gonzo76 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 hi rka this takes me back a few years when all we had Hornby or lima.i allways thought the Hornby body was a far better shape,just let down by the elderly detailing.heres some shots of my 2 Hornby 37s complete with Dave Alexander sideframes,adds a bit of wieght.i also scratch built the fuel tanks from plasticard.If youve not seen them the late Monty Wells articles in the railway modeller back in the 1980s.they certainly kickstarted my modelling as they cover a lot of basic modelling techniques and they are all diesel models,which back then was a bit rare.heres both of em together,ithink the split box one looks far better.this is a good side on view.i had just finished both of these when A1 models brought out a set of etched bodyside grills,but i dont think they were on sale for long.heres a recreation of D5901s trip back from being rebuilt at the vulcan factory to Doncaster works by D6976. then if your really felling brave you could try a baby deltc chopped down from a Hornby 37.have fun and at the end of the day you can say i made that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted March 24, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 24, 2011 hi rka this takes me back a few years when all we had Hornby or lima.i allways thought the Hornby body was a far better shape,just let down by the elderly detailing.heres some shots of my 2 Hornby 37s complete with Dave Alexander sideframes,adds a bit of wieght.i also scratch built the fuel tanks from plasticard.If youve not seen them the late Monty Wells articles in the railway modeller back in the 1980s.they certainly kickstarted my modelling as they cover a lot of basic modelling techniques and they are all diesel models,which back then was a bit rare.heres both of em together,ithink the split box one looks far better.this is a good side on view.i had just finished both of these when A1 models brought out a set of etched bodyside grills,but i dont think they were on sale for long.heres a recreation of D5901s trip back from being rebuilt at the vulcan factory to Doncaster works by D6976. then if your really felling brave you could try a baby deltc chopped down from a Hornby 37.have fun and at the end of the day you can say i made that! wow, they look amazing hope mine look half as good as them, I have the monty wells articles and I originally bought the 37 to convert to a baby deltic, but I found a couple of the a1 kits for them, although I made a pigs ear of the one I tried doing and ended up putting it in the bin, except the bogie frames, fuel tanks and buffers which I've used on the 37. Still have a couple of the baby deltic kits to do but I like the look of your baby deltic so might get round to doing one after a pair of class 22 conversions, a falcon conversion, a class 25/3 conversion, dp2 conversion, a pair of q kits lms twins and a couple more!!! I keep on buying old kits and conversions and now have probably a years worth of things to do, but keeps me of the streets, although my girlfriend does keep wondering what on earth i'm doing at times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Those 37s capture the look of the prototype as I remember them when they first appeared, passing my primary school classroom in 1965. I redid one myself using the bogies and motor from the Hornby Class 50 (available from East Kent Models- usual disclaimer), but it could do with larger wheels. It's ballasted with quite a lot of lead, and as my French colleagues would say ' It would pull the train, and the station as well' Fitting the Vi-Trains underframe is another possibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mudmagnet Posted March 24, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 24, 2011 I thought that the Monty Wells articles were very good and have kept the ones that I collected on the basis that they may be useful one day! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted March 25, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 25, 2011 are you sure that's not a slide taken in the 60s? fantastic loco i think the thing is, for all its faults the 37 has the correct 'face', particularly the windscreens (compared to, say a lima 40) well done to everyone for some great modelling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 All thiese photos and projects remind me of when lots of members of the old group DEmod (who remembers that?!) were attemtping all sorts of methods to capture the look of a tractor - just around the time of the original Bachmann 37/4. Clive Mortimor was one of the biggest supporters of the Hornby model which, in its main dimensions, was better than anything available at the time. Hi 5Bel, glad you like it mate and that you've dug your out, think james needs to now aswell!!! Give me time It's looking really good now - the first too pictures especially (due to the angles from which they're taken) really capture the bulk of a 37 The Hornby body really has got the right shape, but many people can't look beyond the slightly dated tooling and see it. I suspect some people think it's rubbish because it doesn't have stupidly bright LED headlamps too! The underframe mods make a big difference too - glad the fuel tanks came in handy This really does show how well the Hornby body can look! I think you've got the colouring of livery and weathering absolutely spot on! You're also much braver than many people who wouldn't dare use such bold weathering shades! But I do like that! I redid one myself using the bogies and motor from the Hornby Class 50 (available from East Kent Models- usual disclaimer), but it could do with larger wheels. It's ballasted with quite a lot of lead, and as my French colleagues would say ' It would pull the train, and the station as well' I'm afraid a comment like that is useless without photos! Fitting the Vi-Trains underframe is another possibility. With the cheap Vi chassis available from people like Hattons it probably represents the best value for money option now I think. Unless you're modelling a loco with cast bogies in which case the Hornby bogies are spot on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl1967 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 hi this 37 is looking good m8 i have not long done a old Hornby 37 with a lot of shawplan parts, its not finnished yet i also gave it LED lighting. here are some pictures. ps, i am thinking of doing the bogies after seeing how yours look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0rris Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Blimey... what a turnaround and it definitely looks the part (I'd say it actually looks more like a 37 than my Vitrains model). m0rris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucky Duck Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 I think you've got the colouring of livery and weathering absolutely spot on! You're also much braver than many people who wouldn't dare use such bold weathering shades! But I do like that! I agree James, there just isn't enough filth on RMweb, steam or diesel! Very convincing, as usual gonzo… now I want one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted March 26, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2011 there is some amazing models now been shown in this thread, as I said before I just hope mine is worthy when it's finished not done too much last few days due to commuting to milton keynes and back every day and got to do it this weekend aswell but so long as traffic is ok on way home i'll do some more tonight, as I find the m1 a pretty inspiration sapping s***hole in heavy traffic, even more so on the section between lutterworth and leicester where the trackbed of the great central is right at the side of you, and you wish that the line was still there just to take some of the traffic, what a short sighted decision shutting and dismatling the infrastructure of that line was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 I may give one a try myself looks a good project to keep my hands busy for a while, never really liked the Hornby 37 but may give it a go and see what I can produce NL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl1967 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 hi just thought i,d share some class 37 bogie pictures with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account 2 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 How is the detailing coming along? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted March 19, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2013 It's stuck in a box doing nothing at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyw1970 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 what is the cheapest and easiest way of replacing the class 47 bogiies for correct class 37 ones please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl1967 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 fit a lima chassis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 what is the cheapest way of replacing the class 47 bogiies for correct class 37 ones please Dave Alexander bogie side frames. what is the easiest way of replacing the class 47 bogiies for correct class 37 ones please Vi Trains chassis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted January 2, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 2, 2014 well after what seems like an age of just logging on to browse the site I thought I'd better start trying to model again!! new years resolutions etc. My Hornby class 37 never got any further on, and I just accumulated more "projects" so I have decided to restart my Silver Fox Falcon. This is powered by two Lima class 31 bogies as I have these instock and managed to get a Heljan Falcon tank assembly, so this has been assembled first. When I've had a good look at the body the first thing what I noticed was the bodyside grills look nothing like the prototype, which I accept must have been a limititation of what detail could be moulded, and these are what put me off finishing the model all together. The other things I noticed where the cab windows are the wrong shape(lima class 47 I presume) and the area under the buffers is to shallow. A chance search on the site for falcon grills lead me to macgeordie who had drawn up the bodyside grills, when contacted luckily he agreed to get these etched for me along with the cab window frames and a few other parts, so armed with these I've made a start on this again. here is the etch here is the body in primer(as it was left) showing the moulded grills and opened out windows here is the grill etches after soldering together and shown against the original grills for comparison apologies for the poor quality phots these have been taken with my camera phone. next job before attaching the grills is alter the bufferbeam area to make it deeper will post more photos when I've done it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted January 3, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2014 here is some pictures from one end of the loco showing modification to the area below the bufferbeam to make the valance deeper showing layers before basic shaping and after basic shaping I think this does quite alot for the look of the front of the model along with the opened out cab windows. I have also flattened off the lip above the headcode panel as this was curved, whereas on the prototype it's flat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Hi RKA, Nice to see the Silver Fox stuff getting an airing. The first thing I did here on RMWEB on my Little Didcot thread was thier No. 18000 and I really enjoyed doing it. They are great kits and so much nicer than just opening a box I think! I look forward to seeing the end product. I may not be one for the diesels personally but you are producing some lovely work. The thread title does not do you justice... All the best, Castle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted January 4, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2014 Thank you for your comments,I watched your 18000 build and was very impressed with it, infact it's on my list to obtain. Not done too much, got the other valance on, I have done a little more to shape them, mainly on the sides of the valance, where on the prototype they angle in towards the bogies, I need to get some primer on them to see how they look. While checking through my parts box,I found some extreme etchings class 47 cab side window etches which on offering up look like an excellent fit so in due course they will be added. Progress will not be quick on this as I am starting a welding course but will post pictures as and when I have time to model. This is how it looks now which I think looks much more like the real thing already again sorry for poor quality need to find my proper camera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Moss Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 hi this 37 is looking good m8 i have not long done a old Hornby 37 with a lot of shawplan parts, its not finnished yet i also gave it LED lighting. here are some pictures. ps, i am thinking of doing the bogies after seeing how yours look. Nice job but you seem to have fitted refurbished grills on the nose ends which are wrong original split and centre box tractors. Refurbished centre boxes ones received them, however all split box ones that did had the headcode boxes cut off and plated over with marker lights in their place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted January 6, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2014 Bit more done tonight mainly adding window etches and the large bodyside grill on one side. The pictures highlight some tidying up to do on the cab fronts but I think it's coming along ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted February 17, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2014 Progress has halted on the falcon due to me needing to figure out hiw to form the surround which the higher grills sit between, so along side falcon I am doing silver fox models kestrel. I bought this from ebay and it's bufferbeams were damaged so I bought the Heljan parts for it and painted it in br blue , but wasn't happy with it so I've decied to redo it. one of the things that I wasn't happy with was the body side grill so I had a think and came up with using evergreen clapboard siding to represent the louvres and fixed sone mainly trains rivet strip to form the surround. I have had to make it slightly bigger but I think it looks a lot better than the moulded effort Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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