Michael Delamar Posted June 10, 2012 Author Share Posted June 10, 2012 some 16tonners sit in the grid iron sidings at Edge hill Liverpool. while a black 5 hauling a Liverpool 502 takes the Bootle branch at Olive mount jnc. Olive mount junction 1960s by Michaeldelz, on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted June 10, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10, 2012 Been playing around with the wagons from the Bachmann 37-235 'Set of Mineral Wagons BR Grey (Weathered); sorted out the brake gear inconsistencies and added door outlines to the interiors. Have weathered the interiors and undeframes but not done anything to the outsides of the bodies as yet. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted June 10, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2012 16 tonners being marshalled in the Exchange Siding at Engine Wood on Friday 4th March 1966, the final day of steam haulage of colliery traffic from the Somerset coalfields: 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 French Connection ... This one is at Mangaps. Jon 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 10, 2012 Author Share Posted June 10, 2012 Tarpaulined at Horwich works 1982 Copyright Martin Addison and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons Licence. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 and the NRM example at Shildon J 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave777 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I was just thinking the other day that for a thread subtitled 'How realistic are yours' we'd gone a bit too over to prototype pics and not enough of the models, so it's good to see a bit of balance returning. No problem with what Michael is doing here I should say - it's creating a fantastic resource and it's stimulated some interesting conversations along the way. I've got a new batch of N gauge examples to post up sometime, once I get the layout out for posing them. That tarpaulined one is interesting, not only as a reference picture for how they were secured, but also the way the sleepers are devoid of ballast, ash or anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 10, 2012 Author Share Posted June 10, 2012 13CT10-24a by Vernon Sidlow, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 French version at Wellington in 1964. http://www.flickr.com/photos/david_christie/5692948774/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 11, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 11, 2012 French version at Wellington in 1964. http://www.flickr.co...tie/5692948774/ Another one loaded with loco coal (or ash?) so a clear message there I think. I wonder what the branding said? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I wonder what the branding said? NOT TO BE USED FOR P WAY BALLAST OR OTHER ENGINEERS' MATERIALS (or something very much like that) - applied to these and SR 8-plank opens after the sideways opening doors had resulted in one or more incidents. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) Highest 16 tonners in England? Not the best quality video about but interesting all the same. The 16 tonners probably being used to transport Dursand from Parkhead quarries. Interesting bit at approx 10 mins were a sheepgate bars the way of the Q6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja7qFqcrUao&feature=channel&list=UL And nothing to do with 16 tonners but interesting shunting methods with 13 ton hoppers at 9' 11" on this video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-8pHV2uauI&feature=BFa&list=ULu-8pHV2uauI Porcy Edited June 11, 2012 by Porcy Mane 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 43464crewe by amellor10, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) I've always enjoyed this thread. I am especially grateful for the internal shots (esp. "The Ladykillers" ones). Would you mind if I shared this with you? It's a work in progress - recent progress: full ahead slow. Basically, it's a good old 108. A Bachmann body on Bill Bedford underpinnings, with Ultrascale P4 feet and MJT axleboxes and springs. All joints are soldered - except the MJT buffer housings which are glued. I was mightily impressed with Bill's design for the chassis: any failures evident (and I can see several now!) are a consequence of poor eyesight, a natural tendency to shaking while concentrating (I must remember to breathe when I do this) and a passing avian agressor that managed to make its leavings look similar to solder. The brake levers took some tweaking; having measured, compared and stuffed up a couple, I did it by eye in the end. You could say that the wheels be holed, but the levers bespoke . You can see that I've started - thanks to the afore-mentioned filmic reference and the wonderful http://paulbartlett....o.com/brmineral pages - to represent the doors on the insides of the Bachmann body, too. By the way, I can heartily recommend the Print facility. Anyway, I thought I'd put it here. I hope it's OK. Edited June 12, 2012 by Jan 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard of the Moor Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) http://www.flickr.com/photos/46793466@N06/4346753052/ Why is 25108 always so camera shy? Edited June 12, 2012 by Wizard of the Moor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard of the Moor Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Apologies for being 8.5 tons over the limit again, but I couldn't resist this shot whilst making a rare visit to the club this evening No doubt the younger Mr Grice will be thinking dark thoughts about the silly b****r who neglected to check for bottom doors on this delivery. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Wow Jamie that was quick. But also quite an advert for the quality of the camera in your phone! Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 Anyway, I thought I'd put it here. I hope it's OK. of course it is, thats what the thread is about, the prototype shots for inspiration and interest, the model shots for the same, they both go hand in hand. great work on the chassis, be nice to see more shots. Apologies for being 8.5 tons over the limit again, the larger cousins are welcome too superb work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 Tasker Street Sidings, Walsall, 1980 by Tutenkhamun Sleeping, on Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted June 13, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2012 Apologies for being 8.5 tons over the limit again, but I couldn't resist this shot whilst making a rare visit to the club this evening No doubt the younger Mr Grice will be thinking dark thoughts about the silly b****r who neglected to check for bottom doors on this delivery. WOW! In this heavily intensive prototype thread, (with my mouse wheel scroll stopping half way down your photo), I just studied the photo and really liked it. After scrolling down further I was stunned! Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 ... I was mightily impressed with Bill's design for the chassis: any failures evident (and I can see several now!) are a consequence of poor eyesight, a natural tendency to shaking while concentrating (I must remember to breathe when I do this) and a passing avian agressor that managed to make its leavings look similar to solder. The brake levers took some tweaking; having measured, compared and stuffed up a couple, I did it by eye in the end. You could say that the wheels be holed, but the levers bespoke . Jan, it's lovely work and I hate to mention this but those pushrods are arranged the wrong way - they should slope downwards from right to left on that side of the wagon (assuming it's Morton braked, which the presence of the clutch would suggest). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Jan, it's lovely work and I hate to mention this but those pushrods are arranged the wrong way - they should slope downwards from right to left on that side of the wagon (assuming it's Morton braked, which the presence of the clutch would suggest). Hi Pennine MC, Gaaaaah! I knew it didn't look right.... Schoolboy Error #1 - Achieved Ho hum.... it will be shopped in due course.... I'll leave the photo here just to warn people. Thanks for your kind words (if not your eagle eyes! ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard of the Moor Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Gaaaaah! I knew it didn't look right.... Schoolboy Error #1 - Achieved I wouldn't take it too hard, Jan. If your kit is the same as mine, then the brake blocks and pushrods have a plain side and a detailed side. When you, naturally, fit them with the detail showing, they are the wrong way round. Somewhere I have a similar wagon and need to find the courage to unsolder it one day. It's more of a design flaw in the etching, IMHO, but it does show that you can't trust anything when building a kit. Ho hum. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I wouldn't take it too hard, Jan. If your kit is the same as mine, then the brake blocks and pushrods have a plain side and a detailed side. When you, naturally, fit them with the detail showing, they are the wrong way round. Somewhere I have a similar wagon and need to find the courage to unsolder it one day. It's more of a design flaw in the etching, IMHO, but it does show that you can't trust anything when building a kit. Ho hum. Ah... Grazie mille, James Good to hear that better men than I have been bamboozled by the lack of instructions*. *To anyone out the reading this, I still consider it to be a good kit. Sure; any faux-pas (be it plain or compounded) is a hassle. But hassle with little bits of brass is welcome when compared with the fine powder of my self that remains after the daily grind. And the other benefit of this is that you get knowledge, and gain encouragement, from your fellow hobbyists. To Infinity and Beyond! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 14, 2012 Author Share Posted June 14, 2012 75048 Carnforth 2/8/1968 by Glevumblues, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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