Dapol 'Western'

[Phil Bullock]

Excellent Mike!

 

Cheers

 

Phil

 

[Enterprisingwestern]

Notice how I cunningly hid D1755 from view, damned cheek.

 

Mike.

[the-gog]

Notice how I cunningly hid D1755 from view, damned cheek.

 

Mike.

Best place for a duff - hidden from view.

[BR(W)]

Copped the Whizzo and cropped the duff? Great snaps (shame about the modern 'street furniture', though!).

 

Cheers,

 

BR(W).

[D1030western musketeer]

Phil

Alas no did not see her but thanks to those that did on youtube the sight and sound brings it all back.

 

Richard.

[mike tugsandsheds]

I know you didn't ask me, but,,,,,,,

 

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Mike.

Are Dapol going to bring a Model of this one out ??

Edited August 24, 2013 by mike tugsandsheds

[Enterprisingwestern]

I think they already have, current models have the telephone moulded in the cab, we just don't recognise it under the various colour combinations.

 

Mike.

[bubbles2]

Am I confused, or was the reason not explained in a very handy post a few pages ago? The PCB has no overload protection, so if you overload it, it blows. If that's the case, then you can try as many as you like, they will blow in the end. Only a redesign of the PCB will solve the issue - which is what seems to have happened for you.

 

A DCC chip, on the other hand will have overload protection (or should have). So will not demonstrate the same fault. Which is why I intend to get a DCC chip into my Dapol 22 before I use it in anger.

 

Chris

Thanks Chris, I must have missed that have you any idea which page it was on ? I am not sure how you would overload the PCB as the loco draws less than 0.3A fully loaded.

[Horsetan]

Am I confused, or was the reason not explained in a very handy post a few pages ago? The PCB has no overload protection, so if you overload it, it blows. If that's the case, then you can try as many as you like, they will blow in the end. Only a redesign of the PCB will solve the issue - which is what seems to have happened for you.....

And once again, I ask whether there is a separate overload protection circuit which could be designed so that all of us using PCB v1.0 could graft it in ourselves....?

Edited August 24, 2013 by Horsetan

[D1030western musketeer]

In earlier posts I have brought to the fore all the problems in running a Dapol western and stating there is a problem with the circuit board and seems to be more evident in running on dc. 

Will Dapol be looking into this before the next batch as with derailing issues.

 

Richard.

[steveb860]

In earlier posts I have brought to the fore all the problems in running a Dapol western and stating there is a problem with the circuit board and seems to be more evident in running on dc. 

Will Dapol be looking into this before the next batch as with derailing issues.

 

Richard.

For that you would need to ask Dapol,, as they no longer have a voice on here. 

[jukebox]

And once again, I ask whether there is a separate overload protection circuit which could be designed so that all of us using PCB v1.0 could graft it in ourselves....?

 

Would one of the DCC decoders that also runs comfortably on DC provide such protection, I wonder?

[47137]

Choosing a name and number for a blue Dapol Western with full yellow ends

Here is an updated spreadsheet to collate all the relevant information we have posted here since Geoff's posting at 16:44 on 7th August. The current data shows that if you want a 'prototypical' name/number for a blue Dapol Western (full yellow ends) you must remove the red route indicator dots and then choose one of D1001, 1003, 1008-11, 1013-16, 1021-1023 only (thirteen in all) ... or modify the model.

 

Class 52 Western details d.xls

 

This spreadsheet replaces all previous versions I have posted in this topic.

- Richard.

 

[Horsetan]

Would one of the DCC decoders that also runs comfortably on DC provide such protection, I wonder?

Which one?

[BR(S)]

Don't know if these have been posted before, but some good quality Western shots here, including one at King's Cross: http://neilgibson.smugmug.com/Guestphotographers-1/The-Dave-Stacey-Collection/Westerns/17908109_SNTHTR#!i=1368045772&k=trp6J6J

 

Worth looking at the rest of the collection as well.

[Sam Moss]

Finally managed to get a working D1056 the other day. This one runs but suffers from a noisy drive train and it bobs up and down and wobbles all over the shop. Instead of paying the return postage yet again I've just bitten the bullet and purchased replacement wheels for it from DCC supplies. Fingers crossed it should cure it and the new ones won't be eccentric to the axle too. Its getting a sound chip so I'd like it to be top notch!

[Torr Giffard LSWR 1951-71]

Sam,

 

It is fundamentally wrong for you to be out of pocket when correcting faulty goods. Why were you unable to exchange the faulty wheelsets for true ones without charge?

 

Apologies if your reasons are buried in this long thread.

 

If DCC supplies can't give you satisfaction then you should be kicking Dapol's backside.

 

Dave  

[Sam Moss]

In the end after complaining to the ebay shop that even this one didn't run properly, they offered a partial refund which has paid for the wheelsets and a couple of other bits.

[the-gog]

Sam,

 

It is fundamentally wrong for you to be out of pocket when correcting faulty goods. Why were you unable to exchange the faulty wheelsets for true ones without charge?

 

Apologies if your reasons are buried in this long thread.

 

If DCC supplies can't give you satisfaction then you should be kicking Dapol's backside.

 

Dave  

 

Somebody in this thread returned a faulty Dapol Western to DCC Supplies, only for it to be returned with the fault not repaired sufficiently well, so he had to return it a second time (at his own cost, natch) to be repaired. Second time round, it had been repaired.

[mike tugsandsheds]

_{Assuming I could find one anywhere}

 

_{Could the 00 D1029 Western Lgionnaire be modified with NRN Pods and up to date WArning Flashes and Name and Number plates to represent Westermn Champion ??}

[Etched Pixels]

Somebody in this thread returned a faulty Dapol Western to DCC Supplies, only for it to be returned with the fault not repaired sufficiently well, so he had to return it a second time (at his own cost, natch) to be repaired. Second time round, it had been repaired.

 

If he was charged the second return and it was not his fault but a failed repair then that somebody should send DCC supplies the bill.

[Andy1963]

My Dapol western had 2 faults.  Firstly, one of the 4 body fixing screws was not fitted correctly, and had missed the brass insert in the body and gone down the side of it. I found this when I wanted to install a decoder.  I could have sent it to DCC, but was quicker and easier to drill the screw out myself (it was in too tight to undo), and although not perfect, I think 3 body fixing screws will be adequate.  The second fault is with the interior cab lights. The lights in one end don't work. All directional head and tail lamps work fine, but once I fitted the decoder, the cab lights will only operate one end.  I assume it's a loco fault and not a decoder fault, but again, I'm not worried enough about it to pack it up and send it to DCC.  It's a beautiful model, but the manufacturing or assembly quality isn't as it should be.

[Dye]

Might be of interest - some information about your rights and who pays for return postage.
 
http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/distance-selling-regulations/


Dye

[DJM Dave]

My Dapol western had 2 faults.  Firstly, one of the 4 body fixing screws was not fitted correctly, and had missed the brass insert in the body and gone down the side of it. I found this when I wanted to install a decoder.  I could have sent it to DCC, but was quicker and easier to drill the screw out myself (it was in too tight to undo), and although not perfect, I think 3 body fixing screws will be adequate.  The second fault is with the interior cab lights. The lights in one end don't work. All directional head and tail lamps work fine, but once I fitted the decoder, the cab lights will only operate one end.  I assume it's a loco fault and not a decoder fault, but again, I'm not worried enough about it to pack it up and send it to DCC.  It's a beautiful model, but the manufacturing or assembly quality isn't as it should be.

You realise that the other cab lights work independently using F2 don't you?

They are wired to true NMRA spec and as such you can have either cab or both lit dependant on your whim and choice of direction as it is in dependant of direction too.

 

HTH

 

NDD

[brushman47544]

You realise that the other cab lights work independently using F2 don't you?

They are wired to true NMRA spec and as such you can have either cab or both lit dependant on your whim and choice of direction as it is in dependant of direction too.

 

HTH

 

NDD

 

And you need a 4 function decoder such as the Bachmann 36-557 I have fitted to mine. Bachmann's older 36-554 is 3 function for example and I had to replace it in my Class 22 before all the light functions worked.