Michael Delamar Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 Manton Oakham Rutland October 1985 by loose_grip_99, on Flickr 40.086 Chester-le-street 15th June 81 by 54A South dock, on Flickr 1055 at Norwood jcn on the 09.55 (as l remember) Acton-Norwood jcn.17th July 74. by 54A South dock, on Flickr 16 Ton Coal Wagon: B567572 Shildon by emdjt42, on Flickr 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 28/08/1965 - Leuchars Junction, Fife, Scotland. by 53A Models, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 16 Ton Coal Wagon: B567572 Shildon by emdjt42, on Flickr Given the acknowledged minefield of batch numbers etc, I'm still going with Larkin, Volume 2. That has this as one of the batch built by Pressed Steel between January and July 1956 to Lot 2920. I'm after building one of these because - like this one - some of the Pressed Steel wagons had the reinforcing rib on the brake lever. Perhaps Paul Bartlett could advise of this ribbing was exclusive to Pressed Steel. It sounds like it should be bespoke to them.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 this is a good shot, loco being coaled from a 16tonner. http://www.flickr.com/photos/12a_kingmoor_klickr/5783198745/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 does anyone know what SUB means? on the side of the Birkenhead and Leuchars jnc wagons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyWales Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) Hi all... This one has been posted previously on the Maenol Mine thread... Yours truly on a site visit. Randall Edited June 25, 2012 by RandyWales 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 I'm after building one of these because - like this one - some of the Pressed Steel wagons had the reinforcing rib on the brake lever. Perhaps Paul Bartlett could advise of this ribbing was exclusive to Pressed Steel. It sounds like it should be bespoke to them.... Lifes too short to worry about such things. Please, just simply reproduce what you see, there are thousands of photos to work from. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Lifes too short to worry about such things. Please, just simply reproduce what you see, there are thousands of photos to work from. Yes. There are. And thanks to your site and the excellent print service, I have a few in my collection, and so I'm not worried. I was just looking for feedback... ho hum... Thanks to Pennine MC for the PM! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share Posted June 28, 2012 another SUB.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiptree-jon/6331392665/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37255 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) http://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/5742319900/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Edited June 29, 2012 by 37255 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 (edited) Edited June 30, 2012 by michael delamar 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 (edited) and leading on from post 650... Double stripe on 16 tonner next to engine... must have sneaked past the painting inspector. http://flic.kr/p/9KqSgQ Just noticed a closer view... http://flic.kr/p/9KqRvq Porcy Edited June 30, 2012 by Porcy Mane 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Double stripe on 16 tonner next to engine... must have sneaked past the painting inspector. Porcy In the bad old days, prior to threads like this one, you used to see models with the stripe going to the top corner rather than to the top of the door panel. I would speculate that they applied the original stripe incorrectly and added the correct one when it was noticed. Would make a good model. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I would speculate that they applied the original stripe incorrectly and added the correct one when it was noticed. I think it was discussed earler in the thread following some pics with the stripe applied right up into the corner. Your right about it being eminently "modelable". (I think we've just inveted a new word there). Just to hear some one say , "Tut, tut" never would have happened! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 http://flic.kr/p/b7XEFr Southbound Dolomite. Probably coming off the Cox Green branch and from Ford Quarry, Sunderland. 64833 was allocated to Sunderland shed in 1961 and you wouldn't get much southbound limestone/dolomite coming over Bob Jones viaduct in the background. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/image/37395-coronation-approaching-victoria-viaduct/ Porcy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Looks like this one may have been painted grey inside. And the painter forgot to put the stripe on! http://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/6642335785/sizes/l/in/set-72157626833099250/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishswissernie Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 . And the painter forgot to put the stripe on! http://www.flickr.co...57626833099250/ I have had a look at the original and there is a much faded stripe just visible. Ernie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I have had a look at the original and there is a much faded stripe just visible. Hi Ernie, Now you mention it, and I've put my glasses on, I think I can see the stripe. There Is also a rather cryptic link to a very large railway photographic archive (Non Digital) in that pic... Fantastic pics of the freshly red leaded water cranes and assosiated water tanks in the same set. Porcy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 25156 heads through Wath Yard in April 1978 by Awwalker1, on Flickr 16T Minerals (MXV) B566699, and (MCV) B565673, Lawrence Hill. by Bristol RE, on Flickr National Coal Board diesel carries empty trucks away from Penkridge exchange junction towards Coal pit by hermeticdream, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Someone got the lettering wrong on the Lawrence Hill examples, I think. 'MCV' covered those 16-tonners vac-fitted from new, with 8-shoe clasp brake-gear; those vehicles with 4-shoe Morton gear, converted from unfitted examples, were 'MXV'. The different code was to identify vehicles which were incompatible with unloading equipment at some locations (Goole Docks?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Lot of interest in this phot. http://www.phantasrail.co.uk/RGSteam/Phantasrail%20RG2046u.jpg Porcy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Someone got the lettering wrong on the Lawrence Hill examples, I think. 'MCV' covered those 16-tonners vac-fitted from new, with 8-shoe clasp brake-gear; those vehicles with 4-shoe Morton gear, converted from unfitted examples, were 'MXV'. The different code was to identify vehicles which were incompatible with unloading equipment at some locations (Goole Docks?) But not originally when they were all to be coded MCV.I don't know when MXV was introduced - no mention of it in the 5th edition TOPS coding book of October 1978. The earliest I appear to have photographed were in early 1982. Paul Bartlett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 But not originally when they were all to be coded MCV.I don't know when MXV was introduced - no mention of it in the 5th edition TOPS coding book of October 1978. The earliest I appear to have photographed were in early 1982. Paul Bartlett I think I saw the first examples in 1981; the two wagons in the photo seem to have had alterations made to the centre letter of the painted code. BTW, am I correct in thinking the two wagons shown have the bodies orientated in opposite directions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 A nice variety of finish on the line of minerals in the background of this photo http://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-railways/Latest-uploads-and-queries/Recent-uploads/23493000_vbhZzK#!i=1939311657&k=3jdKSXk&lb=1&s=L Paul Bartlett 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 Seaport city Liverpool by Martin Jenkins and Neil Cossons has an excellent series of shots of mineral wagons being unloaded at the high level coal railway Liverpool, the wagons and track base where lifted and tipped direct into ships holds by hydraulic cranes. coal was destined for Ireland. a great book highly recommended. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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