RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted December 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2018 Heckmondwike Junction. by John Whiteley, on Flickr 92008 at Wellingborough Mill Road by Tony, on Flickr Nest Fields by Tony, on Flickr 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 16t mineral meat in a rat sandwich at Swindon Works scrap line 1-5-81 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted December 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 28, 2018 foggy freight for Colwick yard by Jonathan Martin, on Flickr D5661 on snowy morning freight by Jonathan Martin, on Flickr 5157 remains, Grangemouth, Apr 73 by Jonathan Martin, on Flickr 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 31249 Armley (Leeds) by Paul Corrie, on Flickr "stop em all" junction 1987 by Paul Corrie, on Flickr 08592 wernos wahery top sorting sidings by Paul Corrie, on Flickr 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) I don't think this has been posted Nicely shows the inside of the pressed end door - and generally the condition of the inside of a rivetted 16 tonner. https://flic.kr/p/2dRatzu Paul Edited January 5, 2019 by hmrspaul 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steaming_chris Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I don't think this has been posted https://www.flickr.com/photos/taffytank/46501330842/ Nicely shows the inside of the pressed end door - and generally the condition of the inside of a rivetted 16 tonner. Paul Unfortunately Paul the link isn't working Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted January 5, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2019 Unfortunately Paul the link isn't working Regards, Click on the lower link - that worked for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted January 5, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) I don't think this has been posted Nicely shows the inside of the pressed end door - and generally the condition of the inside of a rivetted 16 tonner. https://flic.kr/p/2dRatzu Paul Page Not Found Oops! Looks like you followed a bad link. If you think this is a problem with Flickr, please tell us. Here's a link to the home page. Bad link, Paul, could you have another go? If it is something that you have highlighted it has GOT to be worth looking at. Regards Ian edit:too slow! Edited January 5, 2019 by Ian Smeeton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) It works now. Click on the lower link. I'll also try with these, very interesting train of coil loaded in Mineral wagons - many of them vacuum braked. One considerable load even for a 2-8-2T. They will have had a wooden cradle inside. I wonder if the Coil Js replaced some of them - being ex Iron ore tipplers they had a much higher payload. I assume coils were usually 15 - 20 tons a piece. https://flic.kr/p/2dTRijr https://flic.kr/p/2dUvrQD Paul There are many fascinating photographs in this collection for anyone interested in the transition period. Edited January 5, 2019 by hmrspaul 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Paul, Coils were of various weights, depending on the final customer; one of the draughtsmen in the drawing office where my father worked spent his days drawing up patterns for ingot moulds. These would be a specific size, depending upon the yield required for a particular end-user. This could be anywhere between 5t and 65t. The larger ones would usually be for Pressed Steel Fisher, who would form entire car body shells out of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted January 5, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2019 I knew that they would be absolute crackers, Paul. Many thanks for the links. Regards Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 6, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) Paul, Coils were of various weights, depending on the final customer; one of the draughtsmen in the drawing office where my father worked spent his days drawing up patterns for ingot moulds. These would be a specific size, depending upon the yield required for a particular end-user. This could be anywhere between 5t and 65t. The larger ones would usually be for Pressed Steel Fisher, who would form entire car body shells out of them. Agreed - coil weights, and sizes varied considerably and there were also differences in size between cold reduced coil as well as hot rolled. For example the different motor car manufacturers tended to have different specifications for the steel they took as coil, e,g. c.1972/3 Vauxhall specified a reduction in the thickness of the steel they were using for vehicle manufacture although it took what might best be described as 'some experimentation' to get it right and avoid it being wrecked by the press tools and returned to Llanwern as scrap. Edited January 6, 2019 by The Stationmaster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 6, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2019 Paul, Coils were of various weights, depending on the final customer; one of the draughtsmen in the drawing office where my father worked spent his days drawing up patterns for ingot moulds. These would be a specific size, depending upon the yield required for a particular end-user. This could be anywhere between 5t and 65t. The larger ones would usually be for Pressed Steel Fisher, who would form entire car body shells out of them. Hi Brian Wot 65ton car ??????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Hi Brian Wot 65ton car ??????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2019 Three Spires Junction (frame 5) by David Blower, on Flickr 2013-01-12_91 by Delmi Battersby, on Flickr 5533 by Dave Jolly, on Flickr 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Three Spires Junction (frame 5) by David Blower, on Flickr Interesting sheeted-up top-door on that last wagon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Snibston by Kevin Lane, on Flickr 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Snibston by Kevin Lane, on Flickr I'm now going to show sad I am by noting that the tie-bar between the axle-guards on the nearer wagon is fitted the opposite way round to the majority.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I'm sure others will be along later to point out the finer points on why that batch of wagons had angle as opposed to flat bar. I for one shall remain schtum as it will only prove I am far sadder than thee. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I'm sure others will be along later to point out the finer points on why that batch of wagons had angle as opposed to flat bar. I for one shall remain schtum as it will only prove I am far sadder than thee. Were these built unfitted and then later fitted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Were these built unfitted and then later fitted? They were; the wagons built as fitted are like the one next to the loco. Quite a few examples of this type never received vacuum cylinders, following a change in policy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 I'm now going to show sad I am by noting that the tie-bar between the axle-guards on the nearer wagon is fitted the opposite way round to the majority.. How many ways can there be to fit the tie bar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjnewitt Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 How many ways can there be to fit the tie bar? Only one. As Porcy suggested tie bars on wagons are usually formed from flat bar (though could be round between the axleguards (W-Irons)). On wagons built with vacuum brakes they were bent at the ends to wrap around the outside of the axleguards. On wagons originally built unfitted they were usually welded between the individual keeps or stirups. These keeps again wrapped around the edges of the axleguards. In the cast majority of cases they were not L shaped. The only wagons (that I know of) that had L section tie bars were the 16T minerals retrofotted in the mid-1960s, such as the one in the above photo. Justin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 How many ways can there be to fit the tie bar? Have some angle iron. Courtesy Jamerail. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/36891-16t-minerals/?view=findpost&p=2679022 From earlier in the thread. https://flic.kr/p/kXUUAv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2019 Bristol Barrow Road's 9F No. 92000 hauls a Southbound freight up St Andrews bank past Brickyard Lane Crossing. by Anthony Haynes, on Flickr Blisworth SMJ by John Evans, on Flickr 40183 at Mirfield by Barry Skilbeck, on Flickr 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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