Waverley passenger train formations and diagrams

[Shed Driver]

Hi

 

I don't know if this has been asked before but I can't find any info on this site.

 

What was the formation of the last train?  Obviously 60 Lytham St Annes at the front with I, believe from photos, a single BG at the rear.   What was in between and was it lengthened for the last run?

 

Norman

[keefer]

Derbysulzers says "The last scheduled train, the 1M82 21.55 Edinburgh - St. Pancras, with eight coaches and two sleepers was handled by Class 45 No.60."

I don't know what the usual formation was though.

EDIT: found the train in the 1968-9 PTM book

(Courtesy Robert Carroll's Coaching Stock io.group

https://brcoachingstock.groups.io/g/main )

So it would seem to have had 3 extra coaches, possibly just 3 x SK?

Edited August 23, 2020 by keefer

[Shed Driver]

Thanks,  Most interesting.  I think i'll have to join Robert Carroll's coaching stock group

 

Norman Blackburn

[37175]

The BG on that last train was E80834, if you were after a number at all?

[SebBarrow]

Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere already.  In the late 50s / early 60s the Waverley had a summer-Saturday relief working between Edinburgh and Leeds or Sheffield (depending on the year), departing Edinburgh about 15 minutes ahead of the main train.  It was important enough to advertise in the public timetable.

 

In the various years I have checked (1955, 1961, 1962, 1963) there does not appear to be a corresponding northbound relief train.  Is it known if this was in fact the case (i.e. an unbalanced working) or was the northbound train simply unadvertised, or something else that I’ve missed?  It seems a bit odd that the Waverley would require relief in one direction only.

 

(I do notice in 1962 the northbound sleeper has a booked relief train, was this perhaps it?)