Southernman46 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 The brake van is interesting. Its cleanliness is most likely due to extensive repairs to the cabin. Enlarging the picture shows it seems to be a "CAP" vac-piped b/van with r/b's and the side would appear to be plywood - I know certain b/vans were so fitted. Great pictures - what we have lost since those days - it'll be a buddliea infested wasteland with one track running through it today (if it's even still a railway). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted October 6, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 6, 2012 Wonder how it rusted like that! Now if you modelled that, no doubt someone would say "Vertical, it must be vertical!" Anyone any ideas? Due to the steel plates not being kept in ideal conditions, this effect can happen when storage has been vertical, (say up against a wall), and rainwater has run down them and created initial rusting, and the plates have been welded on horizontally. Also, if the plate was at the bottom of a pile and other plates have been dragged across it when removed. Remember that rust proofing was minimal, a quick wire brush and a coat of wagon colour, job done. Mike. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 45392_Rugby_17-8-63 by robertcwp, on Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 The Chalk Tipplers/ Iron Ore Tipplers would have been going to the cement works on the Rugby- Leamington Spa line (Southam?)- they came up loaded from Tring, I believe. A change to see something not weathered in shades of brown and black. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 The Chalk Tipplers/ Iron Ore Tipplers would have been going to the cement works on the Rugby- Leamington Spa line (Southam?)- they came up loaded from Tring, I believe. A change to see something not weathered in shades of brown and black. That would probably have been from the quarries between Tring and Cheddington at Pitstone. The quarries were rail connected and some track remained until fairly recently but no longer connected to the WCML. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 http://flic.kr/p/cTjEcq Porcy Nice, and interesting to see a "SNCF Mineral" in traffic - it appears to have the usual branding that it is not to be used for PW material. Paul Bartlett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Not a bad resource... http://www.southernrailway.net/search/display_pic.php?search_fd0=33258 Porcy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 prototypical working for those short of space.. Fazakerley by Kerry Parker (KP), on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 47497 by Tutenkhamun Sleeping, on Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Stoke Junction 1965 by bescotbeast, on Flickr 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Stoke Junction 1965 by bescotbeast, on Flickr Once again unusual to see three ex PO wooden minerals at this late date. The unfitted open merchandise in coal traffic is not so unusual at this stage, I remember quite a number being used in this way on the SR in the earlier 1960s - I think this was 'specially so in the bad winer of 62-63 when mineral wagons were in short supply. Paul Bartlett 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted October 17, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2012 One of dad's photos. Askern down goods Class 31 D5576 Aug 67 J1094 16T minerals David 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted October 18, 2012 Author Share Posted October 18, 2012 MXV B566174, and Pooley Van DW150236, Lawrence Hill. by Bristol RE, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted October 20, 2012 Author Share Posted October 20, 2012 Tunnel Cement, West Thurrock, about 1965 by Tom Burnham, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) One for those that worry about getting their box vans the correct shade of "Bauxite". c.08/1962 - Levisham, North Yorkshire. by 53A Models, on Flickr Porcy Edited December 15, 2012 by Andy Y Image removed due to copyright dispute. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40044 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 prototypical working for those short of space.. Fazakerley by Kerry Parker (KP), on Flickr Trip from Fazakerley Sidings to Rifkins scrap yard at Kirkdale. This is the traffic that was the subject of some debate earlier in the thread (the 40 at Sefton Jct) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 Huddersfield:Newtown Branch.1963. by jb303, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Huddersfield:Newtown Branch.1963. by jb303, on Flickr Nice- is the third wagon from the brake one of the early Butterley 13t steel minerals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Nice- is the third wagon from the brake one of the early Butterley 13t steel minerals? Although it is not a very clear scan - no larger on Flickr - it does look likely. The top edge appears to have the later rebuilding http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/steelmineral/e1de6519c Paul Bartlett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave777 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Another hoary old modelling cliché there - figure looking out from rear veranda of Airfix brakevan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 just looking at the lamps on the brakevan and also the steam and wonder if that train is being propelled? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Another hoary old modelling cliché there - figure looking out from rear veranda of Airfix brakevan. Ah but, it's not just any old brake van, it's a brake van with the second type of Dowty hydraulic buffers, screw couplings and the joggled handrails on the end platform. Am I in danger of becoming a buffer bore???? Dave Franks. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Another hoary old modelling cliché there - figure looking out from rear veranda of Airfix brakevan. I bet there is a bus on the bridge as well, but the smoke obscures it. Stewart 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted October 24, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2012 Ah but, it's not just any old brake van, it's a brake van with the second type of Dowty hydraulic buffers, screw couplings and the joggled handrails on the end platform. Am I in danger of becoming a buffer bore???? Dave Franks. Never! Mike. (BTW I think the handrail has been trampled on, the other one is straight. Am I becoming etc etc.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) Never! Mike. (BTW I think the handrail has been trampled on, the other one is straight. Am I becoming etc etc.) Ah ha, got you, no the handrails on this lot were joggled out to lye on the outside of the upright , later lots were fixed onto the 'front and centre' of the upright as per the usual. 'Porcy Main' could maybe re-post his photo of one. Dave Franks Edited October 24, 2012 by davefrk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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