Michael Delamar Posted June 14, 2012 Author Share Posted June 14, 2012 9F 92248 Bristol Barrow Road 4 April 1964 by pondhopper1, on Flickr 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 14, 2012 Author Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) not sure if this has been posted already, worth another look even if it has, good for the load detail. Newcastle by cabsaab900, on Flickr Edited June 14, 2012 by michael delamar 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Two different sorts of scrap there- the first wagon is full of what look like turnings from a machine shop, whilst the other has baled steel- note how low the load sits in that wagon. A 16-tonner would have about 25 or more tonnes on if the baled scrap was to the top of the sides- I found this out the hard way, when going through hundreds of weighbridge tickets whilst working for British Steel. The load has probably come from Sheppard's yard on the boundary of Byker and Walker- this was still sending out scrap in the 1980s. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I wouldn't take it too hard, Jan. If your kit is the same as mine, then the brake blocks and pushrods have a plain side and a detailed side. When you, naturally, fit them with the detail showing, they are the wrong way round. It's more of a design flaw in the etching, IMHO, but it does show that you can't trust anything when building a kit. Ho hum. There are also a few plastic kits designed that way. There have also been articles in the model mags showing the same error. To repeat the old advice. Always check against a reliable drawing and/or photo. The brass version does look rather nice. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 To repeat the old advice. Always check against a reliable drawing and/or photo. and I'd be careful of the drawings as well, the Parkside Clam/Rudd instructions are wrong as well! Jon 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Always check against a reliable drawing and/or photo. Hi Bernard, Yes.... I've learned my lesson. Still learning at the ripe old age of 53... Not sure what's dropped out of my head to accommodate this fact though: I hope it's nothing important I may build another one. Anybody interested in a "blow by blow" account? I may be able to start it after next Wednesday. Cheers Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucky Duck Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I may build another one. Anybody interested in a "blow by blow" account? I may be able to start it after next Wednesday. Cheers Jan Most definitely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) tarpaulined. http://www.flickr.co...157626170100071 dont often see this modelled With crated loads. from 53A Models' photostream And the three 16T's have their brakes on. I think the far vans and the sheeted wagon may, but the nearest vans don't. I'm not sure what the high-arced roof van in the consist behind the loco is.... anyone? Most definitely Righty-ho. Thanks for the interest. I'll try to get something over in 'Kitbuilding and Scratchbuilding'. And make sure I get the brakes right Cheers Edited June 16, 2012 by Jan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 16, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 16, 2012 I'm now scanning my way through my past life pile of slides (or some of them) and while I still have a lot to do and am also still thinking about the best approach to presentation etc - as they will illustrate various facets of the working railway as well as just being pics - here's a taster from 1973 which happens to fit in here I think. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I'm now scanning my way through my past life pile of slides (or some of them) and while I still have a lot to do and am also still thinking about the best approach to presentation etc - as they will illustrate various facets of the working railway as well as just being pics - here's a taster from 1973 which happens to fit in here I think. Where was that taken, Mike? Not one, but two, ex-LNER 21t Loco Coal wagons still in use.. Regarding the photo from London Docks- I think that high-roofed van may be a ferry van from Sweden. I've seen side doors of that pattern somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 16, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 16, 2012 Where was that taken, Mike? Not one, but two, ex-LNER 21t Loco Coal wagons still in use.. It's Radyr - one of several dozen that I have scanned today (not all are of wagons and not all are of derailments and collisions - but some are). A more complete background story will be found here, along with some older example pics containing the occasional wagon or two (such as wooden bodied coke wagons lurking in the background of one pic) http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/57713-a-fist-full-of-permits-or-ive-now-got-a-scanner/page__fromsearch__1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 weathering inspiration from the British transport films.. This may have been covered before, but why is that dude chasing the train with a baseball bat? -Hawk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted June 17, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 17, 2012 It would be a brake stick, to apply extra leverage to the brake lever when applying the brake on a moving wagon. The dude is a shunter. Pete 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Where was that taken, Mike? Not one, but two, ex-LNER 21t Loco Coal wagons still in use.. Regarding the photo from London Docks- I think that high-roofed van may be a ferry van from Sweden. I've seen side doors of that pattern somewhere. I intended posting this yesterday but was interrupted. The Vauxhall crates are an interesting load for a mineral wagon. I think the high arc roof van is an LMS CCT http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsparcels/e1948338f I agree about the LNER Loco coal wagons, but South Wales does seem to have a number of earlier steel wagons, Dave Larkin caught a few there, as I did for example http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lnermineral/h1b0896be#h1b0896be and http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lnermineral/e1d1141e3 Paul Bartlett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I intended posting this yesterday but was interrupted. The Vauxhall crates are an interesting load for a mineral wagon. I think the high arc roof van is an LMS CCT http://PaulBartlett....rcels/e1948338f I agree about the LNER Loco coal wagons, but South Wales does seem to have a number of earlier steel wagons, Dave Larkin caught a few there, as I did for example http://paulbartlett....896be#h1b0896be and http://PaulBartlett....neral/e1d1141e3 Paul Bartlett A second glance suggests you're probably correct about the CCT, Paul. The flows to Carmarthen Bay Power Station usually include a few 21t oddities (ex-PO; GWR, LMS and LNER Loco-Coal) into the early 1970s- I imagine they had to be careful to avoid them going into the 'shipping coal' flows because of the lack of end doors. ('Is the door at your end, Idwal?' 'No it isn't, Idris' ' ######- pass me a shovel...') Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave777 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 The carriage behind looks interesting - writing on the side and are those whited out windows or just the way the light is catching them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 17, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2012 The carriage behind looks interesting - writing on the side and are those whited out windows or just the way the light is catching them? The windows are merely reflecting the sun (and I have 'lightened' the pic a bit to show more of the wagon detail below solebar level) and they are part of the Canton breakdown train which by then employed wholly refitted Mk1 coaches for both riding and tool vans. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted June 17, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 17, 2012 I intended posting this yesterday but was interrupted. The Vauxhall crates are an interesting load for a mineral wagon. I think the high arc roof van is an LMS CCT http://PaulBartlett....rcels/e1948338f I agree about the LNER Loco coal wagons, but South Wales does seem to have a number of earlier steel wagons, Dave Larkin caught a few there, as I did for example http://paulbartlett....896be#h1b0896be and http://PaulBartlett....neral/e1d1141e3 Paul Bartlett The crates in the mineral wagons look very much like the Vauxhall traffic that was loaded into mineral wagons in the sidings north of Oakleigh Park station at that time - they appear for example in several pictures in 'The Steaming Sixties No.2 Steam in the Suburbs'. Interesting brake van behind the diesel shunter in that shot - appears to be a short LNER (or NER) van in PLA use, with modified stepboards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 not very often seen at Liverpool lime street... http://www.flickr.com/photos/dmc1947/5809752273/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 22, 2012 Author Share Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) some 16tonners in this train, all fitted with 3 links. Edited June 22, 2012 by michael delamar 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 not very often seen at Liverpool lime street... http://www.flickr.co...947/5809752273/ On spoil duty, I reckon, in conjunction with the engineering train partially visible to the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share Posted June 23, 2012 SUB? Birkenhead Mollington Street by Kerry Parker (KP), on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share Posted June 23, 2012 WB2758 Pontardulais Colliery 5/7/1968 by Glevumblues, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 WB2758 Pontardulais Colliery 5/7/1968 by Glevumblues, on Flickr Despite the lettering on the wagon, it would have almost certainly have been destined for Carmarthen Bay power station; the workings from Graig Merthyr and Brynlliw would generally be formed with a mixture of 24.5t types (with all sorts of painted routeing instructions, along with some marked 'no doors') and ex-Loco Coal 21tonners. These types were used as they weren't any use for the export traffic via Swansea Docks, which couldn't handle anything bigger than 21 tonners with end doors. The location of the painted instruction is a little unusual; these were normally on the panel between the side doors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 (edited) Yet another that I don't thinks has made an appearance until now... by , on Flickr Class 20 no 8124 at Ayr Harbour Oct 1972 by A. Wilson by agcthoms, on Flickr Porcy Edited June 23, 2012 by Porcy Mane 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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