RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) Good grief, this is like catch up TV.... Needless to say I had to go back to page 14. Waiting on back surgery that has now been and gone. I went from hardly walking 50 yards to playing golf three or four times a week. I have nothing but gratitude for our NHS. It's strange reading someone's diary. Even stranger when it's your own... Stand by for a large US loco running round the dining room table.... https://youtu.be/9FNsjAFGRnw I'm not responsible for the awful wallpaper and the heated food cabinet. Thankfully the wallpaper has gone (with the wall) as have the dining table and chairs and the Hostess trolley went to the Charity shop. A snapshot of surburban life in the 2010's....... A strange exhaust beat, which I attribute to there being 3 engines. Did they all exhaust through the chimney? I know nothing about kettles from over the pond. Edited March 5, 2018 by Siberian Snooper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) Don't quote me as I don't know the answer, but from the model there is one chimney at the front and one at the rear on the tender.... Edited March 5, 2018 by gordon s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2018 Don't quote me as I don't know the answer, but from the model there is one chimney at the front and one at the rear on the tender.... Screen Shot 2018-03-05 at 18.47.06.png Very interesting, I had never heard of such a beast until now. I had always been under the impression that the 'big boys' were the top dog engines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denbridge Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) Don't quote me as I don't know the answer, but from the model there is one chimney at the front and one at the rear on the tender.... Screen Shot 2018-03-05 at 18.47.06.png I had the joy of driving a 1 1/2"/foot Triplex on one of my US trips A real beast :)Live steam is another hobby of mine. Edited March 5, 2018 by Denbridge 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightbe Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Very interesting, I had never heard of such a beast until now. I had always been under the impression that the 'big boys' were the top dog engines. They were basically; the triplexes were massive failures. Three sets of paired cylinders consume all the oomph in no time at all and the/coal water consumption was unsustainable. Top speeds were necessarily low by any standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) Whilst looking around for Triplex info I came across this. I'd not heard of Train Mountain, but Jeez, that's some garden layout.... http://trainmtn.org/tmrr/pages/tp_maps_2006.shtml The website is crammed with stuff, so that's another few hours out of the window. http://www.trainmountain.org Our friends in the US don't do anything by half..... http://trainmtn.org/tmrr/pages/tp_central_Detail.shtml The 2016 plan shows 36 miles of track... http://trainmtn.org/tmrr/Resources/maps/2016_3_10_Map_2.0.pdf Edited March 6, 2018 by gordon s 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted March 6, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2018 The yanks don't do anything by halves, do they! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philou Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) @ gordon s Unfortunately I got way-laid yesterday evening so I'm not yet off page 14. I just wanted to say that I'm pleased that you have made a full recovery - especially as you're able to play golf! I shall read on with great interest tonight. Regards, Philip Edit: I think Jamespetts ought to be persuaded to read through too ............... Edited March 6, 2018 by Philou Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold martin_wynne Posted March 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2018 Alas Gordon's visits to the local tip with various past part incarnations of Eastwood Town are the stuff of legend on RMweb How else is he going to get a Christmas card every year from the local timber merchant? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted March 6, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2018 How else is he going to get a Christmas card every year from the local timber merchant? Christmas Card? I'd be wanting a Hamper..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philou Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) Aaaaaaarrrrrghhhhh! Noooooooooooooo !!! Page 21 and Gordon is starting again ................ will I be able to read through to the end or shall I take The Stationmaster's advice and read from page 147 backwards? Edited March 6, 2018 by Philou Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted March 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) You simply have to exercise the willing suspension of disbelief. If not downright incredulity. Edited March 6, 2018 by Regularity 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 ...and it gets worse... Still, I'm soldering on regardless.... 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philou Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Sold(i)ering on more like it! Ta-boom-tish! Trackwork looks so good too. BTW, did you keep your all trackwork or did some go to the tip? If it did go, it does seem a pity after all the hard work (and no doubt a singed finger or two). I shall now read on ......................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) Plain trackwork basically went in the bin, but I saved all the turnouts. Eventually I had something like 200 and didn't know what to do with them as each was custom designed for a specific location. Selling a straight turnout with a 3' radius is one thing, but I thought no one would be interested in a curved turnout with 8' and 5' radius. Surprisingly they were and they were all sold bar a few stragglers that went in the bin. You'll probably come to that bit in a month or two... Quite a few went off to RMwebbers, so the money paid for more rail and copper strip and off we went again.... Edit: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/116904-selling-hand-built-00-pointwork-any-ideas/ Edited March 6, 2018 by gordon s 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I think Gordon was single handedly responsible for shortages in both copperclad strip and nicklesilver , rumor has it that the C&L van is made by Rolls Royce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philou Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) Page 30 and all is well .......................... so far ..................... Edit: I'm glad that some of your hard-earned trackwork was able to be recycled. If it's not indiscreet - why bin the plain trackwork? Edited March 6, 2018 by Philou Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 I have lifted pointwork on boards that were going to be scrapped by pouring loads of boiling water over them. That softens the ballast and breaks down the PVA adhesive, but the board is pretty well scrap then. Copperclad pointwork is pretty well bullet proof, which is one of the reasons I'm happy to stay with it, rather than go into chaired track. Once scrubbed up and resprayed with track colour, it's 100%. The plain track from SMP is fine to use, but a little fragile. If it hasn't been ballasted, you can lift a sleeper and slide a wallpaper scraper under and it's quite easy to break the PVA/plastic sleep bond. Once it's ballasted, it's pretty impossible to lift without the rail coming away from the chairs. A whole load of effort with little chance of salvaging anything. My personal feelings are I wouldn't want to use it again anyway. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted March 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2018 I have had the same experience as Gordon with regards plain ballasted track, in my case C&L flexi. Impossible to salvage the bases but if the rails are removed first they can be reused as I am doing in new point-work. I'm also reusing chairs and timbers from lifted point-work, although I used vinyl glue not PVA. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_H Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) How does the new peco BH track compare with C&L? ........ probably the wrong forum to ask the question but since track is being discussed;) Edited March 7, 2018 by Ian_H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 Silly thing is it never occurred to me until yesterday to reuse the rail.... I've been waiting for some C & L rail for a while now and all the time I had loads of old lengths of SMP where I had used pins to lay the track. For some reason I kept it thinking it could be used in areas out of sight or non critical, but never used it. I know there's probably a fraction of a mm or so difference here and there between the rail, but it would have been fine. After all it's what's on the plain track anyway. Doh! I can't answer your question Ian as I use SMP. Maybe Jonathan can help. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Silly thing is it never occurred to me until yesterday to reuse the rail.... I've been waiting for some C & L rail for a while now and all the time I had loads of old lengths of SMP where I had used pins to lay the track. For some reason I kept it thinking it could be used in areas out of sight or non critical, but never used it. I know there's probably a fraction of a mm or so difference here and there between the rail, but it would have been fine. After all it's what's on the plain track anyway. Doh! I can't answer your question Ian as I use SMP. Maybe Jonathan can help. One thing to be careful about is that when taking the track up not to curve the rail in the vertical, May not be an issue with either short lengths or those well stuck down on soldered sections Perhaps by removing the rail first by pulling it through the chairs may be the best option to stop any curving Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWsTrains Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Silly thing is it never occurred to me until yesterday to reuse the rail.... I've been waiting for some C & L rail for a while now and all the time I had loads of old lengths of SMP where I had used pins to lay the track. For some reason I kept it thinking it could be used in areas out of sight or non critical, but never used it. I know there's probably a fraction of a mm or so difference here and there between the rail, but it would have been fine. After all it's what's on the plain track anyway. Doh! I can't answer your question Ian as I use SMP. Maybe Jonathan can help. On a new topic I raised here today, I got this helpful tip for removing PVA glued ballasted track. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/131991-replacing-a-dead-point/?p=3076157 It makes more sense than the boiling water route as time and humidity will do the job. Come to think of it how does ballasted PVA'd track ever stay put in your damp country For larger areas old toweling or sheets would be more effective than using paper towel. I'd imagine that once the PVA softens even the most fragile track bed should lift up. Of course, baseboards of MDF (no no) or Chip will not survive either treatment. Another reason to back the use of ply. Sure seems a better idea than beating the living daylights out of recycled flex as "Everard Junction" did on his Channel. Fortunately a 2nd and much better tip eventually spared me lifting any track WRT addressing my broken point problem, Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted March 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2018 Not seen Peco bullhead flexi so I cannot compare, but C&L is more expensive. However, it does come in either thick or thin sleepers. Thin sleepers matches hand-built chaired turnouts and takes less material to ballast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted March 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2018 On a new topic I raised here today, I got this helpful tip for removing PVA glued ballasted track. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/131991-replacing-a-dead-point/?p=3076157 I use a similar technique for wiping off bird sh1t from my car's paintwork. Only needs 5 minutes or so, unless it's dried on like concrete - in which case another 5 minutes or so usually does the trick. Just thought I'd mention it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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