometimes difficult to see if doors are fitted or not as they could be open in photos. The tell tale evidence is as you’ve provided above with the safety chain fitted.

 

 I guess this doesn’t really help you as I’ve not tried to remove the doors but can confirm they are part of the body moulding together with the cab handrails. 
 

Kind regards

 

Andy.

[St Enodoc]

2 hours ago, 2ManySpams said:

Has anyone else undertaken this surgery?

No but when you do I'll follow your lead (mine's 30200 as well).

[Graham_Muz]

2 hours ago, 2ManySpams said:

One thing that really bugs me about the O2 is that the mainland versions all have cab doors. A look at photos shows that, unlike the IoW ones, cab doors weren't fitted. 

 

I've heard it said that the mainland O2s did have cab doors and it's just that they are left open in use. The photo extracts below show no sign of a door, open or closed and they also show a safety chain across the opening.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, I'm looking at putting this right on my O2 which will become 30200. 

 

Has anyone else undertaken this surgery? Did you do it insitu or remove the body? Does the cab come off or is it integral with the body?

 

Thoughts and experiences welcomed.

 

7 minutes ago, Ventnor said:

Hello

 

The majority of mainland 02s didn’t have cab doors fitted as you say but pull-push fitted ones did. Those that later had the equipment removed seem to have retained their doors. An example is 30225 which was one of Kernows models.

 

It is sometimes difficult to see if doors are fitted or not as they could be open in photos. The tell tale evidence is as you’ve provided above with the safety chain fitted.

 

 I guess this doesn’t really help you as I’ve not tried to remove the doors but can confirm they are part of the body moulding together with the cab handrails. 
 

Kind regards

 

Andy.

Hi Chris, 

 

As stated above only the pull push fitted Mainland O2s has cab doors, (as did those on the Isle of Wight)  it was economic and practical compromise tooling decision with the KMRC models to keep the doors on all versions. 
The doors can easily be removed with careful use of a Stanley knife, I recommend a new blade as per my example below. 

[2ManySpams]

1 hour ago, Graham_Muz said:

 

Hi Chris, 

 

As stated above only the pull push fitted Mainland O2s has cab doors, (as did those on the Isle of Wight)  it was economic and practical compromise tooling decision with the KMRC models to keep the doors on all versions. 
The doors can easily be removed with careful use of a Stanley knife, I recommend a new blade as per my example below. 

 

Thanks Graham, are the cab handrails original? I assume you just cut between the handrails and the door rather than fitting new handrails?

[Graham_Muz]

5 minutes ago, 2ManySpams said:

 

Thanks Graham, are the cab handrails original? I assume you just cut between the handrails and the door rather than fitting new handrails?

yes the handrails are at the moment the originals I might replace them eventually. 
I cut out the door first between the handrails and the cut through the gap between the handrails and body sides just using the blade of a knife. 

[Stubby47]

Presumably the doors were used to give greater protection (from falling out) to the lone fireman when the loco was being driven from the driving trailer ?

[2ManySpams]

2 hours ago, Stubby47 said:

Presumably the doors were used to give greater protection (from falling out) to the lone fireman when the loco was being driven from the driving trailer ?

 

H&S gone mad, what's wrong with a flimsy chain?

[NHY 581]

1 hour ago, 2ManySpams said:

 

H&S gone mad, what's wrong with a flimsy chain?

 

It could give way if leant on when reading the paper. Doors are better for that. 

[Nick C]

2 hours ago, NHY 581 said:

 

It could give way if leant on when reading the paper. Doors are better for that. 

The fireman doesn't have time to read the paper. That's what the driver is doing in the van the other end.

[Steamport Southport]

On 08/10/2021 at 09:32, DanInHisDen said:

Are there any djm O2s still availible?

 

Yes. Some of the ones off loaded elsewhere are still available.

 

https://www.hattons.co.uk/stocklist/3094212/1000588/1000640/0/dj_models_oo_gauge_1_76_scale_steam_locos/prodlist.aspx

 

 

Jason