RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, 26power said: Interested me enough to try and find a map showing the railways, so found this one (use the slider to compare and contrast with either aerial photography, current OS mapping etc.): https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16.381115879214708&lat=51.65259&lon=-3.65347&layers=193&b=8 Apologies for adding to thread drift. The picture was taken from Brytwn Road as it crossed the railway? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted June 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2020 That's right, Mike, a few yards down the valley from the tunnel entrance which the road crosses. I've seen a few photos taken from this spot or very close to it; it's a natural viewpoint. The village of Croeserw is at the top of the mountain behind the photographer. 26power's map link is interesting in that the survey is dated 1965, about the last possible time that all the railways were extant. Passenger services had ceased by then on the R & SB, and only workmen's trains served Glyncorrwg and the North Rhondda pit at the head of that valley. Abergwynfi was closed to passengers but still open for freight and to serve the Avon pit. The Blaenrhondda Tunnel, the longest entirely in Wales, was only being used at this time by one passenger service, though there was still mineral traffic, the passenger service being the single car unit, Class 121, service from Bridgend to Treherbert via Maesteg. The tunnel had been built as cheaply as possible and, although a seam of coal was discovered while it was being dug and the coal sold to defray costs, the R & SB did not purchase the mining rights above and below the tunnel. It was therefore undermined from all sides and plagued by subsidence and other distortion; strengthening with steel hoops was carried out over a period between 1938 and 1958 to stabilise it. A minor earthquake on a fault running through it took it out of loading gauge in 1967, and it never re-opened, being closed pending repairs, then closed pending a Board of Trade safety inspection, and the service ended altogether in 1970. Between the tunnel's first closure and the final closing of the service, the 121 terminated at Cwmmer Afan and a connecting bus ran over the Bwlch Road to Treorchy. I travelled on this in 1969. There is currently a Rhondda Tunnel Society campaigning to re-open the tunnel for pedestrian and cycle use, which may achieve this in time. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 13 hours ago, The Johnster said: 26power's map link is interesting in that the survey is dated 1965, about the last possible time that all the railways were extant. Passenger services had ceased by then on the R & SB, and only workmen's trains served Glyncorrwg and the North Rhondda pit at the head of that valley. Abergwynfi was closed to passengers but still open for freight and to serve the Avon pit. I’m sure you were aware, but other mapping is also available. This is the 25inch from between 1892 and 1914, which shows the track layout in greater detail, including a connection immediately after the viaduct to a colliery off to the left of the picture: https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.755836797213863&lat=51.65170&lon=-3.65370&layers=168&b=8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted June 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2020 2 hours ago, 26power said: I’m sure you were aware, but other mapping is also available. This is the 25inch from between 1892 and 1914, which shows the track layout in greater detail, including a connection immediately after the viaduct to a colliery off to the left of the picture: https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.755836797213863&lat=51.65170&lon=-3.65370&layers=168&b=8 This is gold dust, 26; the first time I've seen the full track layout of Avon Colliery. Perhaps the lottery layout should be Blaengwnfi/Abergwynfi, separate railways each with a colliery to serve. The Tondu locos I've got now plus some of Duffryn Yard's and Treherbert's studs, which included Taff Vale As and Rhymney Rs in the 50s... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM42 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 On 30/05/2020 at 21:58, Porcy Mane said: Hemelite by Kevin Lane, on Flickr P I've always wondered how many times the buffers or vacuum pipe followed the coal during this operation. Andy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlebox Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 On 12/06/2020 at 15:13, SM42 said: I've always wondered how many times the buffers or vacuum pipe followed the coal during this operation. Andy The vacuum pipe/hose connection had its own protective cowling which you can see on this wagon being restored...so either there had been a problem with the hoses being ripped off or the draughtsman/design team thought ahead and built in some protection... 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Axlebox said: The vacuum pipe/hose connection had its own protective cowling which you can see on this wagon being restored ... and here's one of his brethren, with unmodified piping to the loaded vac cyl. 146. 432 65842 Percy Main 13-12-63 (WP Hodgson) 449 by George Stephenson, on Flickr Edited June 14, 2020 by Porcy Mane Add missing letters. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 08373 former Millfield yard , Sunderland. Early 1980's by locoman1966, on Flickr 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted June 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 16, 2020 DERWENTHAUGH INTERLUDE # 2 by Bill Watson, on Flickr DOUBLE-HEADER@BIRKETT TUNNEL by Bill Watson, on Flickr LOOK OUT - IT'S COMING UP BEHIND by Bill Watson, on Flickr EVENING @GREENHOLME # 2 by Bill Watson, on Flickr 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Very continental looking van at Derwenthaugh. What would the maximum speed of that train be with the Jocko included? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 minute ago, jwealleans said: Very continental looking van at Derwenthaugh. What would the maximum speed of that train be with the Jocko included? Hi JW, The 08 has had its rods removed and are likely laid on the cab floor along with having the the traction motor lay shafts wound out of engagement preventing the motors from turning while being towed. In that condition an 08 is able to travel at normal goods train speeds, this was the normal way to move 08's before the railway realised that goods traffic is much cheaper to send by road. Gibbo. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 28 minutes ago, jwealleans said: Very continental looking van at Derwenthaugh. Transfesa van, which had been collected from the 'Green Market' at Team Valley Industrial Estate. This was active into the mid-1980s; you could just see it from the ECML after the junctions for Low Fell. This freight would have started at Tyne Yard, calling at Green Market, Low Fell engineer's yard, Thompson's scrap yard at Dunston, Derwenthaugh/ Swawell to pick up/set down 'cripples', and finally, Blaydon Yard. In the early part of the 1980s, this had a coal yard, the empties from which were reloaded with scrap, and a siding where wagons were cleaned. I saw a rake of 'Clyde Cement' wagons there once. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 And this is the long-term effect of patching over the outside without cutting out the panel: 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlebox Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 On 15/06/2020 at 23:27, Porcy Mane said: 08373 former Millfield yard , Sunderland. Early 1980's by locoman1966, on Flickr Uncle P, nice shot of a 16t mineral with a white square painted on it...anyone seen a picture of a 16t mineral with a white square and a number painted in the box? 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM42 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 On 14/06/2020 at 08:04, Axlebox said: The vacuum pipe/hose connection had its own protective cowling which you can see on this wagon being restored...so either there had been a problem with the hoses being ripped off or the draughtsman/design team thought ahead and built in some protection... Cant say I've ever noticed that before, thanks, but I was thinking more of the loose end of the vac pipe being clattered by a couple of ton of coal rushing past. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Axlebox said: anyone seen a picture of a 16t mineral with a white square and a number painted in the box? "Sniggers" 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 23, 2020 Lenton Lenton South Jn - note the Warflats Shireoaks Colwick 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Metr0Land said: Colwick I have not seen the cabriolet version of the V2 before, I wonder if Bachmann are going to model it. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 That's one TW built from a resin kit - he couldn't get it to solder very well. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrg1 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 On 23/06/2020 at 22:10, Metr0Land said: Lenton Lenton South Jn - note the Warflats Shireoaks Colwick Any information on the V2? It looks as though the boiler is on a wagon-possibly going for scrap. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 3 hours ago, jrg1 said: Any information on the V2? It looks as though the boiler is on a wagon-possibly going for scrap. Hi jrg1, It has likely had its cab removed for maintenance work to the back head to be performed. The likely works would be changing out broken stays or caulking up of leaky rivets or laps of the outer shell which cannot be accessed with the cab in place. Gibbo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlebox Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Loch Tay....a damp day and you can just feel the midgies 16 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Axlebox said: Loch Tay....a damp day and you can just feel the midgies Remarkable how modern the photo looks (just checked on Flickr and was astounded to see it dated 1962). I thought it must be on a preserved line somewhere, but, no, it's just really good quality colour. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlebox Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 B91816 and 2 old friends at Granton Docks 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted June 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2020 Now that's exactly the look I want on my XPOs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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